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Its also another reason to always avoid a burnt out engine, the valve could be exposed and unreacted, or reacted slowly yet hot enough to melt the VS oil seals which are generally made out of a flouroelastomer which in the right conditions can produce Hydroflouric Acid which is hard to treat, the odds are slim that it has formed yet there is a possibility non the less. It can be treated with calcium gluoconate gel, or amputation --My advise if its been on fire--its just not worth the chance.
 
Thi is the VCDS reading before I changed the G450 switch:

Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
Control Module Part Number: 7L0 907 401 D HW: 7L0 907 401 D
Component and/or Version: 3.0L V6TDI G000AG 0030
Software Coding: 0011775
Work Shop Code: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 2C5C06EEB051217C
2 Faults Found

009301 - Diesel Particle Filter; Differential Pressure Sensor: Short to Plus
P2455 - 001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

Freeze Frame
Fault Status: 00100001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 2
Mileage: 80518 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.09.02
Time: 14:43:46

Freeze Frame
RPM: 756 /min
Torque: 62.4 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 893.2°C
Temperature: 141.6°C
(no units): 0.0
Absolute Pres.: 81.6 mbar

009263 - Diesel Particulate Filter (Bank 1): Restricted/Clogged
P242F - 001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - MIL ON

Freeze Frame
Fault Status: 11100001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 80518 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.09.02
Time: 14:46:47

Freeze Frame
RPM: 777 /min
(no units): 51.7
(no units): 11.5
(no units): 62.0
Temperature: 165.2°C
Absolute Pres.: 0.0 mbar
Pressure: 0 mbar

Readiness: 0 0 1 0 0

The temp I was referring is highlighted in red
When I select MVB 102.1 (Temperaturate before Catalyst) that's when I read 899ºC.

I have not got another VCDS reading but now I have no faults.
 
The glow plug light was flushing and warning said something along the lines of Diesel Particule Filter.
Well got home and scanned it and found 3 fault codes.
Will see what local dealer has to say tomorrow about this...
How do you Regen with VagCom?

Error Codes.
009263 - Diesel Particulate Filter (Bank 1)
P242F - 001 - Restricted/Clogged - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 62248 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.09.22
Time: 07:29:40
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 861 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
(no units): 42.5
(no units): 23.0
Mileage: 600 km
(no units): 37.6
(no units): 10.0

008194 - Particulate Trap Bank 1
P2002 - 008 - Efficiency Below Threshold - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 62248 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.09.22
Time: 07:29:40
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 861 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Pressure: 106 mbar
Temperature: 27.0°C
Temperature: 224.2°C
(no units): 37.6
Voltage: 14.52 V

001137 - Exhaust Pressure Sensor 1 (G450)
P0471 - 001 - Implausible Signal - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 62248 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2012.09.22
Time: 07:29:45
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Pressure: 88 mbar
Temperature: 35.4°C
Temperature: 224.2°C
(no units): 0.0
 
Problems with DPF filter

Hi Guys

Can someone please explain what to do to regenerate this DPF filter.
Im not very mechanically inclined.
If it needs to be replaced does it have to be a main dealer part.
I drive very little mostly small trips of 2 miles for weeks at a time.
 
Go for a long drive at high speed. This will initiate a regeneration. A lot of short trips at low speed/rpms is not the best for a diesel. At least once a week go for a long drive at high speed. High speed is above 80 km/hr.
 
Hi Guys

Can someone please explain what to do to regenerate this DPF filter.
Im not very mechanically inclined.
If it needs to be replaced does it have to be a main dealer part.
I drive very little mostly small trips of 2 miles for weeks at a time.

get a lend of a VCDS and do a forced regeneration.
This is done in your drive way and takes about 30 mins.
You can actually see the DPF reading dropping via measuring blocks.

regards
Drag
 
problem with DPF 3.0

Hi Guys

Thanks for the quick reply appreciated.
Had the engine lose power on motorway and engine coil warning light come on.
Stopped vehicle, switched off engine then drove Ok after 2 more times.
I dont want that to happen again ever.
 
Ok...kind of a newbie question...do ALL Treg diesels have DPFs? I don't think my 09 TDI does. It was delivered in Oregon in US. Don't have a vagcom, think I'd be dangerous with it. How can you tell if you have a DPF?
Should have a DPF.....get down and look under vehicle. Looks like a catalytic converter. It should be located next to the center transfer case.
 
@johndb

The kind of journey you are making is bad, bad, BAD for any car but especially so by a factor of 10 for a diesel with a DPF. You need to get the car properly warmed up for at least 30 minutes as stated above. If you can't achieve a speed over 50 mph for a decent period of time, use Tiptronic to hold the car in 3rd gear to get the revs and temperature up.

In the meantime, walk those two miles or get on yer bike!!
 
problem with DPF 3.0

Hi

Small journeys are the norm but needed.
The loss of power never happened on these journeys ever only when used on the motorway and when it was well warmed up, so why would it happen then when this is when it should regenerate is it not.
 
Don't worry too much about what happened to you on the motorway, they are designed to go into limp when engine parameters are exceeded.
Listen to Dragline and do a forced regen, you should be able to see on the VCDS the % of restriction of the DPF before and after.......you have nothing to loose and it should fix your issues or take it to the dealer and they will do the same and charge you accordingly.

