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HID Headlight replacement

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#1 ·
My left headlight bulb (HID) died a few weeks ago and I made the mistake of going to my local VW dealer to have it replaced; $380 later :( I now have a nice new bright white left headlight, and a dim blue right one. I found a source for a replacement for my dim blue one (I think at the right 'temperature') for $160, but am a little chicken about the installation.

Anyone know what all I'll have to remove to gain access to the right HID headlight bulb (to replace it) on a 2005 V8? It looks like I may have to remove the air filter box... correct? Anything else?

Anyone know definatively what 'temperature' the factory headlight bulbs are? 5400K?

Any help is appreciated! :D

Tim
 
#2 ·
You don't remove anything other then the headlight assembly. There is a tool in your spare tire well that allows you to take the assembly out. You need to be really careful though or you can break the screw off the assembly and cost yourself even more money. There is a write up of it somewhere. I will look for it and post the link here for you.

This is not the one I was looking for but is should still help you out. WikiAnswers - How do you replace the headLAMP on a 2004 VW touareg Read through the PDF's and make sure you push in on the assembly as you turn the screw to releave some pressure.
 
#3 ·
Changing D1S HIDs on 2006 V8

Thank you Yeti so much for this post - and the link to the WikiAnswers article. I will add that having the long screwdriver mentioned on the Wiki site isn't necessary: I used my index finger to press on the retaining clip, it's on the housing just a few inches forward of the "close-open" 6mm hex thingy. I'm still amazed at how simple and quick the entire procedure is. What a great design. 15 mins on the first one, 10 mins on the second.

One thing that was tricky was to "Close" once putting the headlight assy back in. Studying the rectangular Stud on the bottom of the HEADLIGHT assy and the RETAINER on the headlight bracket/slide that it interfaces with made it easier to understand the Bentley manual description - and I got the headlight to finally stay in (kept popping out on me for a bit). Just be sure to check that the catch is properly engaged.

Regarding cost and quality: I got my 4300K bulbs on ebay - $35 bucks including shipping from Michigan. I couldn't be happier - with the ease of replacement (15 mins for the first one, under 10 for the second), even if they DON'T last as long, I'll be happy to replace them again - with another set of $35 dollar bulbs.

Again, thank you so much: The whole job was many hundreds less than the dealer quoted.
 
#5 ·
It sucks about the colour difference.

I wonder if it's worth trying to tell the dealership about it and see if they can claim warranty? After all, it IS a safety issue.

Anyways,
My passenger bulb is flickering and they offered to replace it under warranty. I declined until I buy a new bulb for the driver side, and will have them throw it in at the same time.

I contacted Geoff about the bulbs. I'll pick up a pair soon - much cheaper than anywhere else I've seen.
 
#8 ·
I bought some Chinese made 6000k xenon's for my OEM replacements once (in my Jetta), and they burned out within 2 months - and that's only using them at night.
Good thing I was able to return them under warranty and upgrade to the OEM 4300k bulbs. A much better choice.

I was told by the dealer that my left D1S had to be replaced at a cost of $580(AUD) as the left high beam wasnt working.
Shows how completely oblivious some service departments are :rolleyes:
Anybody who know's anything about "Bi-Xenon" lights knows that the light itself is ignited at 100% intensity ALL the time.

Good on you for taking it home and figuring it out yourself ;)
 
#7 ·
I was told by the dealer that my left D1S had to be replaced at a cost of $580(AUD) as the left high beam wasnt working.
I came home and figured if its working with low it should work on high beam as well- a shutter opens up in the lens that throws high beam. Upon removing the headlight i found one of the wires going to the shutter mechanism had broken off from the terminal. Clipped it back and now i have high beam!
Nonetheless, I ebayed D1S and purchased a pair from US at cost of $50! (www.luxebuy.com) specs are the same as the orginal but its made in china. if they are built like the great wall then i'll be okay :) ....Will see....
 
#11 ·
Philips bulbs are in stock and ship immediately, available in 50 states in 2-3 days by Priority Mail. Still $150 per pair.

Any cheap e-bay bulb will disappoint / that's why they're cheap! Many members find this out over and over again. There is no substitute for quality, and opening and closing the headlamp assembly is not without perils of damaging the plastics at a very high price... is it really worth this wear and tear? Better to replace a 4-5 year bulb with another one, and stay hands off!

My two cents,

Geoff
 
#12 ·
if i do blow one of mine then I'll be definitely getting it off you Geoff
 
#14 ·
It seems like it would be the bulb right now, as the electronic starter is a part of this design. Out of range is a different issue, one I also share now on m 04 V6. This is a series of sensors which adjust and direct the self-leveling headlight assembly. I offer the bulbs as mentioned here before and elsewhere on ClubTouareg. Call me about those?

