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.....buy a lightly used Honda Eu2000i generator with 2 HP and 2000 watts instead with the money for that chip tune,........
What a coincidence though....funny enough, per Siberian's recommendation, I have been shopping around for this precise Honda model myself!
Although I'm thinking of running two in parallel.... :cool:.



 
Common problem with the 2.7T...turbos were borderline. Rest of the engine was rock solid.
Turbo's on german cars are all borderline, it's all integrated to be near the engineering limits in stock form. Start running more boost, more fuel, lower in the rpms, and you exceed those limits and things go boom. VW and Audi TDI's have been destroying VNT turbo's with chip tunes since day 1, hell, they were destroying KKK and Garret Turbos in 1996 in the USA when the first Passat TDI's came out, and shortly thereafter, chip tunes became available. You can read about failures all day long on TDI club, if you search the archives. That's the way Germans engineer things... I would not want to fly a german built or engineered airplane or rocket ship to the moon.
 
Turbo's on german cars are all borderline, it's all integrated to be near the engineering limits in stock form. Start running more boost, more fuel, lower in the rpms, and you exceed those limits and things go boom. VW and Audi TDI's have been destroying VNT turbo's with chip tunes since day 1, hell, they were destroying KKK and Garret Turbos in 1996 in the USA when the first Passat TDI's came out, and shortly thereafter, chip tunes became available. You can read about failures all day long on TDI club, if you search the archives. That's the way Germans engineer things... I would not want to fly a german built or engineered airplane or rocket ship to the moon.
Some models were prone, while others were not. The BHW Passat is an excellent example of turbo's lasting longer than the chain drive system of the balance shaft on automatic N.A cars.:rolleyes: The V10 Touareg on the other hand has its turbo's blow every time the driver sneezes.

I think one can blame the idiotic media on this one, who cry and cry every time a car exhibits anything remotely resembling the over used term, "turbo lag" :rolleyes:. Manufacturers were thus forced to install, small, easy spooling (at low RPM's) turbos. Daily driver turbo cars now have full boost by 2000 RPM. So in a way, sadly you are right. Unless you replace the turbo to a larger unit, in order to achieve increased boost levels, you are in fact exceeding the efficiency threshold of the unit. Again though, this does not apply on all models, and something one should look into before thinking about reaching a certain predetermined power figure.

I drove my Rocketschip tuned (Stage 2) Passat quite hard for all of its 170000km until I sold it due to growing family. I had zero issues with it, but as I wrote before, my methods have never let me down. My brother seems to be doing quite well with his chipped 2010 Golf TDI with DSG! I write the exclamation point because many feared the DSG would go boom. He has accumulated an impressive amount of mileage, as his job is close to 70km one way. However worth noting, the DSG unit on these newer cars is not the same as the ones that first came out.

Turbo cars in general require a responsible owner in my view. Most tend to not be, hence why chipping them on daily modern drivers becomes a moot point.

If I were in command of all chipped cars, they would all be equipped with a turbo boost gauge, a turbo timer, and oil temperature gauge. Yes, all of them analog to please. Not because they are so much so as compulsory on low boost Stage 1 applications, because most owners are simply in my view, idiots.



 
Some models were prone, while others were not. The BHW Passat is an excellent example of turbo's lasting longer than the chain drive system of the balance shaft on automatic N.A cars.:rolleyes: The V10 Touareg on the other hand has its turbo's blow every time the driver sneezes.

I think one can blame the idiotic media on this one, who cry and cry every time a car exhibits anything remotely resembling the over used term, "turbo lag" :rolleyes:. Manufacturers were thus forced to install, small, easy spooling (at low RPM's) turbos. Daily driver turbo cars now have full boost by 2000 RPM. So in a way, sadly you are right. Unless you replace the turbo to a larger unit, in order to achieve increased boost levels, you are in fact exceeding the efficiency threshold of the unit. Again though, this does not apply on all models, and something one should look into before thinking about reaching a certain predetermined power figure.

