anyone ????? please share your opinion about which oil you are using

 

anyone ????? please share your opinion about which oil you are using

i am not a V8 owner but all you will get is an opinion (i think thats all you want)
Oils nowdays are mostly highly engineered fluids, and even more so the reputable brands you mentioned. To make a claim one is better than the other is a huge call and unlikely to be able to be backed with clear evidence.
Just to throw a curve ball, you live in the USA ?? what about Amsoil 5w-40 euro blend ? i have read nothing but good comments about Amsoil products.

regards
Drag

 

Oil and, specifically, "which is better" tend to turn into arguments and you don't as a rule end up getting anything definitive.

My advice would be to use something with the VW 505.00 approval and you should be fine. There's a list of conforming oils somewhere on here if you search. Any conforming oil will do a fine job for you. If I recall correctly, VW 505.00 does require synthetic, though I think group III and group IV synthetics can qualify.

It is my personal preference to use a group IV whenever possible. Many would argue that its overkill when you do no stretch out change intervals. And they could very possibly be right. But, I do not mind spending a little more on oil even if it is only "feel good" insurance.

One last thing - check out bobistheoilguy.com for as much as you would ever want to know about lubricants.

 

I use the Amsoil and it seems to be good.

 

I am Motul Xlite 0-30w Easter user. Very happy.

 

Castrol and Mobil are reputable makes.

Use the grade specified in the handbook for your engine.

And always use a VW OEM filter.

 

I have been a Mobil1 user for years and am very concerned with durability, shear rate, etc. I run my Porsches at the track and my Audi is a high revving V8 so I want really good protection under pretty extreme situations. I stuck with Mobil1 because Porsche recommends it, even the independent techs I deal with do too. So I figure they wouldn't steer me wrong. Also, at an American Lemans Series race a couple years ago we had a pit pass and both the factory Audi R team and Lizard Racing Porsche used Mobil1 right out of the plastic bottle that you and I get at WalMart! That makes me pretty confident.

Are some other oils just as good? Sure, most likely. But I am confident in Mobil1 so that's what I use. I'll put it in the T3 when I need it.

 

http://www.clubtouareg.com/forums/f92/the-gas-engine-and-drivetrain-fluids-discussion-73900.html

 

no im not in the US, but my car is from US

 

Mobil-1 0W-40

 

I agree with Sam in post above.

I guess if I was to simply answer your question, keeping it simple with no discussion at all, without my need to back this answer up with with 1 full hours worth of PDF file reading links, I would have to say.........Mobil 1 0W40

 

Mobil 1 0w-40 is VW 505.00 rated, and it is a group IV synthetic, it has to be, to get that type of spread/range in oil grade. I've run it in my ALH motor based VW jetta TDI diesel, run it 15,000 miles between oil changes with maybe 1/2 qt of makeup oil, and my wear metal for iron was 51ppm, which works out to about 3.5 ppm per 1000 miles driven, extremely low wear rates in a very high compression 21:1 motor.

It's very, very good synthetic group IV PAO based motor oil. I'd use it without hesitation.

 

I disagree, Mobil 1 is NOT a group IV oil, not in US, not anymore. In fact it is a hydrocracked group III oil. There are almost no true group IV oils in US besides Amsoil and Redline.

I am currently testing Motul 8100 x-cess and I like what I see so far. I'll be sending a sample to Blackstone at 5000 mark to see how it did. I will then try Amsoil to compare the two. So far from what I hear from S4 guys (same 3.0T engine as mine) they all loving it and the numbers are there to prove it. Said all that Mobil 1 or Castrol Syntec are not bad oils and both should work for your V8 with no problems but they perform mediocre in a VAG turbocharged engines. I have several lab analysis from my 2.0T Tiguan and results speak for themselves, I would NOT keep either one in my engine for longer than 5K miles.

 

Have to agree with Mobil 1 0w-40. Have been using it for years on all my vehicles. Even my Porsche that I would occasionally track

 

This thread would have got hard core like the good ol' days if the OP has specifically specified and thrown "German Castrol" 0W-30 into the mix.

 

Castrol "green" was as good as the mobil 1 mentioned, I'd run either in the car mentioned, just not in a pumpe dusse TDI based "jerk pump" motor.

 

Syntec 5w-40. It's what the dealer uses. I've changed it myself, but honestly the oil filter on the FSI V6 is such a PITA that I'll pay the extra $20 for someone to do it. Then it's their problem. I always check to make sure they didn't overfill it though.....

