Hi, when will the 2011 be available in the US?
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VW plans to have the 2011 available at dealerships by the end of October.
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I for sure would. X5 was never my favourite. If i can wait till Sep for a new celphone, you can wait till Oct for a new Treg. 8)
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I'm eyeballing TDI and trying hold my horses and wait 2011.
2010 TDI though is "screaming attention and take me" but as I don't need transfercase for off-roading and I'm more after mileage and a bit better towing than my current Audi Q5 that got 35000 miles in 14 months...
All my cars (MB G, bunch of Passats etc) back in Europe were TDI's and I just can't help it, I prefer TDI instead gasser.
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FYI: BMW doesn't build a V6 engine ---- the folks at Bimmer love Inline-6's.
Heard from dealer nearby saying "soon", weeks not months. I wouldn't stake my life on this info but he said it came from his manager (?). He then went on to say that since the US is only 2% of VW sales, there will only be a few around. I asked if he had any US MSRP prices, which he didn't. However, world's worst salesman telling me negative things when I have not even been in the showroom yet. There is some reason that the 11 is late when it has been released in most other parts of the world (including Canada) and the 11 Cayenne is out and available, which is basically the same vehicle (with a ridiculous option list). Anyway, given VW's new approach to design of the Tourareg, improved reliability hopefully, and better packaging, we are going to wait a bit before before looking at others.
BTW, just for argument, we are the customers that VW is trying to reach to build sales: no interest in off road (taking a $50K car off road??), want high end luxury car-like SUV to impress neighbors and prove to outselves and others that we have "made it" (being honest), not too small like EX-35, something a little different, utility for wife to bring home garage sale junk, would buy a RX-300, etc. Sorry guys, you folks are not the market since VW wants to double and triple their sales volume. They know they have to go after the demographic mentioned above, get their prices in line with the name plate and get their reliability up to increase sales. One interesting point, I mentioned to my wife, that the Cayenne is the same vehicle, more or less, and probably only $5K more or so. She said "if that's true why would anyone buy a VW" Likewise, the new A7 in design. (Note, many people buy Lexus for the "dealer experience". The audi dealer comes and picks up and delivers your car leaving a loaner when service is needed.) I think VW needs to be very careful about sharing platforms in an obvious way when there is a perceived major difference in prestige (or "smell me" factor as my wife would say). No one buys a vehicle over $40K just because they need reliable transportation.
Also a concern is how the local dealer is going to repair the hybrid. It is an excellent design but very complex and will require a good understanding of electricity and electronics plus extensive training. In this regard, I like the approach that Hyundai has taken in that the local dealer is not allowed to attempt repairs or even exam the Genesis transmissions. If a problem is suspected, they are required to pull the entire transmission and replace it in totality. Very smart. My neighbor's Cayenne has been in shop for some time since they cannot fix it. The dealer gave her a loaner to drive until they can figure it out. Imagine the hybrid. I say this as an electrical engineer. The new hybrid is an amazing engineering achievement and I would love to have it but I am afraid if anything goes wrong (aside from the lifetime of the battery pack and how quick this technology will go obsolete wrecking resale - look at the resale values of old hybrids - very low).
Anyway, enough said (obviously)
I'm being very honest here in my comments even though many will "hate" what I am saying. I would also if I really liked the older Touaregs. I don't make reality.
BTW, just for argument, we are the customers that VW is trying to reach to build sales: no interest in off road (taking a $50K car off road??), want high end luxury car-like SUV to impress neighbors and prove to outselves and others that we have "made it" (being honest), not too small like EX-35, something a little different, utility for wife to bring home garage sale junk, would buy a RX-300, etc. Sorry guys, you folks are not the market since VW wants to double and triple their sales volume. They know they have to go after the demographic mentioned above, get their prices in line with the name plate and get their reliability up to increase sales. One interesting point, I mentioned to my wife, that the Cayenne is the same vehicle, more or less, and probably only $5K more or so. She said "if that's true why would anyone buy a VW" Likewise, the new A7 in design. (Note, many people buy Lexus for the "dealer experience". The audi dealer comes and picks up and delivers your car leaving a loaner when service is needed.) I think VW needs to be very careful about sharing platforms in an obvious way when there is a perceived major difference in prestige (or "smell me" factor as my wife would say). No one buys a vehicle over $40K just because they need reliable transportation.
Also a concern is how the local dealer is going to repair the hybrid. It is an excellent design but very complex and will require a good understanding of electricity and electronics plus extensive training. In this regard, I like the approach that Hyundai has taken in that the local dealer is not allowed to attempt repairs or even exam the Genesis transmissions. If a problem is suspected, they are required to pull the entire transmission and replace it in totality. Very smart. My neighbor's Cayenne has been in shop for some time since they cannot fix it. The dealer gave her a loaner to drive until they can figure it out. Imagine the hybrid. I say this as an electrical engineer. The new hybrid is an amazing engineering achievement and I would love to have it but I am afraid if anything goes wrong (aside from the lifetime of the battery pack and how quick this technology will go obsolete wrecking resale - look at the resale values of old hybrids - very low).
