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will cayenne seats work in our touaregs?

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#1 ·
I have to say I love almost everything about our vehicle except our seats suck. I am used to recaros and seats that hug you. I am thinking of either importing r50/w12 seats or getting cayenne gts seats to give me more of the sport seat feel. I have located a few r50 seats but shipping is just as much as the seats so since I can find cayenne gts seats here it would be cheaper. I'm pretty sure they would bolt up but would all the wiring be the same and would I get a code for the seat airbags?
 
#2 ·
Cayenne seats aren't really any better and in some ways certain years headrest are worse/annoying. I've spent a lot of time in both and they have identical adjustments and essentially the same bolstering and shape - close enough I wouldn't put my money in that direction if there is another avenue.

Audi is close to VW in some parts and what about the Phaeton, maybe those would work. Source some of the newer Audi Q7 ventilated seats, they were pretty comfortable but not much out there compares to the "20 way comfort" seats in BMW. I'd even look into that idea.
 
#3 ·
I'm with that idea, these seats don't do the egg justice. Subscribed
 
#4 ·
I wasn't talking about the regular cayenne/s/Turbo seats. The cayenne gts has a different seat in it and they are great. They have a lot more bolstering and are really comfortable. So it would be either that seat or the r50/w12 seat I am just concerned the cayenne seat wouldn't work.
 
#25 ·
The seats are determined by the ordered selection, not just the model. I.E., the same seats often appear in a turbo or s model. The gts just already has a certain seat option and it was also available in the other models.

If you are going to search for junked vehicle for seats, this will open up the field because you only need to find the seat because it is not specific to the gts.
 
#6 ·
The GTS seats do fit in all other Cayennes as a lot of people with the Turbo Cayennes remove their seats to put in the GTS seat because it is more sporty, so the GTS seats do fit and interchange with other cayennes, now will they work in the Touareg? I am pretty sure they would bolt up as the cayenne and touareg are basically the same chassis/body
structure, I am wondering if the electronics (connectors) would work, such as a plug and play type of thing, would the srs sensors detect the airbags in the cayenne seats and work since they are similar but the vw runs a different program from the touaregs thus why the Vag com does not work on cayennes.
 
#7 ·
Another way which may suck to do would be to possibly remove the seats and take off just the GTS seat foam and covers and put in onto the touareg seat frame and somehow keep the touareg frame/guts but just put on the cayenne foam and covers?
 
#8 ·
I have been wondering if there are seats that sit lower than stock or if someone has lowered them. Stock puts me in the ceiling. Sorry OP if this is a little OT, but, it is a seat thread.:)
 
#10 ·
Recaros would not have the airbag assemblies on them and no power/heat function. I am a Technician for Honda and I've done lots of swapping of parts from here to there and interior swaps so that part really is not a big deal to me. I can get the R50 seats for around $2500 and I can get the GTS seats for around $1700.
 
#13 ·
Everyone has their own idea of comfort, for instance, my dad loves his cadillacs but to me they are like sitting on a couch and if I wanted that I would stay home and sit on my couch. I bought the touareg because it handles like a car unlike most SUV's out there. I Own a Turbo prelude with stock recaro seats and a Turbo ls Integra and a Integra GSR, all have the JDM Type R recaro seats in them because I want to be held on tight when I am driving and to me that is comfortable. So I want some seats that hug you and hold you in with lots of bolstering such as either the W12 sport/R50 seats or Cayenne GTS seats because both of those have lots of bolstering. That was the one and only factor that almost made me not buy the touareg. It is incredible in everyway other than the seats. Thats just my personal opinion. I work for Honda and have for over 13 years and although they will outlast the touareg with out a doubt they are not as fun to drive and that is why I bought the touareg....Because I am a DRIVER as most of you are here....
 
#14 ·
Concur, the side support when going around corners is lacking as is a wee bit more lumbar support. I do hope the Treg will last longer than the Honda... and it certainly is a lot more fun and utilitarian than any Honda. Just my 2 cents and I don't work for VW :)

siberian
 
#15 ·
Well not to argue but my prelude has over 265K on it, my Turbo LS has 225K and my GSR has 365K on it and they all run like new still and don't burn any oil. I also have seen numerous Honda Pilots and Acura MDX's with 300-465K on them. I work on a guy's Pilot that has 465K on it so I highly doubt the touareg will ever last that long, especially without a lot of work...Honda is not as fun to drive, its not as over engineered nor does it have the fit and finish of the VW autogroup however they do (or did) build vehicles that last almost forever with very minimal failure and they do not cost an arm and a leg to fix like the touareg does. Anyways a little off topic but I have been a journeyman master tech for over 15 years now and I can tell you that the japanese cars will outlast anything out there. German cars can last as long however they are typically 3-4 times as expensive to fix and they need lots more repairs to last as long. That is just what I have seen over the years and I have lots of friends that work at Honda, Acura, VW, and Audi and we all talk about what they all need, what is common issues ect. so I guess to each their own. I don't really care how many problems a car company has or the vehicle has, to me its more about how the car/truck/suv performs that I care about. If I wanted something to last forever and give me very little trouble I would have bought a MDX but I wanted something sporty and fun to drive so I bought the Touareg.
 