The sensors would be a part to get replaced at the dealer or perhaps you would be able to do it if mechanically inclined. I have an extended warranty, so will go to the dealer to resolve.

Regards,

Geoff
 
#16 ·
A D1S bulb is a D1S bulb... it's the one and only part



The bulb is a lamp and an electronics package as one assembly, with a plug in on the side. It is the correct and only part for the OE HID system in the Touaregs.

Your job is to learn how to get the headlamp assembly out without damage and to replace the bulb assy. without touching the glass : the glass will shatter if your skin oils are on it when it starts up and warms to temp.

Call me if you have questions?

Geoff
 
#18 ·
both of my hid bulbs (2004 t-reg) had been very weak in the last months so I bought some quality 4300K replacement bulbs for $200 the pair. I installed them with out any problems with the directions listed here. then I closed the garage door only to see both new bulbs were just as dim (weak) as the ones that I replaced!!!:(

does anyone think that the bulbs were not the problem? what about the ballast? does anyone have any idea?:confused:

rudy
 
#19 ·
well, more bad news...the new bulbs were just as weak as the old ones as I mentioned above. Now, a day later, both of the bulbs are out. so, I go back and replace these new bulbs with my old ones only to find out that they also don't work now!!!

I can't imagine all four bulbs burning out at the same time. of course, I was very careful not to touch any of the glass area (bulb). I also have the "light" icon on the dash now (display). I checked all the fuses on both sides of the dash and non were blown.

I guess a visit to the dealer with an open wallet is coming Monday. :(
 
#22 ·
Quote "Still not as cheap as buying from QPower, but for those who want something different from Philips, and don't mind dropping the extra coin, here is the place."
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Far from cheap, these "Blue" bulbs could get your car towed or ticketed, or both, depending on jurisdiction, just because they are not legal in the USA. And maybe in Canada too... Remember, the cops are smart enough to know when they see something amiss.

Do any of you really need this kind of aggravation? For a more expensive bulb that does not improve your road vision? What, so you can say, I got me some blue bulbs?? !!

Ridiculous! Take your responsibilities seriously - don't risk the vision of others on the road who meet you! Install and replace only the correct, approved DOT replacement bulbs. This is not cheap, either - 200 UK pounds is about $300 USD - that's a lot of money. Their price on the regular bulb is 180 pounds, still more than $270 USD.

Compare this to $156.50 USD delivered in 50 states by Priority Mail, for two bulbs.

Can I rest my case?

Thank you,

Geoff
 
#23 ·
Quote "Still not as cheap as buying from QPower, but for those who want something different from Philips, and don't mind dropping the extra coin, here is the place."
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Far from cheap, these "Blue" bulbs could get your car towed or ticketed, or both, depending on jurisdiction, just because they are not legal in the USA. And maybe in Canada too... Remember, the cops are smart enough to know when they see something amiss.

Do any of you really need this kind of aggravation? For a more expensive bulb that does not improve your road vision? What, so you can say, I got me some blue bulbs?? !!

Ridiculous! Take your responsibilities seriously - don't risk the vision of others on the road who meet you! Install and replace only the correct, approved DOT replacement bulbs. This is not cheap, either - 200 UK pounds is about $300 USD - that's a lot of money. Their price on the regular bulb is 180 pounds, still more than $270 USD.

Compare this to $156.50 USD delivered in 50 states by Priority Mail, for two bulbs.

Can I rest my case?

Thank you,

Geoff
They are not really "blue bulbs." Geoff. In fact, I have one 6000K running just on one side of the Egg, and the other side OEM 4300K, (only because I still have to surgically remove the damn assembly). Hardly noticable at quick glance. Both bulbs are from Philips of course, the 6000K side is a very very slight bluer colour(some may even call it crisper white), than the OEM 4300K one. Hardly noticable at all, but the subtleness in change is what matters to some. In fact, I called my wife asked her first and a few buddies later on out, when I first installed these a few weeks ago, to tell me what they thought, and it was a clear unanimous decision. It took them all about 10 seconds of staring to notice it at first, as I was studying their facial. The Philips 6000K prejected a nicer, cleaner, more attractive white than the yellower 4300K was their answer. Having played with bulbs all my adult car enthusiast life, I'll even say that the Philips 6000K is not that ricer blue you see on other makes of "blue bulbs" in their case they can bve called just that.

