yes read my response tp your other thread

 

sweet! thanks for the support.

I will start looking into it. its JUST another project, right?

 

V10FUN has done it in a home shop...given the tools and time and a bit of mechanical knowledge it can be done.

The decision to make is: is your time and the shop space and any tool rental you might need to deal with worth the $3K the dealer charges for the drop & replace. Only the individual doing the project can answer that.

 

Nick
The time and equipment is one thing correct, but when you have no warranty with a V10 remember all the horror stories of incompetent dealers /mechanics out there.
I like to think piece of mind, when the time is taken to ensure every thing is done as absolutly correctly as possible, and not like a shop being Hrs worked driven.
Generally i believe if i do something no one who works on mine is as careful as i am or cares as muck as i do.

regards
Dragline

 

Agree...personally I never had any issues when my dealer did drop/replacements, but YMMV on this one!

 

Haywood
I dont think the V10 turbos are liquid cooled either.

 

I'm not sure how you would drop the engine without lifting the body clear - that goes beyond a jack and wooden supports. I've got ramps but even they don't go high enough to clear the engine once it's on the floor dolly.

siberian

 

I'm not sure how you would drop the engine without lifting the body clear - that goes beyond a jack and wooden supports. I've got ramps but even they don't go high enough to clear the engine once it's on the floor dolly.

siberian

I am GUESSing best approach would be to support engine/trans/front suspention, disconnect all the attachements to body, then use the lift to hoist the body..the trans/engine/front suspension come out as a unit..

 

I understand that, but does anyone have a lift hoist at home??????????

siberian

 

I understand that, but does anyone have a lift hoist at home??????????

siberian

I just purchased a second hand 3t unit i intend to install beside my house.
I have also read other that have units at home

regards

 

I got 3 acres, but beside my house 9 months of the year is, shall we say, nippy? I have an 1,200 sqft garage but I don't have the height... So I guess I'll have to drive down to Maitland? Hmmm, need to update my Garmin

siberian

 

I got 3 acres, but beside my house 9 months of the year is, shall we say, nippy? I have an 1,200 sqft garage but I don't have the height... So I guess I'll have to drive down to Maitland? Hmmm, need to update my Garmin

siberian

Hey you just head south and you will find us.

 

Best way to do it would probably be like the dealer does it. Put the car on a lift and drop the engine/transmission/front suspension on a hydraulic table (like a motorcycle shop would have). I doubt you will be able to lift the car high enough to get the engine assembly out from underneath the car without using a proper lift.

 

I've got an excavator. If I can figure out where to attach the lift straps on the four corners I can lift it! Needs to be outdoors of course (and NOT in Alaska!)Dead Horse

 

Sounds reasonable... you past Avoca Beach into Syndey?

siberian

 

Sounds reasonable... you past Avoca Beach into Syndey?

siberian

Hey
Avoca beach is a very nice place.
We are about 120km north of there in the wine country of the hunter valley.
regards

 

Krak, I'm on my way, if not I would have had to drive all the way Down Under

siberian

 

Depending on the turbo failure, there is a much cheaper and simpler way to fix it than dropping the whole engine.

There appears to be an issue with a metal pin attaching a rod is controlling the waste gate. That same pin corrodes over time and the waste gate gets stuck throwing an error code and shutting both turbos down. The solution is a new pin which is galvanized to prevent corrosion.

I had my turbos fail before I knew about this (see http://www.clubtouareg.com/forums/f62/touareg-v10-engine-fault-code-26294.html#post168624 with the error codes I was getting). Fortunately, I had both of them replaced under warranty. I've had 2 more forum members reach out to me with the same issue - one ended up replacing the turbos under warranty like me (again before we knew about the pin problem). The other member had only the pin replaced without dropping the engine.

If by "turbos are actually failing this often" you are referring to this problem you are better off paying the dealer for couple of hours labor to replace the pin (the part is less than a $1).

 

thanks V10...

I inquired about the pin on my other thread.

(well the one that i hijacked. heehee .... Oops!)

 

It's not to big a deal to pull the engine at home, I am pulling mine for the second time right now. This time its getting new turbos last time was cam and lifters. Not bad for a Touareg with 301,000 miles on it

 

do share. what is your trick? you must have a lift at least.

 

Biggest mileage I've seen, especially on a V10. Nice one.

 

Look at Nciscott's images - image 6 looks like a photo from his last engine drop

 

yep exactly what i plan. I even bought a really nice scissor lift just like that one for 150 bucks .... soon it will be time to start pricing a lift.

great news! glad to hear someone is all over that. Ill be hitting you up for any tricks you run across.

 

Nciscott, i was wondering what special tools you had to purchase in order to yank that V10 at home?

Its official I am going to have to bite the bullet and change both actuators. I have to restart the car all the time and clear the DTCs all the time now in order to drive the car.

I may have access to a friends' lift and I bought a nice scissor lift that I will fab up a Jig to connect to the V10.

looking to do this early summer time. what tricks did you learn along the way if you dont mind me asking?

thanks in advance.
JP

 

can the engine not be pulled upwards?

with ingenuity and some thinking most things can be done in a moderate workshop.

I replaced a Landini tractor clutch on my own with just a couple jacks, couple jack stands and a block and tackle on a tripod.

Also did the same with a mazda engine transplant

 

not the V10. at least I would not attempt it.
engine, trans, front suspension, everything was designed to be dropped out from underneath. Im halfway there with the scissor lift, just need a good post lift and a week or so to really pay attention to detail.

cool tractor btw!!

 

Definitely drop.

 

Chapter 2... almost a year later.

I will be posting weekly again I hope and have taken many pictures along the way.
Aside from the two post lift, I used basic hand tools and patience. It came out beautifully without a hitch and now I can get to all those trouble spots.

 

Chapter 2... almost a year later.

I will be posting weekly again I hope and have taken many pictures along the way.
Aside from the two post lift, I used basic hand tools and patience. It came out beautifully without a hitch and now I can get to all those trouble spots.

Where did you get the scissor table for $150? Can the jack handle all that load? One dealer told me the table VW uses for engine drops costs a crazy amount of money, like $10K or something. Great to know this is doable and may change my mind about keeping my V10 past my extended warranty. Thanks

 

killer.

 

In addition to replacing turbos, I plan to replace both oxygen sensors, vacuum pump and starter. I also plan to install thermocouples in the turbos.

Any other suggestions from folks driving 100,000 plus as to what else would be "nice" to replace at this time would be appreciated.