 

Syntec 5w-40. It's what the dealer uses. I've changed it myself, but honestly the oil filter on the FSI V6 is such a PITA that I'll pay the extra $20 for someone to do it. Then it's their problem. I always check to make sure they didn't overfill it though.....

Do you also check to see if they are changing the filter?! I mark my filter since I do the oil change every other time

 

Concur T-reguan. I am using Motul X-lite easter 0-30w in my V8/04. Cannot complain and will continue. It is Group V oil.

 

T-Reguan, I don't think Niner was implying that all M1 oils are Group IV oils. He was specifically mentioning the M1 0w40 as being the sole Group IV oil in its entire product line, or that's how I understood it. Unless the M1 0w-40 formulation has now changed? I haven't involved myself in any current oil discussion on oil forums last couple of years so....

I think it's fairly common knowledge(or I would like to think anyways ?)that Mobil 1 went downhill ever since its court battle loss to Castrol and its Syntec, synthetic or not argument years ago.

 

Folks have gotten wise to Mobil's marketing gimmicks. Although I can say that for my experience, I would use a bit of Rotella T-6 5w-40 in my Jetta between oil changes, perhaps 3/4 of a quart in 10 to 12,000 miles before doing an oil change, whereas Mobil 1 TDT 5w-40, I had a hard time measuring any oil consumption in 15,000 miles between oil changes. The stuff was less volatile or had less to none boil off or gassify as usage compared to the Rotella T6. Whether is based on blended group III and group IV, or how it was made /produced, I do not know, but it generated amazing wear numbers in my motor when having the oil tested by Blackstone.

 

this is the list of all oil that can be used main thing is which one make our engines more happy