I drove my Rocketschip tuned (Stage 2) Passat quite hard for all of its 170000km until I sold it due to growing family. I had zero issues with it, but as I wrote before, my methods have never let me down. My brother seems to be doing quite well with his chipped 2010 Golf TDI with DSG! I write the exclamation point because many feared the DSG would go boom. He has accumulated an impressive amount of mileage, as his job is close to 70km one way. However worth noting, the DSG unit on these newer cars is not the same as the ones that first came out.

Turbo cars in general require a responsible owner in my view. Most tend to not be, hence why chipping them on daily modern drivers becomes a moot point.

If I were in command of all chipped cars, they would all be equipped with a turbo boost gauge, a turbo timer, and oil temperature gauge. Yes, all of them analog to please. Not because they are so much so as compulsory on low boost Stage 1 applications, because most owners are simply in my view, idiots.
There you have it... I can recall quite clearly a guy that handed me some expensive Bosio Power Plus 205 nozzles to install in his car. I also did an oil change for him at that TDI GTG. He didn't have money to pay me a cent for my work, but then after telling me that, (like new nozzles just install themselves and you don't have to check for flow balance due to manufacturing anomolies via VCDS) he went and blew $300 with Jeff at Rocketchip for a stage II tune. Not knowing what he had done, he didn't bother to shorten the VNT adjustment rod about 1.5 turns to slow down the boost spikes to his stock VNT15 turbo to keep it at a manageable level.

Said guy worked in the entertainment industry, and went on a car commercial shoot, not near sea level where he lived, but up around 9000 feet in the High Sierra's, shooting a 4x4 truck commercial in the snow in the spring. Said guy lugged the engine a bit, with all his newfound torque, stabbed the accelerator too fast below 2000 rpm, surged his turbocharger one time too many, and his turbocharger grenaded, went through the intake, portions of it through the intercooler, and took out the complete motor. $5000 poorer after his mistake, and karma was a biatch to him.

Chip tunes and mountain roads and poor driving technique is a sure fire way to destroy a turbodiesel motor out here in the mountainous western United States. Which is where I like to tow my travel trailer in the summer. Stock tunes keep my vehicle in one piece, instead of a statistic with a dead motor or turbo, on the side of the road.
 
Niner, you mention diesel tunes at altitude. I recall an instance when I was still living in UT with my current TDI and running up Parleys Canyon with some guy in a lifted and "chipped" truck. Suffice it to say he tried his best to keep up with me in his modified diesel, but all I saw was a lot of black smoke at a distance in my rear view as his truck got smaller in it... :) That IMO was a good example of a bad mod with no gain to be had at altitude. But I bet his friends thought he was cool blowing all the black smoke...
 
...aahhhhh, my day is not complete :D





What a coincidence though....funny enough, per Siberian's recommendation, I have been shopping around for this precise Honda model myself!
Although I'm thinking of running two in parallel.... :cool:.
I have a 2000, thinking of selling it for a 3000...just sayin if anyones interested :D

And yes you can twin them up, but only US models (not Canadian models). there is a master and slave model, about 50 bucks difference between the two. Had a long chat with Siberian about this before he bought his, I had been running the tandem setup for my camper. A Nice sub 55db 4000W power station of my own :)
 
I definitely cringe with the guys who are chipping with zero knowledge as to what they are doing, and solely for the "I want faster car, all else don't matter mentality", the cool factor of it all. When their car does break down, their eyes are crossed zig zag literally like this :confused2:. I almost feel like slapping them no joke at all.

That said, lets paint the other side of the equation here. Here is a case scenario of an end user, that can make a milder Stage 1 tune work for him/her, in a civilized true way. I will once again, use one of my apprentices(my brother), as to why his 2010 Golf TDI is chipped.

There is long stretch of road he travels on called the Highway 50 (even NickM might be familiar with this road?). It is considered one of our most dangerous highway stretches in the region. It is basically a long stretch of road, right through a forest, with 2-way oncoming traffic(opposing traffic facing each other), where fatal head on collisions have occurred when one driver attempts to pass an other slow one, and miscalculates..Even to the most experienced of us drivers, it can be a butt puckering ordeal travelling on this road on a daily basis.