So even though I can respect your law abideness in your given State, I seriously doubt that you will have a cop pulling you over. You guys know your country better than me of course. Thankfully, Canada lighting(for headlights) laws, are more inline with ROW. What cops SHOULD BE DOING is(AND THEY ARE NOT!!!), is to pull people over who run "HID kits" behind lenses that were NOT designed for HID period! Now that sort of thing, does blind drivers.

So you did write, "Don't risk the vison of others on the road that meet you?" Can you supply some facts for the ROW to read please? How is this Philips 6000K bulb more unsafe than 4300K to oncoming drivers?

Coming to price, buying OEM 4300K from you Geoff, is a smart choice. But I've heard others say at supper tables, why buy a $75000 Touareg, when you can buy 2-3 Jeeps or even a couple of Toyota 4WD trucks at the same price? They'll argue and argue of who the idiot really is. And who is?
My answer is nobody. Anyone chooses to do what he will with his/her money. I personally don't mind spending the extra coin on things that interest me, whether it be to try something new, and make life more interesting, or whatever the case be. There_is_nothing_wrong_with_that.

Coming back to bulbs, I have experimented with the vast majority of them over the last few years. I have posted my findings in counless pots in other forums, so I can back up my statements with experience. However, if again, if some of you guys feel that your State laws in the USA are super strict, than obviously stick to stock. Not trying to bring out the rebel in you.

That said, I can post up a picture of my Touareg tonight, with one side 6000Kfrom Philips, and the other side with the stock OEM 4300K, to those that it may interest.



 
#24 ·
On the coppers pulling people over re: lighting....around here cops are pulling over and giving out fines to anyone with blue bulbs. They are being fined under the "blue lighting is only for snow removal vehicles" law. Maybe a bit of a stretch, but I for one can do with one less civic with way too bright blue bulbs.

I doubt that the 6K bulbs look like the fake xenons that the coppers seem to be cracking down on, but I for one honestly HATE new xenon bulbs until after they've burned in.
 
#25 ·
Cops are pulling people over here running straight through mufflers, passing a long coat hanger type of wire to see if your muffler is chambered or straight through, checking to see if your cats are in place, etc.. They also check for things like if your rear tail lights are too tinted, orange bulbs replaced with clear ones for rear turn signals, automobile glass that is too tinted period, and yes, those "ricer" Civics with the Chinese SUPER blue bulbs, some cases even a very Green. They might even check to see the gap between the top of your tire, and the fender lip, to see if your vehicle is too low. If a cop doesn't like you, and he is a car enthusiast, it's game over.

Even then, as much as I hate cars like that in bad taste, you must give a cop a good reason to "rattle you" by the book like that, on all the aforementioned and even more. And by a "reason", I mean you either were impolite with them when they pulled you over for something simple like a seatbelt infraction, or even speeding, and you were being a prick. Respect them, as much as that may irk some. Humans beings by their own egoistic nature, like to flaunt their authority. Let those who that authority enjoy the ride. Don't go against it, or they have every right to go by the book, and perhaps even exaggerate and exceed the rules themselves, in which case you are looking at $$$$ lawers. This happend to a guy at work in his purple Honda Civic coincidentally!

Coming back to bulbs, I was pulled over 3 years ago by a nice looking lady cop(her partner on the right was a male cop), while I was being slightly reckless in my Alpina Turbo on L'Acadie in Montreal. I actually had my Innovate LC-1 hooked up to the laptop, and was doing some A/F mixture tuning, but that's not the reason I got reckless...some idiot who was tailgating me in his Lexus pissed me off, and boy do I hate tailgaters..so I let him have it...I floored it.
Anyways back to the point, after I got pulled over by the two cops, they gave my fully modded, and tastefully done I might add, E30 Alpina C2 2.7 Turbo a thorough run-through. This was the first time after close to 2 decades of ownership, that something like this happened to me. I specifically remember them looking at my custom headlights, which by the way was a full 6000K job with real Philips ballasts, and Euro Projector lenses. Very tasteful, almost stock looking setup. Long story short, the only question they asked me about my car, after the, ahem, "inspection" was why was the exhaust was slightly too loud. They asked me if it was "stock"? I was honest, and said Alpinas were never brought into the country and sold to begin with due to legislation, so I imported ALL the parts in, and assembled it myself, and that the muffler(a real Alpina muffler), was indeed stock in Europe. They searched the car some more, and in the end, they asked me to explain to them how my Innovate LM-1 worked :cool:, and what was the point of it? Long story short, after they told me that they could have "rattled" me with a reckless violation, they ended up complimenting me on the car, to drive safe, and take good care of it!!