Audi/VW original parts Part number ZVW 352 540 S SAE 5W-40
Audi/VW original parts Part number G 052 167 A2 SAE 5W-40
Addinol Addinol Extra Power MV 0538 LE SAE 5W-30
Addinol Addinol Super light MV0546 SAE 5W-40
Addinol Addinol Super power MV 0537 SAE 5W-30
Addinol High Star SAE 5W-40
Adnoc ADNOC Image SAE 5W-30
Agip Agip Extra HTS SAE 5W-40
Agip Agip Sint Evolution SAE 5W-40
Agip Agip Synthetic PC SAE 5W-40
Agip Agip Tecsint SAE 5W-30
Agip Agip Tecsint SL SAE 5W-40
AnYe Lubricating Oil AnYe 1 SAE 5W-40
Aral Aral HighTronic SAE 5W-40
Aral Aral SuperSynth SAE 0W-40
Aral Aral SuperTronic SAE 0W-40
Aral Aral Tronic 431 SAE 5W-40
Bardahl Bardahl XTC 100% Synthetic Motor Oil SAE 5W-40
Beijing Tongyi Petroleum Xin Gai Nian SAE 5W-40
BP BP Euro Germany SAE 5W-40
BP BP Euro Plus SAE 5W-40
BP BP Euro Spirit SAE 5W-40
BP BP Visco 5000 SAE 5W-40
BP BP Visco 7000 SAE 0W-40
BP BP Visco 7000 Sport SAE 5W-40
BP BP Visco 7000 TD SAE 5W-40
BP BP Visco 7000 TD Sport SAE 5W-40
BP BP Visco Special V SAE 5W-40
BP BP Visco Sport SAE 0W-40
BP Meister-Öl Leichtlauf-Motorenöl SAE 5W-40
Bucher AG Motorex Xperience FS-X SAE 5W-40
Bucher AG Select SP-X SAE 5W-40
Bucher AG Xperience FS-X SAE 0W-40
Carat Carat ad-Synt-Oil SAE 5W-40
Carl Bechem Hessol ADT Plus SAE 5W-40
Carl Bechem Staroil Synergie Alpha SAE 5W-40
Cartechnic Cartechnic Motorenöl SAE 5W-40
Castrol Adamol Multitop PDI SAE 5W-40
Castrol Castrol 505 01 SAE 5W-40
Castrol Castrol Edge SAE 0W-40
Castrol Castrol Formula RS Road and Track SAE 5W-40
Castrol Castrol GTD 505 01 Top Up SAE 5W-40
Castrol Castrol GTD Direct Injection SAE 5W-40
Castrol Castrol GTX 5 SAE 5W-40
Castrol Castrol GTX 7 Dynatec SAE 5W-40
Castrol Castrol GTX 7 Dynatec Neu SAE 5W-40
Castrol Castrol Performance SAE 5W-40
Castrol Castrol TXT 505 01 SAE 5W-40
Castrol Castrol TXT Softec SAE 5W-40
Castrol Castrol TXT Softec Plus SL SAE 5W-30
Castrol Castro Edge SAE 5W-40
Castrol Castrol Syntec SAE 5W-40
Cepsa Cepsa Star Mega Synthetic SAE 5W-40
Cepsa Cepsa Star TDI Synt SAE 5W-40
Chevron Havoline Ultra S SAE 5W-40
Chevron Havoline Ultra S SAE 5W-30
Coparts Carl Motorenöl Power SAE 5W-40
Cyclon Hellas Cyclon F1 Racing SAE 5W-40
De Oliebron Tor Hypersynth SAE 5W-40
Dongying Xinyi Xin Yi 1 SAE 5W-40
Duckhams Duckhams Q Fully Synthetic SAE 5W-40
Duckhams Duckhams QS SAE 5W-40
Duckhams Duckhams QS Premium MO SAE 5W-40
Elf Elf Excellium DID SAE 5W-40
Elf Elf Excellium LDX SAE 5W-40
Esso Esso Megatron SAE 5W-40
Esso Esso Ultron SAE 5W-40
Esso Esso Ultron SL SAE 5W-40
Esso Motor Oil Plus SAE 5W-40
Eurol Eurol Super Lite 5W-40 SL/CF SAE 5W-40
Feu Vert Feu Vert 100% Synthese SAE 5W-40
FL Selenia Pulsar S.D. SAE 5W-40
FL Selenia Selenia WR SAE 5W-40
Fuchs Fuchs TITAN Supersyn SAE 5W-30
Fuchs Fuchs TITAN Supersyn SAE 5W-40
Fuchs TITAN Formel MC SAE 5W-40
Galp energia Galp Energy Plus SAE 5W-40
Galp energia Galp Energy SP SAE 5W-40
Galp energia Galp Energy Ultra LS SAE 5W-40
Galp energia Galp Formula 1 Plus SAE 5W-40
Galp energia Galp Formula 505 SAE 5W-40
Galp energia Galp Formula TD Plus SAE 5W-40
Galp energia Galp Formula XLD SAE 5W-40
Gamaparts Gamaparts Gold Synt SAE 5W-40
Ginouves York 848 SAE 5W-40
Gulf Gulf Formula GX SAE 5W-30
Gulf Oil Gulf Formula G SAE 5W-30
Gulf Oil Gulf Formula G SAE 5W-40
Huiles Labo Labo Carat SAE 5W-40
Igol Igol Symbol Ceramic SAE 5W-40
Igol Process Compact P SAE 5W-30
INA INA Futura MB SAE 5W-30
Iranol Iranol 30,000 SAE 5W-40
Kendall Motor Oil Kendall GT-1 Full Synthetic Motor Oil SAE 5W-40
Kuttenkeuler Motorenöl S-Tronic SAE 5W-40
Liqui Moly Liqui Moly Leichtlauf HC 7 SAE 5W-40
Liqui Moly Liqui Moly Longtime High Tech SAE 5W-30
Liqui Moly Liqui Moly Profi Synthoil SAE 5W-40
Liqui Moly Liqui Moly Synthoil High Tech SAE 5W-40
Liqui Moly Liqui Moly TopTec 4100 SAE 5W-40
Longpan Petrochemical Sonic 9000 SAE 5W-40
Lotos Lotos Dynamic SAE 0W-40
Lotos Lotos Economic SAE 5W-30
Lotos Lotos Syntetic SL/SJ/CF/CD SAE 5W-40
Lotos Lotos Traffic SAE 5W-40
Lukoil Lukoil-Synthetic SAE 5W-40
Meguin EMARAT Power Synth SAE 5W-40
Meguin megol Motorenoel New Generation SAE 5W-30
Meguin megol Motorenoel Super Leichtlauf SAE 5W-40
Meguin Motorenoel Low Emission SAE 5W-40
Meguin Motorenoel Ultra Performance Longlife SAE 5W-40
Meguin Olympia Pro-Tech Fully Synthetic Engine Oil SAE 5W-40
Mobil Mobil Special X SAE 5W-40
Mobil Mobil Syst S SAE 5W-40
Mobil Mobil Syst S ESP SAE 5W-30
Mobil Mobil 1 SAE 0W-40
Mobil Mobil 1 SAE 5W-40
MOL MOL Dynamic Star SAE 5W-40
MOL MOL Dynamic Synt SAE 5W-40
Motul Motul 8100 X-cess SAE 5W-40
Motul Motul 8100 X-clean SAE 5W-40
Motul Motul H-Tech Multi Standard SAE 5W-40
Motul Motul Specific 505 01 SAE 5W-40
Motul Motul Synergie SAE 5W-40
MRD Motor Gold Supertec SAE 5W-40
Nocc Valar Gema XLL 053 SAE 5W-30
Northland Synergy Synthetic EuroSyn SAE 5W-40