Come in 2010 Golf TDI for said case scenario. First my brothers profile. Super conservative, probably never raced anyone from a stop sign in his life. Just wanted a safe, reliable, strong(chassis rigidity), economical and fun piece of transport. I asked my brother when he first bought his ride(under my recommendation BTW), how is your cars passing power at mid range speeds in that death trap of a road? Response was "not bad at all, waaay better then that 2002 Jetta you passed on to me:mrgreen:. I tell him, "ummm, yes, that must of sucked no doubt :rolleyes:.....anyways how would you like it to be even better, more safe, even more confidence inspiring when accelerating from 80km/h to 110km/h? Shave off a solid half to full second in the midrange." He thought about it, almost said no, but having learned from my methods over the years, he said yes.

Ask him today, about his commute on that death road in his chipped TDI, and he will tell you with no hesitation at all, what used to be a literal butt puckering, white fisted ordeal back in 2002, is today a peaceful, ho hum commute. His car literally glides effortlessly in the mid range, in fact, he even reported that the car, unlike in stock form, now doesn't even need to down shift when accelerating to overtake a 18 wheeler doing 70km/h, when the general speed on that road is 105km-110km. Speed limit on that road is 100km/h BTW.

Ask him to go back to stock tune? He will tell you no way!
Will his engine and tranny "blow up" because he is making proper use of his properly modified car? I seriously doubt it.

Interestingly enough, the true test if a mod is for real or not, whether it be strut bar or engine tuning, is not when upgrading, but when downgrading back to stock again after elapsed time. I remember reverting my Passat TDI back to stock tune when I sold it to a gentleman. I was like my God, I could never have driven it like this at all..I also remember taking the strut bars off (both front and rear) on my BMW after having driven with them on for over a decade. I could literally feel the chassis flexing without them on. It was appalling, but interesting nonetheless how reverse order sometimes makes certain observations all the more clear.



 
I have a 2000, thinking of selling it for a 3000...just sayin if anyones interested :D

And yes you can twin them up, but only US models (not Canadian models). there is a master and slave model, about 50 bucks difference between the two. Had a long chat with Siberian about this before he bought his, I had been running the tandem setup for my camper. A Nice sub 55db 4000W power station of my own :)
I might shoot you a PM...but isn't that price a tad too high? :confused:



 
I might shoot you a PM...but isn't that price a tad too high? :confused:
He's referring to watts. The models sell based on peak watts produced, not continuous. 1600/2000 peak watt model or the 3000 peak watt model, by Honda.

Given a choice, I would prefer to have nothing but 1000i models. The 2000i models are much noisier, at all rpms, much, much louder pops under load.

I built a box so I could parallel a Honda EU1000i to a EU2000i for 3000 peak watts, to run my A/C unit on.
 
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I had the APR performance tune with my Jetta 2.0T and boy was it an awesome! Since it was a conservatively tuned gasser, APR were able to eek better numbers (+40hp and +100 torque).

I wonder if this is also for 2013s, although, hp isn't too big, but smoothing the curve might be nice!

it looks like it puts the 2011's on par with higher hp of the 2013's. Might better it slightly. I may have to look into this in the summer.
 
I might shoot you a PM...but isn't that price a tad too high? :confused:
nono that's not my price, i have a model 2000, I want to buy the model 3000, I sold off one of my 2000's and just want a single genny rather than the dual setup that I had before :). shoot me a text.

And yes I know hwy 50...Ideally I'd like a 638HP Corvette ZR1 when on that road.
 
He's referring to watts. The models sell based on peak watts produced, not continuous. 1600/2000 peak watt model or the 3000 peak watt model, by Honda.

Given a choice, I would prefer to have nothing but 1000i models. The 2000i models are much noisier, at all rpms, much, much louder pops under load.

