What you aren't asking if anyone has done this before on a Touareg and if they did, what system did they use and who installed it. So far I haven't heard of anyone who has had one installed and with the very complicated electronics of the Touareg, I'm not sure many people will try this.

 

My guys at my stereo shop when they installed my DVD system and stereo system they Said Dont even think of a aftermarket alarm or starter. Im sure its possible but i would wait untill they make appropriate conversion kits etc.

 

Guys, I posted a question earlier regarding a GSM Alarm for my touareg but in reading this thread I am wondering if it it is at all possible to install an aftermarket alarm. was thinking of the Autocate 800 or the Rhino RAM. Not sure if any of these are compatible with the canbus system of the Touareg.

Anyone had any experience in installing an aftermarket alarm????

tezza

10 days to go before I pick it up

 

Remote starter

I don't think that you will find a remote starter even from VW due to the key intelligence use to allow the car to start. From what I have learned, if you don't have the right key for the right car nothing will work. Even if you have the premium package II you still need to be in the proximity of the ignition for the car to unlock and it still won't start until the key is in the ignition lock.

Scot from Connecticut
V6/ Xenon / K&N filter

 

I'm convinced that it can be done . . . with the help of Spockcat. Spockcat has taken us halfway there already by posting his installation of the keyless start. If spockcat would be kind enough to verify what pins make contact when the keyless start button is depressed, we'd be able to simulate this using relays.
The transponder in the key could be interfaced to the vehicle by creating an infinite loop circuit where we would use a small guage wire and wrap this around the ignition barrel 5 to 8 times, leave a 12 inch length then wrap a key 5 to 8 times. We'd end up with two ends of one single wire which would go to the normally open terminals of a relay. The relay would be energized via the remote starter to close the loop of the circuit we built thus sending the correct code to the OEM immobilizer. This idea has been used successfully in VeeDubs before.
So how about it Spockcat, can you test the switch and share your findings? Does anyone have schematics to the electrical system of these vehicles? [-o<

 

Reviewing the install procedure for the keyless start, I realized that it isn't necessary that the key be in the barrel but merely within the vehicle. Even simpler than! :drunk:

 

I recently checked continuity on the button's pins and couldn't notice any change. Plus, the button has a half push and a full push mode. Additionally, only cars with keyless entry have the antennas required to sense the key in the car, so even if you figure out which wires to contact, you can only install this if you have keyless entry.

 

FYI: I had remote start on my 02 Passat 4 Motion / v6, with no problems. I just asked an instalation person @ Circuit City who will install it with reasonable confidence (?)

04-V6-Leather-Monsoon-Xenon-

I LOVE this car, even though it loos as if I have a 'steeper motor' problem vibration with hard - slow speed turns.

 

FYI: I had remote start on my 02 Passat 4 Motion / v6, with no problems. I just asked an instalation person @ Circuit City who will install it with reasonable confidence (?)

04-V6-Leather-Monsoon-Xenon-

I LOVE this car, even though it loos as if I have a 'steeper motor' problem vibration with hard - slow speed turns.

Please let us know who the install goes on your Touareg at Circuit City and which model they install. You will be the first one to have one installed on this forum or VW Vortex's Touareg forum.

 

I own a 12 volt shop here in Montreal, Canada and I install a lot of remote starters on Touareg's, A6's and A8's. All use the same smart key module. I use Autostart product but can make just about any starter work fine. I use to modify the smart key module using 6 relays, 8 diodes, 8x 1k resistors and a cap, but have since found a better way of doing it. If anybody want's a module I sell them for $99.99 and they can work with any starter, an inductive loop ransponder bypass kit and programmed valet key are also required for the job.
I service 4x VW/Audi dealerships and have done probably around 60 to 65 install on these cars so far without any problem.

Peter

 

If anybody want's a module I sell them for $99.99 and they can work with any starter, an inductive loop transponder bypass kit and programmed valet key are also required for the job.
Peter

Peter - What is the install of this module like? On occasion I pass through Montreal but would be interested if this is something I could install myself...
Once you remote start and open the door X minutes later, what must you do before you can engage a drive gear? Do you have to insert/turn key or does it become keyless?

 

I own a 12 volt shop here in Montreal, Canada and I install a lot of remote starters on Touareg's, A6's and A8's. All use the same smart key module. I use Autostart product but can make just about any starter work fine. I use to modify the smart key module using 6 relays, 8 diodes, 8x 1k resistors and a cap, but have since found a better way of doing it. If anybody want's a module I sell them for $99.99 and they can work with any starter, an inductive loop ransponder bypass kit and programmed valet key are also required for the job.
I service 4x VW/Audi dealerships and have done probably around 60 to 65 install on these cars so far without any problem.