#18 ·
Well not to argue but my prelude has over 265K on it, my Turbo LS has 225K and my GSR has 365K on it and they all run like new still and don't burn any oil. I also have seen numerous Honda Pilots and Acura MDX's with 300-465K on them. I work on a guy's Pilot that has 465K on it so I highly doubt the touareg will ever last that long, especially without a lot of work...Honda is not as fun to drive, its not as over engineered nor does it have the fit and finish of the VW autogroup however they do (or did) build vehicles that last almost forever with very minimal failure and they do not cost an arm and a leg to fix like the touareg does..................
My dad was a Mopar man all his life until the very end. Everything from his Dodge Dart engine in the 70's into 80's, to the lowly Dodge spirit 2.5L 4 banger with Torqueflite auto of more modern times, all reached a whopping 500000km using .99 cent a liter mineral oil, so go figure....

My point is, he would mock both you and me(me because I was a hard core BMW guy back then), for not sticking to domestic, more from a perespective of bang for the buck. He had his real life example to prove it, and no one could take that away from him. No one would ever win these arguments either, since we would all have our true stories and testimonies to back us up. ;)

Coming back to topic, I would look into the Individual seats seen on other Touaregs in Germany, or for more ultimate sporty, the W12 seats with Alcantara inserts if the colour matches with your present setup. I also second the Phaeton or Q7 ventilated seats idea.



 
#16 ·
Thanks for your insights, John. I had an Integra GSR for a while, amazing car. Variable valve engine, amazing acceleration and growl, what a blast to shift and handle. In the years since, I feel that the Japanese brands have declined, not so much in quality as in design. The Integra turned heads; for me, no new Asian cars do that any more. Too many silly grill treatments stuck on to essentially boring enclosures. Decent but dull interiors. Adequate but unexciting engines. These factors pushed me to the Volvo and now the VW lines.

Anyway, off topic. Apologies, but I wanted to thank you for your insights as a Honda tech.
 
#17 ·
While we're slightly off topic on reliability/cost of keeping cars running forever...

my mechanic specializes in european imports, specifically BMWs, and one of their loaner cars is a 1990 750il (V12), with 395k on it. Still drives great, powerful, smooth, sounds good, etc. I'm sure you're correct, it must cost a ton to keep running, compared to Japanese cars, but they can be made to run forever, if you have deep pockets.

Also, before the Touareg I had an Acura RSX Type S and had a lot of fun with that car, and my father has an S2000 as a second car, and I have a blast driving that. Tons of fun.
 
#21 ·
Dude, I've been there so many times with the D club. It's the total car that a piece of crap. OK the SRT-8 is a good engine, so are so many others. But what the rest? I fed back with the D Club dozens of add-ons and short comings to DC. Sensors that crapped out time and time again, batteries died so often we started a Lonely Hearts Club for them. Seats that rocked because they were improperly designed. Ball Joints that were criminally designed as sealed for life and failed in under 20k miles. Water pumps that leaked and I could go on and on and on. Most of these "designs" would never have been let near a Treg. DC and the whole of the US car industry lost its way decades ago and with it the loyal fans who (used to) spend every spare dime they had to get their cars to a race track on weekends. I have a good friend who has a JGC and loves it and I'm happy for him. For me, a 57 Chevy, a 71 'Cuda a 68-70 Roadrunner, a 67/8 GTO, a 71 Firebird... those are some of the Mopars and others I'd look into buying. Today, if I'm gonna buy a FIAT/Dodge, I'd rather save for a used Ferrari, same company, different engineers. Like a girlfriend, once it's over, it's over.

siberian
 
#23 ·
they physically fit. figure out the wiring on your own, they may or may not be plug and play. good luck finding a set
 
#24 ·
I have measured the seats on the Cayenne GTS (at least the cushion part) and it looks like we might be able to get by with just getting the seat foam and seat covers from a cayenne gts and use our frame/base, however I do not know that for sure but they measure close (within 3/4 in or so in width) However You would need to find a seat to buy first Or you could buy the foam and covering from the dealer but I believe when I priced that out it was somewhere around $7200 for just those parts...Maybe they can be found cheaper however I don't think that would be the way to go. I am still searching for a junkyard that has one..I am thinking if I can find a set and they are less than $3K Id be doing good..
 
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#28 ·
I'm not sure what all of these seat numbers mean but can anyone get the VW part number for what appears to be Euro R-line seats ?
If you go to VW Vortex & go to;
Galleries Albums > Volkswagen > Touareg > Touareg II > Touareg R-Line (EU) >
The interior shot shows what appears to be the answer....Recaro style bolstered seats.
Anyone up for a group buy?
 
#29 ·
Do they come in the teak brown color then im up for it!