Can anybody explain the difference between VW's 4Motion and 4XMotion drive systems. Also which is applicable to the T1 & T2 Touareg Series?
4Motion Vs 4XMotion
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Got it...and that's what I'm looking for...now to find the technical manual on the system. Which will require a call to a good friend from back home
Completely understand the marketing terms VAG uses across the brands...which is why I am trying to get the true technical details for my specific vehicle, of which you have covered nicely. Thanks! I will always be looking for the specific details about the system and how it works as opposed to prior years. Being new to the Touareg community I am simply trying to catch up and learn the differences between the various models and systems that have been used now and in the past.
You could sign up to ERWIN and pay EUR 25 for a days access and download the Self Study Packages (SSP469 is the one showing the differences between 4Motion and 4XMotion transfer cases) and all the workshop manuals for your individual vehicle.Got it...and that's what I'm looking for...now to find the technical manual on the system. Which will require a call to a good friend from back home
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On the new Tregs the 4XMotion requires you to specify the Terrain Tech package for "true" off road ability. This gives you the all wheel drive and the transfer case with low range gearing and a 38:62 front/rear torque bias which lets you climb 45 degree gradients. It also provides a centre differential with 100% locking ability as well as a 100% locking rear differential.
The standard 4Motion has a transfer case with a torsen differential and a normal rear axle differential. Incline ability is now reduced to a 31 degree gradient
The standard 4Motion has a transfer case with a torsen differential and a normal rear axle differential. Incline ability is now reduced to a 31 degree gradient
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Rub it in why don't you larry .
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Hmmm.
MY2011-2017 (T3) models also have different biases for torque distribution.
If anyone wants to contact me with a discreet email address, I can send you a VW technical bulletin for the 2011MY vehicles that reviews all these technologies. It was produced for the dealer network as an answer guide. File is pdf and about 50 pages. Lots of diagrams and pics.
Regards,
Geoff
Probably not so much if On road. Off road is another thing. 4XMotion is not sold in North America after 2010MY except on Cayenne. All Touareg suffered waist tightening (lost 200 lbs) with this unilateral move. All Q7 use Torsten differential from the start. It’s about the anticipated use and cost and weight and gas mileage, after all.
MY2011-2017 (T3) models also have different biases for torque distribution.
If anyone wants to contact me with a discreet email address, I can send you a VW technical bulletin for the 2011MY vehicles that reviews all these technologies. It was produced for the dealer network as an answer guide. File is pdf and about 50 pages. Lots of diagrams and pics.
Regards,
Geoff
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I don't think it would make much difference on snow and icy roads. I use the off road mode and find this very closely mimics the behavior of a 4x4 with center diff locked. On road mode has the default 40:60 front rear split and the back can get a bit loose, although the esp keeps it in line well. Off road mode seems to eliminate this behavior and feels much closer to a 50:50 split and the car has a much better feel as it digs for traction.
My T3 4xmotion is 112 lbs heavier than a T3 4motion. But 434 lbs lighter then a T2
Do you have 4motion or 4xmotion?
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I’m not sure if this has been posted in this threbut it provides very good reading.
http://www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/ssp/SSP_302.PDF
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http://www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/ssp/SSP_302.PDF
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If you never put a 4XMotion system into low range, I suspect you will never notice a difference.
Low range is used for extra torque, speed control when going downhill (engine braking) and extra traction by locking the center differential.
If you never have a need for low range, the systems are pretty similar.
But if you slide off that icy road and need to get back on, the low range and locking center diff will come in quite handy.
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North America never gets nice things.
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It wouldn't surprise me if the Jeep Grand Cherokee eventually only have low range as an OPTION. Who knows, maybe that already is the case...
On the Grand Cherokee
I also own a 2014 Grand Cherokee Laredo... base model... base driveline is essentially the 4Motion driveline. Then there are upmarket choices of driveline that include a transfer case with low range. New Venture Gear, which supplies FCA, has multiple transfer case options for the Jeeps. So you can chose how you want to outfit your Jeep to a greater extent than the Touareg.
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i hit a deer a couple weeks ago and while my treg is in the shop i was given a 2017 jeep grand Cherokee limited...which has the quadratrac2 system with low range. I will tell you be it that it has all seasons on it im not overly impressed at all. The jeep does have a much better stability control programming if you do have inadequate tires or cant drive its very intrusive and does well at keeping control. However on the other hand the traction system is not up for letting you have fun the stability stays on even with tcs off.
It would be nice to try the jeep with better tires to compare to my treg, but when i got my touareg it had cheap Chinese all seasons and did amazing in the winter...this jeep not so much....Worst of it is how horrible it rides some how it is harsh and stiff yet floppy in corners. It rides so much worse then my treg even with 8 ply all terrains and 186k kms on it.
The 4motion system in my opinion with hill decent and 8spd with low first gear is super capable....the electronic diff locks work very well and with good tires this goes many places. We arent hardcore but my t3 goes every where my buddies t1 goes
It would be nice to try the jeep with better tires to compare to my treg, but when i got my touareg it had cheap Chinese all seasons and did amazing in the winter...this jeep not so much....Worst of it is how horrible it rides some how it is harsh and stiff yet floppy in corners. It rides so much worse then my treg even with 8 ply all terrains and 186k kms on it.
The 4motion system in my opinion with hill decent and 8spd with low first gear is super capable....the electronic diff locks work very well and with good tires this goes many places. We arent hardcore but my t3 goes every where my buddies t1 goes
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Im not saying the 4motion is as good as 4x but this video shows it can hold its own and is better then most awds in other brands....this is normal 4motion just with air.
I wish vw woulda gave us the 4x and air options but so many people judge vw before ever even trying a touareg
I wish vw woulda gave us the 4x and air options but so many people judge vw before ever even trying a touareg
2009 Volkswagen Touareg 3.0 TDI & 2008 Volkswagen Touareg 5.0 TDI & 2009 Volkswagen Touareg 4.2 FSI
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I came all cross to this page, that’s sucks for 2011 or newer doesn’t have 4XMOTION but glad to I have 2008 V10 TDI and 2009 V6 TDI have 4XMOTION system.
It is indeed, no 4xmotion at all in CR model either...if you want real slow speed crawl then we have to look elsewhere, plus the ground clearance is the lowest of all models now.
The new model is great in many other ways but not in that way.
So holding on to the V10 for as long as well
The new model is great in many other ways but not in that way.
So holding on to the V10 for as long as well
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