Peter

CNIS, can you tell us which models of the Touareg have been done? Do they have standard radio or Nav; V6, V8, V10; PP1, PP2 and so on.

 

I've done V6 & V8's some with NAV and some without. All use the same key system so all work the same. The only difference is the transponder pickup, either the key has to be in the car or the key has to be in the cylinder. Other than that the same rules apply.
I also use my kit to do the Porsche Cayenne and Audi A6 & A8's.

 

I asked about this when I first picked up my TReg. The service rep said they didn't do it, but it seemed that , by definition, you'd have to bypass the smart key technology somehow to allow the car to start. This would be deactivating the strongest part of the anti-theft feature of the truck. Didn't sound like a good idea, so I dropped it.

 

VW service rep's advise against because they don't understand the technology yet. Installing the remote starter will not disable the factory anti-theft system, it just introduces the right sequence when a remote start is made. The integrity of the factory system remains intact.

In Eastern Canada remote starters are a must so people will go to any length or price to have one installed. Like they say, "Where there's a will there's a way"...

Peter

 

VW service rep's advise against because they don't understand the technology yet. Installing the remote starter will not disable the factory anti-theft system, it just introduces the right sequence when a remote start is made. The integrity of the factory system remains intact.

Can you expand on this Peter? The key transponder needs to be present in the vehicle for it to start. This is a critical component of the immobilizer technology - preventing the car from starting, despite the phyical key, if the proper transponder is not present.

So, how does your solution work without disabling this critical component of the immobilizer system?

 

The way to do it is to take a programmed transponder key and use an inductive loop around the key and key cylinder, then we activate the loop with a relay. When the loop is open the car cannot see the key when the loop is closed the car can see the key and thus allowing the car to start.

It's a lilttle more involved then that as the car has to see the key sense powered at the same time as the key is introduced.

Peter

 

JI peter I have a 04 touareg and the starter got disconnected and now thy are going to reprogram the key and system. I order a new key and now they say it will not program, what are they doing wrong because now they want to replace Kissy. do they need to unhook battery for the computer can reboot or is there a after market product I could buy.

Thanks Paul Kelley LA, Cal.

 

Valet Key

Would It be possible to leave the valet key in the ignition and to get a remote start system for the car? sorry in advance if this is a stupid question.

 

The factory system remains intact because we only introduce the transponder to the vehicle when a remote start is initiated. The transponder code is fed to the vehicle through an inductive loop we place around the key module. The installation requires the valet key and a transponder bypass module.

My kits come with a replacement smart key module and interface, the transponder bypass kit can be purchased separately.

 

Please see my post on this subject
Club Touareg Forums - View Single Post - Remote starter

 

Kidd- I want to buy a 2004 or 2005 v6 egg but the remote starter is really a breaking point for me. I live in chi-town too and have had one in my last 4 cars. I can't live here without it. my current car is a 2005 honda pilot. I had it installed aftermarket at circuit city (like all of my other cars- by the way they but one in my old porsche too!) and they hid the valet key in the dashboard.
My question is- have you seen "CNIS's" posts? It makes sense that in Canada they would do this. unfortunately, all the people I have talked with around here say 'no way- don't do it'. What's your success rate? i just can't believe this is impossible but I can't afford an expensive repair if it doesn't work either. even the guys at Abt said no way. what do you think? anyone else? Anyone in canada on this board with a remote start installed?????
Thanks!

 

everyone listen to cinis he knows his ****. I'm glad to see someone is doing remote start on the tregs finally.

 

remote start technology!!!

Ok- here's what I found from an Audi site! The high end Audi people were trying to do remote start too. There's a company in Canada that makes a bypass:
2008 Volkswagen Touareg
This company is Fortin Auto Radio in Canada. The Audi owner that wrote about it said they paired it with a Compustar remote starter www.compustar.org.
Not sure of the entire price but apparently this bypass unit makes things MUCH faster.
So there it is! Now I have to see if I can find someone in my area who will dare touch the beloved Touareg electronics and install the darn thing. I'm not tech savy enough to do it.
Hopw this helps some of you!

 

I've dealt with the older compustar alarms/remote start, & I hated them. Chincy is the word I would use. If your doing anything alarm or remote start related go with DEI, directed electronics Inc.

 

Again, only use DEI alarm products...!

 

I got a quote of 1,200 bucks for the unit & install... equal to 24 30 pound bags of dog food... or about 8 month's worth

siberian

 

Has anyone been able to get a remote starter to work in a 2005 Touareg yet?