Moral of the story. Quality parts + Good taste + A nice car to begin with + Respect = :cool:
 
#26 ·
For the rest of us, the morale of the story is to drive safely and within specifications which can spare hassles with the police. Police don't need to respect you around these parts - they only need to churn and "burn" you; there is "fresh meat" down the road somewhere. If they are paying attention, watch out! If your inspection station is paying attention, watch out - lights are a fundamental part of our annual inspection requirement.

I don't see your point concerning the bulbs - the stock 4300K lights throw all the light that the law allows, the 6000K bulbs you purchased from England at dramatically higher costs don't seem to make a real difference, especially when one comes time to have an inspection and may run afoul of the system. You're not bring anything of real value to the equation, not savings, not a meaningful change in light output.

Why bother, then? To be different? Is this a Viva la difference, Quebecois kind of thing?

I'm stumped... must be in the water. ;)
 
#28 ·
For the rest of us, the morale of the story is to drive safely and within specifications which can spare hassles with the police. Police don't need to respect you around these parts - they only need to churn and "burn" you; there is "fresh meat" down the road somewhere. If they are paying attention, watch out! If your inspection station is paying attention, watch out - lights are a fundamental part of our annual inspection requirement.

I don't see your point concerning the bulbs - the stock 4300K lights throw all the light that the law allows, the 6000K bulbs you purchased from England at dramatically higher costs don't seem to make a real difference, especially when one comes time to have an inspection and may run afoul of the system. You're not bring anything of real value to the equation, not savings, not a meaningful change in light output.

Why bother, then? To be different? Is this a Viva la difference, Quebecois kind of thing?

I'm stumped... must be in the water. ;)
You are in the water, but in the shallow end. ;)

My point on the bulbs is very simple. It's for the SUBTLE change in style/look. Nothing more, nothing less. I've written many times on this board actually, that 4300K produces a couple hundred more lumens if anything over the 6000K. Mind you, that difference in lumens is less than comparing a 5 year old oxidized plastic lense housing, over a brand new one. So from a science perspective, going to 5000-6000K is nothing about performance gains. Clear?

BTW, I'll make you a 200$ bet, that your local inspection station will never tell the difference, if you install 6000K Philips bulbs ;)

If I'm in a good mood tonight, I'll post a picture of my Egg with one side 6000K, and the other side 4300K. Then you can decide for yourself ;)

Nothing wrong with being different. Unless you are a communist, where everyone dresses the same, and drives the same car. IN THE NAME OF THE LAW.



 
#29 ·
.....I'll start a new thread elsewhere if I do decide to take pictures tonight. We can continue are great discussion there :)

BTW Geoff, I have reffered many to you concerning the bulbs, when their needs dictates it. Probably more so than Powerbulbs. I try to take a very balanced stance when it comes to mods, with no preaching in between.



 
#30 ·
Actually I'd like to see the photo for the sake of seeing the comparison...the only photos I've seen make it seem like 6K is the holy grail of lighting vs 4300
 
#31 ·
If there are any aussies here that need these. I can ship these fedex to you for $65.00 additional.
In that case Dick and nancy will just have to forward them to me so I can ship them to you.
If you need them to a different country let me know for a quote. However it is likely not going to differs much from this price.
 
#34 ·
to remove the headlight assembly you need more than 1/4 turn. as long as you are turning in the correct direction (see sticker next to screw) it will feel like it will brake the plastic then it will "click" and the headlight will more forward. then, you press the safety tap on the inside to remove the assembly while turning the screw a little more. when installing turn the screw until you here the "click" again. that "click" is the positive lock feature.

hope this helps
rudy
 
#37 ·
I used my index finger to press on the retaining clip, it's on the housing just a few inches forward of the "close-open" 6mm hex thingy.


I am replacing the drivers side Xenon bulb on a 2005 V8 Touareg. Have located the 3/4 turn 6mmm socket location (using tool in the spare tire well), turns fine (did not break it) but after pushing light assembly forward an inch or two, I could not locate the spring clip that releases the light assembly fully. Can you detail exactly where this finger tip/screwdriver accessed clip is so that I can complete the job.

Thanks Swilliscool
 
#42 ·
It took me 30 mins to find my clip the first time i changed bulbs, its very difficult to find. It is located near the front of the assembly on the side closest to the radiator. Its silver and rectangular with a rectangular dent in it. You cannot see it through the holes on the top of the radiator bulkhead, I had to peer in the side where the hex bolt is. The clip itself is kinda small.
 
#39 ·