I get something similar but only happens when I put the car away overnight after being washed or after being driven in the rain.

What I believe is happening on mine is the high carbon rotors start to lightly rust as they dry (I often notice the rust colour on the rotors) and this causes the pads "bind" lightly on the rotor.
When I go to drive off, there is a creeking noise as this bond is broken, I hear this only once when starting off for the first time.

For you to have warped your rotors the pads must have been making contact with the rotor pretty aggressively for long periods at a time....... are you sure this was the cause of your warping and not by overuse of the brakes or by, someone resting their left foot habitually on the pedal as some drivers of automatic cars seem to do?

Not suggesting you do but I say this as I think I recall seeing you bought your Touareg not all that long ago, just a thought.

TonyB

 

Who checked your brakes out and said the other set were warped. I find this highly unlikely. It takes a tremendous amount of effort (like race car kind of driving over a sustained amount of time together with high heats) to do this to brakes like that on a touareg.

I'd maybe start with a another brake specialist ..... another thought ... what brakes are you using ... original ??? Are they ECE-R90 approved ? IMHO R90's are the only ones you should really use

 

pad vibration

Brakes had been making a "creaking" noise as I take my foot off the brake pedal while in gear. Eventually it warped my rotors and I just had them replaced. The creek was gone for about 2 days and now over the course of about 2 weeks, the "creaking" noise in the front brakes is back! What can cause this? Is this a normal thing? It certainly doesn't sound like a vehicle would be designed to make this noise. It feels as tho the brake pads are letting go of the rotor or whatever un-evenly or something to me.

Common issue. Not a chance it's caused by warped rotors. Your brake guy sold a set of rotors.

My 04 creaked like that a couple of years ago. It's slight vibration where the pads hit the calipers. I put some brake lube on the backs, the metal sides of the pads where they hit the calipers, and on top where hardware contacts the pads. No more creaking.

Since then, I put in new pads with lubing as described and the new pads have never creaked. Probably after enough water and salt spray, they will need to be lubed again.

 

Well when they did the brake job, afterward the warped feeling went away. The one thing I question now is if this auto shop is using OEM brakes or an aftermarket set of rotors and pads.

Why the hell would my brakes be creeking so much as I take my foot off the brakes while in D? I swear to god I can't get decent help with my vehicle here in Atlantic Canada!!!! It's so frustrating.

The mechanics at the shop are not as detailed as people I find on here, like noobytoogy (for example). I am getting more help from this site than from the VW dealer. I have also used a 3rd party company that specializes in Volkswagens. They are the ones that did the brake repair.

Either I have another issue with my vehicle (not sure if a bad transmission or bad differential or bad stepper motor or bad centre support bearing would cause a lot of the problems that I've had or not.... but I would appreciate any Dr. Touaregs out there to communicate with me to see if they can help out). I have all my records of repairs and maintenance if anyone feels inspired enough to help out.

Private message me if you prefer or continue this thread!

 

The creak issue that I referred to occurs at a very very slow speed just as you are releasing your brakes. It also can occur while you are easing up on the pedal just before coming to a complete stop.

Touareg rotors are very hefty and not prone to warping unless perhaps the caliper is not floating freely and really heating up the rotor unevenly. Pulsations that are mistaken for warpage are often just uneven pad deposits that can be eliminated by properly bedding the brake pads. A series of really hard braking events from 60 mph or kph(close enough) to about 5 without stopping. Allow 3-5 minutes between each braking to allow the rotors to cool. Try that. The hardest part is finding an empty road.

If you re-bed the brakes and then try the lubrication on metal to metal contact points and are still getting the creaking, I would put on a new set of pads from another manufacturer(and lube as described). Buy a set of sensors, because the usually break when you change pads no matter how careful you are.

I'm surprised that they didn't put on new pads with the rotors. If the shop was decent they should also have checked the calipers to make sure they weren't binding.

FYI, if you haven't changed the pads yourself, it's a snap, and only takes a few minutes, not counting jacking up the car and removing the wheel. Pit stop stuff.

 

Yes the replaced the pads and sensors along with the rotors. I'm really starting to question whether or not they used oem parts or after market parts on my blower motor replacement ... and on my front brake replacement of rotors, pads and brake sensors. If they are not oem i'm scared that they won't hold up on my vehicle and i'm going to run into the same thing all over again. By the way, the creaking noise is very annoying! They are brand new, they shouldn't creak!

 

So you had this "creaking" noise before you had the work done, the shop you took it to said the noise was due to the "warped" rotors and told you that you should have your brakes replaced and now the creaking is back?