I built a box so I could parallel a Honda EU1000i to a EU2000i for 3000 peak watts, to run my A/C unit on.
Thanks niner yes that's exactly what I mean :) If I could get 3 grand for my 2000 though I'd be a real happy guy lol.
 
Thanks niner yes that's exactly what I mean :) If I could get 3 grand for my 2000 though I'd be a real happy guy lol.
Not if a new 3000 is gonna cost you 5 or 6 grand...

My unit was practically brand spanking new that I bought used... on original oil, could not have been more than 1 gallon of fuel through the whole motor.... never serviced, air cleaner was spotless... I bought it for top dollar used at $700.... one not too scratched up without the hours on it, in mint condition, if you are willing to spend the time looking for them, go for $500 to $600 all day long. I picked up a lightly used, scratch free Eu2000I Companion with the 30 amp outlet built in, 2 years ago for $600 from an old retired guy that had a 35 foot 5th wheel. He gave up on boondocking and liked hookups and nightly fees more with cable and Wifi.

About a year ago, I picked up a near mint EU1000i for $350. Given a choice, I'd stack 3 little Eu1000i's in series all day long, they are much quieter, and easier to move around due to their weight. Save gas, and fire up only what you need, when you need it.

This is the market in the Los Angeles area. The stuff sitting on Craigslist forever, not moving, are there at $650 and above.
 
I would not want to fly a german built or engineered airplane or rocket ship to the moon.
Dude who exactly do you think got us to the moon?

And by-the-by, my early build '00 S4 turbos crapped out due to heat and bad bearings. Once fixed (with cearmic bearings) she drove like a scalled cat. And the '97 twin is still all original and still embarrassing youngsters.
 
Not if a new 3000 is gonna cost you 5 or 6 grand...

My unit was practically brand spanking new that I bought used... on original oil, could not have been more than 1 gallon of fuel through the whole motor.... never serviced, air cleaner was spotless... I bought it for top dollar used at $700.... one not too scratched up without the hours on it, in mint condition, if you are willing to spend the time looking for them, go for $500 to $600 all day long. I picked up a lightly used, scratch free Eu2000I Companion with the 30 amp outlet built in, 2 years ago for $600 from an old retired guy that had a 35 foot 5th wheel. He gave up on boondocking and liked hookups and nightly fees more with cable and Wifi.

About a year ago, I picked up a near mint EU1000i for $350. Given a choice, I'd stack 3 little Eu1000i's in series all day long, they are much quieter, and easier to move around due to their weight. Save gas, and fire up only what you need, when you need it.

This is the market in the Los Angeles area. The stuff sitting on Craigslist forever, not moving, are there at $650 and above.

Ok, thank you for that! You've almost got me sold on the 1000i units. I like the "Save gas, and fire up only what you need, when you need it" thinking here.

This will give me some leverage once the negotiations begin with NickM :cool:.



 
This is the market in the Los Angeles area. The stuff sitting on Craigslist forever, not moving, are there at $650 and above.
I was going to ask you where you were finding these deals!! I am in LA every 3 months or so on business, mind if I use up a corner of your garage for a few weeks to store a 3000 ;) ?
 
APR 3.0 TDI ECU Upgrade

I took my 2010 Touareg in to the dealer for the APR 3.0 TDI ECU Upgrade on June 15, and several times after that and still do not have the upgrade. For some reason my engine is an odd one out and can't be calibrated as APR designed it. On Thursday, July 9, the APR Engineers are supposed to arrive at the dealership and show the Techs how it is supposed to be done.
I am optimistic about this and looking forward to the upgrade. From all accounts mileage is supposed to improve, as well as overall improvement and efficiency.
 
I had my 2010 Touareg calibrated with the APR ECU and the performance has improved significantly. The Touareg is much more lively and takes off much more quickly than before. while driving on I65 on my way to Indianapolis, I gained speeds greater than 110 mph. I wasn't certain if I could hold it on the road at this speed so I backed it down. Having the work down was expensive, but I would probably do it again if given the chance.
 
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