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#11,021 ·
nickyt said:
But, we also all know that DEF fluid will go bad. Not a question of if it will go bad, just the question of how long before it crystallizes out.

So, why does VW not mandate a complete flush of the DEF fluid every two years, regardless of mileage???
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It appears that DEF will crystallize in an aluminum tube in about 3-4 weeks, if it's not being cycled regularly - but I live in a very low humidity environment. Perhaps something to note for those who want to keep their Tregs for the long haul and only drive them occasionally.
 
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#11,022 ·
Stabone33 said:
I blame VW for not extending the warranty to the entire AdBlue system from tank to cat.
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IMO this warrants contacting the settlement attorney, Lief Cabraser, since I believe the extended warranty is supposed to cover the emissions system in full.
 
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#11,023 ·
Mythdoc said:
Stabone33 said:
I blame VW for not extending the warranty to the entire AdBlue system from tank to cat.
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IMO this warrants contacting the settlement attorney, Lief Cabraser, since I believe the extended warranty is supposed to cover the emissions system in full.
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The extended warranty referred to in the settlement which covers the "the diesel oxidation catalyst, the diesel particulate filter, the SCR catalyst, the dosing injector and other diesel exhaust fluid system components, all sensors and actuators, and any exhaust flap;" is only for vehicles that have received an approved emissions modification.

The extended warranty provided a few months ago is only for the AdBlue heater and a couple other components, with specific fault codes associated. P208E (injector valve stuck closed, bank 1 unit 1) and P2048 (reductant injector circuit low bank 1 unit 1) are not on that list.
 
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nblanton said:
Well, when everything up until now was showing close to $40K after the Bosch money, yeah I'm a little disappointed.

I'm sure you're not in my boat and one the folks talking about getting well in excess of $40K for yours. The thing is, I would have done something much different if I knew the car was going to come out break even at this point. I kept it much longer than I would have given the bs from this whole thing, maintaining insurance and payments while not driving it except when necessary to haul something. Had I known that it was going to be basically nothing on the vehicle I would have just sold the damn thing early in 2016 after the recall was announced. I basically felt I had to sit on it, given what it was supposedly going to be "worth" at the end of all of this.
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You are right, not in your boat. Ours is a 2014, no buy back yet but we plan to keep it, it is an amazing car and most likely one of the best warrantied cars on the road. I have been through your roller coaster of thoughts and emotions twice before. We has a 2012 jetta we drove for three years and got all of that back. We chose to upsize to a TDI passat also and made $7k in 6 months. I freaked out on the delays of the 2.0, worried about crashing it, drove it to Baja twice at 42mpg and it was 4K over for an oil change when we turned it in. Now it is but a distant memory and we love the touareg, even though the PO filed too. With Bosch we will get less then $5,000 but that is $5,000 I wouldn't have had and still loved the car. We just broke even on the Jetta but drove it for free for 3 years.

Drive it, use it, even race it! (I wanted to autocross the jetta but it was off season) The odds are in your favor, drive it like a rental because realistically it is a free rental at this point. If insurance pays to fix it you still sell it back and out your deductible, if they total it work with your agent as prices have gone up and I believe you can still get the restitution.

Have a beer and enjoy the small lottery we all won!
 
#11,025 ·
My 2012 went on a farewell off-road trip to Parashant / Grand Canyon National Monument and the Arizona Strip BLM lands. We did 340 miles off-pavement, with about 40 of that being pretty challenging. I scraped the bottom a couple of times and got some desert pin-striping, but nothing serious. My friends were driving a Unimog, Lifted Tacoma, and lifted F250 and didn't fare much better. The Unimog took the most damage. They were averaging 8-10 mpg while I got 21 :grin2: The Touareg is truly amazing and capable.
 