Asking for advice here won't sort your problem out........, why don't you save yourself some worry and just take it back to the shop and tell them that replacing the brakes didn't fix the noise and ask them to fix it.
I would also ask them exactly what parts they used (OEM or aftermarket) to do the work.

BTW, not using OEM parts doesn't necessarily mean the parts are inferior just that they generally don't cost as much and hopefully those savings get passed to you!

TonyB

 

They just told me that they used Zimmerman brakes. They are not the OEM but he said they are german made. I actually feel like the OEM pads, rotars and sensors wouldn't make the creaking noise. So basically I just feel like I've wasted my money on **** that I don't want.

 

A lot of folk on here use and recommend the Zimmerman discs/rotors but they usually fit OEM PAGID pads with them to keep the feel of the OEM brakes.

 

do you think these zimmerman brakes are the reason I am getting creaking noise.... or would something else like a bad transmission or stepper motor cause a lot of stress on things like the brakes and other parts?

 

You are stressing this way too much. It is not a problem and just the nature of the Brembo brakes on this vehicle. I can make the same noise happen on my '10 with slow speed slight brake release while in D. Just how it is and is not a problem with the system at all.

 

True that. That situation didn't occur to me until you mentioned it.

I can make almost any brakes make noise if I find that special spot where the brakes are barely grabbing the rotor.

I did not think of that as a possible problem. It is more the natural way that brakes work.

 

Creeking Brakes, dry piston dust seals and/or pins

Hi
Recently this "creaking" has occurred on my Touareg 2014 15,000 miles TDi

Notice it only at low speeds and when stationery, sometimes ?

No reply to queries on uk MyTouareg.

GOOGLE search came up, on other car site,s, Mustang I think, and others, that noise is caused by dry dust seals on brake pistons, ( one maker had a TSB for.) others argued that it was sticking pad locating springs.

I think I will go with dry caliper piston dust seals, might try a fix next time fitting winter wheels/tyres.


Rgds

 

There are several variables. If the parts fitted aren't of the correct specification, like high carbon iron rotors, you'll hear more noise thruout the life cycle of the brakes. These calipers are a fixed design and don't "float". Only thing moving are the pistons against their seals, which won't cause this noise. It's entirely likely that the shop you went to reused the old pad hardware, an anti rattle locating clip and pressure pin. These should always be replaced upon installation of new pads and rotors, which should always be done as a set. That's why I only sell a complete parts kit including all these elements plus several small parts to insure correct installation and sound result.

It's also possible that they didn't torque caliper mounting bolts correctly and there's ever so slightly some play... It's not common to find that. The pad hardware is designed to last the life of one set of pads, and reusing it will bring more mislocation and play, hence noise you call creaking. Try to determine exactly what brand parts they did install? Report back.

Call me directly, if you'd like, for more conversation. I own this exact model nearly 12 years now...

 

I am with Yeti on this. My V6 TDI when fitted with 4 Piston Brembo callipers made this noise on very light application just before stopping or sometime just as you gently release them. After upgrading to the 6 Piston unit, I find they do exactly the same..

Consider it "normal", just that it is more pronounced with some pad compounds over others. You may wish to experiment with different pad types to see what is acceptable to You. Personally I don't mind the shudder as I know the pads are working properly. I tend to fix the problem with the small knob above the heating controls on the left side!!!

Stuart....

 

GM TSB

Hi

My brakes and discs all original, less than 15,000 on the clock.

Attached GM TSB

 

Pagid and Zimmerman. Both are good stuff.

Google Zimmerman creaking. It comes back with no results about brake creaking. And Zimmerman brake noise does not seem to indicate a problem.

The fact that you changed parts and still have the same problem would lead one to suspect that the problem is coming from something that had not changed.

 

I just replaced our brakes a month ago. The Zimmermann completely SUCK. The make a fine black power that completely covers the front wheels. I am really disappointed! The fact that they do this is not widely mentioned.

You wash the car three days later the tires are completely black.



I wish I could return them!

 

It's the pads that make the dust, not the rotors. What type/brand of pads did you use with the Zimmerman rotors? If they bother you that much, you can probably just have the pads replaced for a not too crazy amount of money, of course depending on the pads and installer who's prices both can vary quite significantly.

 

I am using the Pagid pads.

 

I believe VW uses Pagid as their OEM pads, and yes, they make a TON of dust. I'm sure there are low dust pads available, but most likely you'd be giving up a bit of braking performance, i.e. slightly longer distances. I put a set of low dust pads on my X5 and while that pretty much eliminated the dust problem, I did indeed notice a degradation in performance. It wasn't too bad, but it was certainly noticeable.