Oel-Brack Midland Avanza SAE 5W-40
Oel-Brack Midland Synqron SAE 5W-30
Oel-Brack Midland Synqron SAE 5W-40
Oest Oest ETA Synthetik SAE 5W-40
Oktanoil Mega Full SAE 5W-40
Ölwerke Julius Schindler Econo Veritas XL-HC SAE 5W-40
Ölwerke Julius Schindler OJS Econo-Veritas XL-HC SAE 5W-40
Ölwerke Julius Schindler OJS Engine Oil SAE 5W-40
Ölwerke Julius Schindler OJS Meister-Öl Premium-Motorenöl SAE 0W-40
Ölwerke Julius Schindler OJS Veritas Syntolube SAE 0W-40
OMV OMV full syn plus SAE 5W-30
Orlen Oil Orlen Platinum Vollsynthese SAE 0W-40
Orlen Oil Plantinum Synthetic SM/SL/CF SAE 5W-40
Orlen Oil PLATINUM MAXENERGY EURO4 SAE 5W-30
Panolin Panolin Indy SV SAE 5W-40
Paramo Mogul Racing Pro SAE 5W-40
Pennzoil Pennzoil European Formula Ultra SAE 5W-30
Pennzoil Pennzoil Platinum European Formula SAE 5W-40
Pennzoil Pennzoil Platinum European Formula Ultra SAE 5W-30
Pennzoil Pennzoil Synthetic European Formula SAE 5W-40
Pennzoil Pennzoil Synthetic European Formula Ultra SAE 5W-30
Pentosin Motorenoel Pento High Performance SAE 5W-40
Petro China Kunlun HTPC SAE 5W-40
Petro China KUNLUN Tianrun SAE 5W-40
Petrobras Lubrax Sintético SAE 5W-40
Petrol Ofisi PO Ultra SAE 5W-40
Petronas Petronas Syntium 3000 SAE 5W-40
Petronas Petronas Syntium 3000 LL SAE 5W-30
Petronas Petronas Syntium 3000 S SAE 5W-40
Petronas Petronas Syntium 5000 FS SAE 0W-40
Poweroil High-Tech-Schmierstoffe HD 5W-40 SL CF Topsynth SAE 5W-40
Prista Oil Prista Ultra SAE 5W-40
Profi-Tech Profi-Car Synth Tech XT SAE 5W-40
Protech Meister-Öl-Leichtlauföl SAE 5W-40
Quaker State Q European Engine SAE 5W-40
Quaker State Q European Engine Ultra SAE 5W-30
Quaker State Quaker State European Formula Ultra SAE 5W-30
Quaker State Quaker State Full Synthetic European Formula SAE 5W-40
Quaker State Quaker State Full synthetic European Formula Ultra SAE 5W-30
Rafinerija Modrica Optima Magnum Plus SAE 0W-40
Ratio Ratio Super Leichtlauf Motorenöl SAE 5W-40
Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb Ravenol Hydrocrack Synth. HCS SAE 5W-40
Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb Ravenol VSI SAE 5W-40
Repsol Repsol Elaion Full Performance SAE 5W-40
Repsol Repsol Elaion Full Performance SM SAE 5W-40
Repsol Repsol Elite Cosmos SAE 0W-40
Repsol Repsol Elite Evolution SAE 5W-40
Rowe Hightec Synth RS 5W-40 i SAE 5W-40
Rowe Hightec Synt-HC 5W-40 i SAE 5W-40
Rowe Rowe Synt PD SAE 5W-40
SCT Mannol Extreme SAE 5W-40
Seventy-Six Lubricants 76 Pure Synthetic Motor Oil SAE 5W-40
Shanghai Tempo Tempo 8000-1A SAE 5W-40
Shell Formula Shell Ultra AB SAE 5W-30
Shell Sehll Helix Ultra AM SAE 5W-40
Shell Shell Helix Plus SAE 5W-30
Shell Shell Helix Plus SAE 5W-40
Shell Shell Helix Plus S SAE 5W-30
Shell Shell Helix Plus S SAE 5W-40
Shell Shell Helix Premium SAE 5W-40
Shell Shell Helix Ultra SAE 5W-40
Shell Shell Helix Ultra SAE 5W-30
Shell Shell Helix Ultra AB SAE 5W-30
Shell Shell Helix Ultra AL SAE 5W-30
Shell Shell SL 0914 SAE 5W-40
Sinopec Polar Star SAE 5W-40
Sinopec Polar Star II SAE 5W-40
SK Corporation ZIC XQ SAE 5W-40
Slovnaft Madit Ultra SAE 5W-30
Smessindo Liqtro Enduro Ultra SAE 5W-40
SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb Wintershall Primalub topsynth SAE 5W-40
SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb Wintershall VIVA 1 Longlife SAE 5W-30
SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb Wintershall ViVA 1 topsynth SAE 5W-40
SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb Wintershall ViVA 1 topsynth alpha SAE 5W-30
SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb Wintershall ViVA 1 topsynth alpha LA SAE 5W-30
Startol Synt-XL SAE 5W-40
Statoil Statoil GT S SAE 5W-40
Statoil Statoil LazerWay SAE 5W-40
Statoil Statoil LazerWay C SAE 5W-40
Statoil Statoil Pro Synthetic SAE 5W-40
SWD Concep-Tech HDC SAE 5W-40
SWD swd Primus HDC SAE 5W-40
Texaco Havoline Ultra SAE 5W-40
Texaco Texaco Havoline Ultra BM SAE 5W-30
TNK Lubricant LLC TNK Ultra SAE 5W-40
Top Oil Top Evolution SAE 5W-40
Unicorn Unicorn Ultra Synt SAE 5W-40
Unil Opal Opaljet 24S SAE 5W-40
Valvoline Valvoline DuraBlend MXL SAE 5W-40
Valvoline Valvoline SynPower SAE 5W-30
Valvoline Valvoline SynPower MXL SAE 5W-30
VAPS VAPSOIL 502 00 SAE 5W-40
VAPS VAPSOIL 505 01 SAE 5W-40
Volkswagen Mexico Audi, Seat, VW Aceite para Motor a Gasoline
VW 502 00 100% Sintético
SAE 5W-40
Volkswagen Original Teile ® Volkswagen Special plus SAE 5W-40
Westfalen AG Westfalen Gigatron SAE 0W-40
Wolf Wolf Masterlube Synflow DC SAE 5W-40
Würth Triathlon Synthetic SAE 5W-40
Yacco Yacco VX 1000 SAE 5W-40
Yacco Yacco VX 600 SAE 5W-40
YPF Elaion Plus VWS SAE 5W-40
YPF Elaion Sintetico VWS SAE 5W-40
YPF YPF Elaion Full Performance SAE 5W-40
YPF YPF Elaion Full Performance SM SAE 5W-40
Zeller+Gmelin Divinol Syntholight SAE 5W-40