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#11,027 ·
nblanton said:
You know, I thought that was going to not be quite as bad as what it appears to be. But its Trump, so its actually as bad as it sounds. Wow, going off the deep end there.
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That's because you were reading fake news. If you read more accurate reporting, you will see that (1) he did not call the Germans "evil", (2) he said we have a problem, as others do, with the German trade surplus, and (3) he was not referring to foreign vehicles made in the U.S. but to vehicles, for instance, built in Mexico and then sold in the U.S. Not nearly as "bad" as that left-wing website made it out to be.
 
#11,028 ·
Is Trump the savior that right wing media is portraying? It's difficult to paint a cowardice narcissistic whiner as the man(used loosely) who will fix our country.
Let's face it, most vehicles made in 'Merica are void of quality, so why should a factory worker tightening one bolt, incorrectly, be paid $35 per hour.

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#11,032 ·
Germarican said:
Is Trump the savior that right wing media is portraying? It's difficult to paint a cowardice narcissistic whiner as the man(used loosely) who will fix our country.
Let's face it, most vehicles made in 'Merica are void of quality, so why should a factory worker tightening one bolt, incorrectly, be paid $35 per hour.

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An SM-G955U? I see that I am outmatched and respectfully concede.
 
#11,033 ·
Germarican said:
Just filed for compensation of my 2016 Touareg. I was surprised that the compensation was only 8700+. No real matter, as my wife loves her beast.

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I was dissapointed as well... my 2015 comes in at 8024.00 + 375 + the bosch 1500. It's free money and I'll drive it for the next 4 yrs until my loan is paid.

Cooper
 
#11,034 ·
It's not over yet ...

VW might be close to putting the U.S. scandal behind them, but it appears other hurdles lie ahead.

"France's consumer fraud watchdog believes Volkswagen earned 22.78 billion euros ($25.65 billion) by selling its diesel emissions cheating vehicles in the country, Reuters reports.

Local publication Le Monde first reported the news last week citing a file that was sent to national prosecutors by the DGCCRF anti-fraud agency. It is also alleged that by not utilizing technology that would have allowed it to comply with regulations, the German brand saved 1.52 billion euros ($1.69 billion).

The findings of the agency could be used by the Paris prosecutor to convict VW of fraud and the DGCCRF says its possible for the company to be slapped with fines worth 10 per cent of its annual income, approximately $22 billion.

Volkswagen has already been ordered to pay a $2.8 billion criminal fine in the United States in a saga which has already cost it well over $20 billion."​

Watchdog Says VW Made $26 Billion From Cheating Diesels In France
 
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#11,035 ·
My 3.0 Buyback Score to Date

- 2009 Touareg bought in 2013 has been processed and approved for review on May 18.
- 2010 Touareg bought in January, 2017 with a rebuilt title has been sitting without any review since the first day of portal opening
- Two out of three 3.0 TDIs in my possession were bought after September 2015, none of the previous owners filed a claim. That exceeded expectations by a mile.

According to Carfax the rebuilt title was issued 5/28/15 and sold on 11/13/15, so it shouldn't be am issues. Would like to hear more from other rebuilt owners navigating the buyback.
 
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#11,036 ·
I received my official offer this morning! Just need to sign and notarize and I'm good to go. Now to finalize my deal on my Wolfsburg ....
 
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FinallyTDI said:
I received my official offer this morning! Just need to sign and notarize and I'm good to go. Now to finalize my deal on my Wolfsburg ....
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...but there was no mail today?
 
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#11,039 ·
I got my offer by email today also. The buyback amount went up by almost $2000 as well. I have a 2012 Lux with 83,000 miles. The initial offer was about $39,700, new offer is about $41,600. I'm assuming it was the trim level issue that they corrected. They sent a 9 page document. The first few pages are the settlement offer that you need to sign. The last few are the release that you must sign twice and have notarized twice. Then you need to upload the whole package back to the site. I am planning to have it all done at work in the morning and uploaded before 10am. I'll let everyone know what I hear next. After the $1500 from Bosch, the total buyback amount will be $43,000 which is a more than fair conclusion in my opinion. The Touareg is a great car, but she's just sitting now waiting for the buyback. She's even lost her garage spot. Her replacement is a Tesla Model X, which is brilliant in a whole different way.
 
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