TonyB
 
Hi
Thanks for the reply.
I do not have access to a VCDS.
Can you explain why it would do this on the motorway when this should be the drive that clears it out or regenerates it.
Not a nice experience at all.
Do I only have to give it a good drive once in a while for this problem to stop or rev it in the driveway for a while.
Makes no sense to me
 
I'll let Dragline chime in and hopefully he may give you a detailed explanation.

TonyB
 
Hi Thanks for the reply. I do not have access to a VCDS. Can you explain why it would do this on the motorway when this should be the drive that clears it out or regenerates it. Not a nice experience at all. Do I only have to give it a good drive once in a while for this problem to stop or rev it in the driveway for a while. Makes no sense to me
It's probably a good idea for any owner of a CR TDI to read up on how a DPF works before purchasing a TDI. I found this online and read it before I bought mine.

VAG DISESEL PARTICULATE FILTERS

Courtesy of David Bodily Volkswagen Technical Support Specialist

Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF)

Detailed below is important information outlining the function and features of the Diesel Particulate filter which all members of your team need to be aware of.

Diesel particulate filters are becoming more commonplace on diesel engines, particularly sizes 2.0L upwards. This is in order to reduce the exhaust emissions as required by European legislation.

The prime reason for a DPF is to reduce particulate matter entering the atmosphere. Particulate matter is found in the form of soot, which is produced during diesel combustion. The DPF traps most of the soot which would normally travel down the exhaust and into the atmosphere. The DPF can hold a certain amount of soot, but not a huge quantity and therefore it needs to go through a process called ‘regeneration’ in order to clear the soot loading. When the soot goes through a ‘regeneration’ process it will be converted to a much smaller amount of ash. The ash is non-removable. There are two types of ‘regeneration’, passive and active.

During long motorway journeys, passive regeneration will occur. This needs no intervention from the engine control unit. Due to the raised exhaust temperatures on a long journey (temperatures between 350 and 500°C), the procedure occurs slowly and continuously across the catalytic-coated (with platinum) DPF. The catalytic-coated DPF is situated close to the Engine, therefore the exhaust gas temperature is high enough (500°C) to ignite the soot particles. Due to this soot is burned-off and is converted into a smaller amount of ash.

Active ‘regeneration’ is when the ECU intervenes when the soot loading in the DPF is calculated to be 45%. The procedure lasts for about 5 – 10 minutes. Specific measures are taken by the ECU to raise the engine exhaust temperature to above 600°C, these include switching off the exhaust gas recirculation and increasing the fuel injection period to include a small injection after the main injection. The soot particles are oxidised at this temperature.

The ECU will trigger a regeneration process, if for some reason this is aborted, ie. customer slows down, stops etc, the process will be resumed when regeneration conditions are once again met, above 60km/h (38mph). This will continue for 15 minutes.

If after 2 attempts of 15 minutes, a successful regeneration has not been possible, the loading will increase. At 50% soot loading, the ECU will continue to maintain maximum exhaust temperatures of 600°C to 650°C to cause a regeneration process. The system will try to run a regeneration process for 15 minutes. If unsuccessful, the system will repeat this process for a further 15 minutes, if still unsuccessful, the DPF light on the driver display panel will then be lit.

The owners handbook states, the DPF symbol lights up to indicate that the diesel particulate filter has become obstructed with soot due to frequent short trips. When the warning lamp comes on, the driver should drive at a constant speed of at least 60 km/h for about 10 minutes. As a result of the increase in temperature the soot in the filter will be burned off. If the DPF symbol does not go out, the driver should contact an authorised Volkswagen repairer and have the fault rectified.

At 55% soot loading the DPF light is lit on driver display panel. At this point the customer should follow the advice in the handbook. If they ignore this information and continue driving the vehicle until the soot loading reaches 75% without successful regeneration, additional warning lamps will light up. At this point the customer will also be complaining of lack of power, etc.

At 75%, regeneration is still possible with the use of the VAS tester. Only when the loading is above 95%, is it necessary to replace the DPF unit.

Operating Status System Response

45% DPF Load Level 1 Normal Regeneration

50% DPF Load Level 2 Regeneration at maximum exhaust temperatures

55% DPF Load DPF lamp Regeneration from 60 km/h onwards ("See operating manual")

75% DPF Load DPF, SYS and MI lamp Torque limitation, EGR deactivation,

Regeneration via VAG tester only 95% DPF Load Replace the DPF Unit
 
Problems with DPF filter

Hi
Thanks for the reply and the information appreciated.
I am learning.
Now I have to ask is do the additives that Wynnes and others sell to clean the DPF which you just add to the tank of Diesel work.

My problem is that I have never had this DPF warning light come on at any stage.
I have had the Touareg lose all power while on a motorway in the overtake lane doing 130km half an hour into a journey, so well warmed up.
The coil engine warning light will come on.
But when the main dealer checked and ran a diagnostic he could find no real issues and changed the fuel filter.
 
If you emission system is working properly, there is no need for additives just take a long drive occasionally for a passive regeneration to occur. If your DPF is clogged beyond 75%, you may need access to VCDS for a forced regeneration. Like Drag said, this takes place in your driveway and takes 20-30 minutes.
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The only other culprit that may cause loss of power a.k.a. limp mode pertaining to the DPF is a faulty DPF differential pressure sensor. When my sensor went bad it put my Treg into limp mode and was intermittent.
 
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