 

Ah, the plot thickens.

 

I am no chemist nor am I an oil expert but I probably know a bit more than a regular Joe. As I suggested earlier BITOG is a good place to start, plenty of discussions on M1 0w-40. A lot of good info there.

 

RE what T-Reguan wrote concerning some Motul products, and even the M1 0w-40 in question here, perhaps we shouldn't be so stuck on what Group the oil is in, since blending of the base stocks and all other additives is what is important, and therefore a well blended oil will be optimum for a given application that it was intended for.

For example, I have many times in the past(not here though) stated the attributes of Esters and PAO's, and really knocked hydrocracked Group 3 oils, but yet, the Motul 8100 X-cess 5W-40 that I'm now using in the Touareg, is purportedly a Group 3-4 and with a dash of Ester, Group 5 oil!

Ok, I will call Motul up tomorrow and ask, lets put all this down on the table once and for all. But I ain't calling Mobil......too corporate for me , so someone else go ahead and report back.

 

I find this thread amusing, Who has had a good talk with his or her engine lately? You find out which oil is better when one fails,and then it's too late. Maybe the thread should be who's engine failed on which oil. If you use a recommended oil I would venture they all do their job. Sorry,but I find it hard to worry too much about it. JP

 

Actuuuuuaaaaly, it's not so much about "engine failure", as opposed to specific parts not living up as long as they should have. There are a few V10 and R5 owners on here reporting excessive cam shaft lobe wear before they even hit the 200000km mark on OEM Castrol Syntec stuff. There are also some gasser guys that are reporting higher than normal oil consumption, although VW claim the latter to be "normal."

One then wonders, "what if" I had used something else from the get go instead? Particularly for the TDI guys.


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Disclaimer - I am not an Amsoil dealer but I do buy from them sometimes and I recently received an email stating that they now have three varieties of their European Car oil formula.

Full SAPS
Mid SAPS
Low SAPS

Apparently the mid and low SAPS are supposed to be better formulated for diesel engines.

Go on with your discussion now, as I enjoy reading the opinions and learning more about this stuff.