Anyway, enough said (obviously)
I'm being very honest here in my comments even though many will "hate" what I am saying. I would also if I really liked the older Touaregs. I don't make reality.
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Few thousand bucks difference between VW and Porsche doesn't make sense at all.
As well I agree you with hybrid as I have been working with urea based emission control and followed close by the developement of hybrids for heavyduty equipment. All this is aline with what German car manufacturers have been saying all the time, hybrids doesn't make sense right now as their manufacturing cost is way higher than modern diesel and hybrid doesn't have efficiency of diesel.
The amount of money we dump to hybrid parts is so high that the owner will not gain that money back by fuel savings during the expected functional lifetime of vehicle.
My understanding is that VW wanted to make sure they had everything covered. Smart, but they put a heck of an effort into the hybrid when it really doesn't support the price diff, complexity, and battery replacement cost. Probably suicide not to lease. On the other hand, the thing is fast. The urea is bad news and it's my understanding that diesels might be in trouble in Europe as they drop the diesel fuel subsidy. In any case, probably will just go with the simple V6.
Looking at the Cayenne, the base price is not that much more than the Touareg but the options are unbelievable. I think they show 12 different kinds of leather. Anyway, it's my understanding that the 11's T's will have different option packaging.
Looking at the Cayenne, the base price is not that much more than the Touareg but the options are unbelievable. I think they show 12 different kinds of leather. Anyway, it's my understanding that the 11's T's will have different option packaging.
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I haven't heard about the diesel subsidy and I know in Finland diesel is not supsidized, it is taxed and taxed once again and on top of all that, diesel cars still pay "mileage advantage over the gassers" annual tax penalty no matter it was supposed to be temporary 20 years ago when it written into the law.
It's still cheap here in States so I going to keep my eyes on 2011 TDI
It's still cheap here in States so I going to keep my eyes on 2011 TDI
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Just got an update from VW on the U.S. dates:
2011 Touareg at dealerships for sale: mid-November
TDI and Hybrid versions will show up at the same time
Off-road package not available for the 2011 model year.
That's what I know.
2011 Touareg at dealerships for sale: mid-November
TDI and Hybrid versions will show up at the same time
Off-road package not available for the 2011 model year.
That's what I know.
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Is air suspension going to be offered?
Okay, I'm hoping someone here can clarify something for me...
I've searched the web for a couple weeks now, trying to determine what off-road features VW will offer on the 2011 Touareg in the US market. I know they're NOT going to offer 4XMotion (i.e., low, off-road gearing). But I have found conflicting/ambiguous information about whether VW will offer air suspension as a option with 4Motion in the US, as Porsche is doing.
I live on two-track roads in northern Michigan. I can live without the low, hill-climbing gears of 4XMotion. But the 6.3" ground clearance of standard, steel-spring 2011 Touaregs is a no-go for me. I need more clearance to navigate our two-track roads, especially in winter when we have a foot of more of snow.
Does anyone know if VW is going to offer air-suspension as an option on 2011 Touaregs in the US?
Okay, I'm hoping someone here can clarify something for me...
I've searched the web for a couple weeks now, trying to determine what off-road features VW will offer on the 2011 Touareg in the US market. I know they're NOT going to offer 4XMotion (i.e., low, off-road gearing). But I have found conflicting/ambiguous information about whether VW will offer air suspension as a option with 4Motion in the US, as Porsche is doing.
I live on two-track roads in northern Michigan. I can live without the low, hill-climbing gears of 4XMotion. But the 6.3" ground clearance of standard, steel-spring 2011 Touaregs is a no-go for me. I need more clearance to navigate our two-track roads, especially in winter when we have a foot of more of snow.
Does anyone know if VW is going to offer air-suspension as an option on 2011 Touaregs in the US?
My guess and it is just that would be no off road air suspension for 2011 but probably mid-year 2011 as a 2012 model.
Again this is just a wishful guess.
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No air suspension coming at this time either.
The $5K diff in base price between a Cayenne and Treg actually tuns into $20-$30K when you equip them the same way.
My concern is more with the pricing vs the Q7 TDI, X5 diesel, ML350CDI, and Lexus RX450h. The Treg is almost identically priced compared to all those vehicles, and now that it offers nothing special compared to any of those I don't really understand where the Touareg "fits" anymore. While I understand few people use the offroad capability of the Treg, almost none of us NEED the $600 phone in our pockets or the $200 shirts we're wearing either...the selling point with the T1/T2 was that the only way to get that same capability was with Land Rover, what VW is offering in the '11+ can be purchased elsewhere (almost anywhere really) for similar money and with a better dealer experience/better resale/better perceived image.
My concern is more with the pricing vs the Q7 TDI, X5 diesel, ML350CDI, and Lexus RX450h. The Treg is almost identically priced compared to all those vehicles, and now that it offers nothing special compared to any of those I don't really understand where the Touareg "fits" anymore. While I understand few people use the offroad capability of the Treg, almost none of us NEED the $600 phone in our pockets or the $200 shirts we're wearing either...the selling point with the T1/T2 was that the only way to get that same capability was with Land Rover, what VW is offering in the '11+ can be purchased elsewhere (almost anywhere really) for similar money and with a better dealer experience/better resale/better perceived image.
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