[volkswagendude]

Like I said... when this filter starts to capture things, your trans is finished. All filings i have seen (in other trans) have either been caught by the magnets, or are small enough to be caught by a conventional filter.

This transmission is a how the Japanese stick it to the germans. Does the Touareg 2 still use an Aisin trans?

Yup, same one.

 

[siberian]

Yes AFAIK they use Aisin

siberian

 

[Laggyband]

You seem to mistakenly think the drain plug opening is at the bottom of the pan. It's not. Anyway, the tool comes with a set of adaptors for different cars. The one for this transmission is shaped like a an "F" without the center line and with the top line angled down, to hook into the fill hole. And FYI the top of the fill hole is an inch or two above the bottom level of the pan so you pump in a few quarts before it starts to spill out.

As for Amsoil, I see no point in second guessing what the transmission manufacturer uses. I used the Toyota fluid and it shifts great. It's not so much as what oil you use, but how often you change it, and with the much cheaper Toyota oil, you can change it more often without spending too much.

Hahaha Mad--we have hundreds of these at work for our process gearboxes.

 

[Laggyband]

Did the transmission service this weekend. Here's how I did it. I warmed it up before starting. I used ramps in the front to get the elevation I needed underneath so I could work. My driveway is on a slight downward slope so when the front wheels were on the ramps it was level. I checked the vehicle for level by putting a four foot level under the vehicle. First step remove the two shrouds under the car. Next pull the drain plug on the transmission using a T40 Torx bit.

My fluid was somewhat cloudy. Took about 5 minutes to drain. Next I loosened the fill plug using a 5/8 Hex bit, then all the bolts around the transmission pan using a 10mm socket. There are two towards the front that required using an open end 10mm wrench because you can't get a socket in there. Pull the pan down.

Clean the pan and magnets. I used paper towels, removing each magnet for thorough cleaning.

Next I removed the old filter by removing the three 10mm bolts holding it on. Note, when I began to loosen these more fluid began to dump out. Make sure you have plenty of rags handy and a large pan to collect the fluid. I would estimate about 6-6.5 quarts came out.

Install the new filter. In my case the old filter gasket was still in the housing. Make sure to remove the old gasket. I installed the new gasket on the filter and put it in as one piece. Put the three 10mm bolts back in.

Now put the new gasket on the pan, and re-install pan. Reinstall drain plug. Remove fill plug. I used a simple hand pump that screwed right on top of the Amsoil quart bottles, I got it at Napa.

I did have to modify it a bit to make the 90 degree bend with the tube. The tube itself wouldn't retain that shape so I took an 8" piece of wire and put it inside the tube bending it around the end to get my 90 degree bend. I was able to pump in 3 quarts before I had to start the engine. Once the engine was running I pumped in another 3.5 quarts. I used Amsoil ATF-QT. Let it warm up for a few minutes so the excess could drip out while the transmission came up to temp. Put the fill plug back in. Put shrouds back on. Done. Took me about an hour and a half. Using the hand pump wasn't bad at all, it took about 15-20 pumps per quart. The transmission now shifts remarkably smooth, I can hardly feel it shift anymore. Before the change 1-2 was jerky, now it's butter smooth. Also when cold it shifts very smooth as well, no more jerky up-shifting and downshifting. Paid $65 for filter, filter gasket, and pan gasket from rmeuropean.com. Paid $80 for 8 quarts of Amsoil ATF-QT at Napa. Total cost $145.

Is this part the transmission filter/strainer people are talking of:

 

[siberian]

Yes. Nice write-up!

siberian

 

[Laggyband]

For peoples information #4 is the notorious transmission valve which gives so many people so much woe. I dont like the idea of electrical connections bathed in oil, oil generally being a conductor (Especially mineral) and so many connections looks like a recipie for heartache to me.

 

[siberian]

Well most electrical fuel pumps are in the gas tank...

siberian

 

[Laggyband]

Well most electrical fuel pumps are in the gas tank...

siberian

Yet the electrical connection to that pump is on the outside of the tank, i just dont like the idea of it, fuel pumps are usually hard wired to the outside of the tank anyways. To me the valve should be mounted on the side of the gearbox, not inside. Its not impossible, just the porting needs thinking out a bit more.

 

[noobytoogy]

I must admit I was very surprised to see those wires bathed in ATF.

 

[sparkyman]

Hey Nooby - do you know of any UK Treg owners who have had their ATF changed, or done a DIY ?

Interesting to read that the "Sealed for Life" tag is just for warranty period. Sure I read somebody in the UK approached a dealership for an ATF change and was told "....sealed for life...no need"

I'd like to consider having mine changed but don't have the facilities or familiarity with gearboxes to DIY - might enquire with dealership and gauge response.

 

[noobytoogy]

I do not recollect any that have been done voluntarily over the past 3 years I've been following www.mytreg.com

Those of us that have had valve chest failures are the lucky ones as the ATF is drained to access the chest and then refilled [courtesy of Warranty Direct in my case!]!

And, yes, if you ask a dealer, the boxes are "sealed for life".

I do not know where you are based but there is an excellent, well recommended auto box specialist called king automatic gearboxes - repair, overhaul, replacement, recondition

Crap website but VERY higly rated by Honest John and a number of his contributors at The Daily Telegraph for talking sense and not spending a customer's hard earned cash if it's not essential.

May I suggest you give them a ring and have a chat?

 

[Laggyband]

VAG 1924 is just a 5L jug with a pipe and valve out of the bottom with the elbow pipe on the end of that.

 

[dragline1570]

Transmission service

Just ordered a new gasket an oil filter screen from the Auto Parts People in USA
$105 delivered to my door total
Local VW dealer wanted $290 for both
Not sure how they can justify the price difference
Plan to drain and refill with Nulon full synth multiple vehicle ATF fluid ($64) for 4L
Even has on the bottle the VW oil spec number equivalent !

Regards
Dragline

 

[ironrooster]

Hi, I have a 2005 Touareg with V6. Can you tell me where the fill plug is located? Driver side near the front of the yransmossion facing up? Thanks.

 

[azas64]

Thanks Laggyband for your writeup, it saved me about $300 by not going to the dealer. It is great that you went into so much depth with phots that gave me the confidence to say yeah I can do that!

 

[Sin Wagon]

Prepping to do a fluid change for my trans and found this nice piece of equipment on Amazon that works both as an extractor AND dispenser. 8 qt capacity. $89

Mityvac 7201

 

[alex gee]

I used this style pump. Cheap and easy and screwed onto the ATF fluid bottles top.

I did a little write up here.

http://www.clubtouareg.com/forums/f43/transmission-fluid-levels-68209.html

 

[Laggyband]

I used this style pump. Cheap and easy and screwed onto the ATF fluid bottles top.

I did a little write up here.

http://www.clubtouareg.com/forums/f43/transmission-fluid-levels-68209.html

Mine is pretty much the same but has a 10L bottle and i have 2 different types of pump. I'm in the process of making a couple of the VAG style nozzles with the 145 degree tig welded end for filling the gearbox.

 

[siberian]

Hey Alex, where did you get that pump?

siberian

 

[alex gee]

I got it from eBay , I forgot to mention that the hook is absolutely ideal.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/UTILITY-...HOP-GARAGE-SHED-/260918658853?pt=AU_Hand_Tools&hash=item3cbff6c725#ht_516wt_689

And here's one stateside , a little closer to you. Lol

http://www.drillspot.com/products/341619/dayton_2uy12_dispensing_utility_pump