[SamT]

When I changed the differential oil I noticed the plugs use o-rings to seal. But you cannot just buy an o-ring at the dealer, it's $15USD per plug and it takes 4 for both front and rear differential cases.

And the oil drain plug on the V6? The crush washer is part of the plug so I cannot just change the washer like on other vehicles.

I of course reused them all the last time. Talk about sustainability.

 

[raneer20]

Wagner

What brand of pads/rotors did you use? At this price were they R90/TUV certified for OEM-equivalent performance? Did you have to change out the sensors?

How's the pedal force required to make the same stop compared to prior (OEM?) pads? Thanks.

BTW dealer cost is about the same as US ~$1000 USD.

Hi SamT,
Sorry for the late response the pads and the rotors are Wagner made,
I dont have the ansewr for your second question sorry.
I fell that the are better than the pads that i used to have.I managed to save the old sensors.
Hope this help

 

[SamT]

Thanks for the info. That's actually a very good deal for Wagner parts. In the US we're about $230 USD before shipping.

With the discussions on R90/TUV, you might want to try the Zimmermann anti-corrosion coated rotors (German TUV certified) and Pagid pads (Euro R90 certified) for about $290 USD next time, if you can find them at this price in Canada. The rears are a bit cheaper.

Hi SamT,
Sorry for the late response the pads and the rotors are Wagner made,
I dont have the ansewr for your second question sorry.
I fell that the are better than the pads that i used to have.I managed to save the old sensors.
Hope this help

 

[OILSLURPER]

Has anyone other than me checked this out for rotors? I've got various stuff off eBay for all my VW's and not had a bad experience. I note UK stuff is way chaeper than anywhere else I seem to look, even with postage:

Brembo Brake Disc VW Touareg 3.0 V6 24V TDI 04 to > - eBay Brake Components, Performance Tuning Parts, Car Tuning Styling, Vehicle Parts Accessories. (end time 04-Oct-10 21:49:39 AEDST)

 

[OILSLURPER]

Here's a PS to that last post:

VW Touareg Brake Pads - Comline Auto Parts

I've emailed this supplier for costing (shipped) for a fully OEM spec compliant set of rotors and pads for my 3.0 TDI. What is of interest here is that our $ is OK against the UK pound and better than the Euro rate. My instincts tell me getting parts from the UK may be better for correct spec product and total price. Commonsense maybe for Euro parts from Euro supplier.

 

[pjod]

Interesting Oilslurper
Had a look at the website for Comline and I am unclear as to where the pads are made and what specs they are made to. They say they are teamed up with "OE manufacturer Allied Nippon", but AFAIK Allied Nippon are not OEM for Touaregs. They may be for other vehicles but not ours - please correct me if I am wrong. I will be very interested in your response from them though.
However they may be just as good as any other aftermarket supplier. At the moment as my car is on a lease, the lease co has said while in warranty period I must get brakes done at the VW dealer. However they agreed with me that I wait till warning light comes on. Hopefully I will have the same experience as some others (such as Singh) and get another 10,000 kms plus out of them. Well you have to hope!

 

[OILSLURPER]

At the moment as my car is on a lease, the lease co has said while in warranty period I must get brakes done at the VW dealer. However they agreed with me that I wait till warning light comes on.

Warranty, understandable. But, this "brakes" topic affects a lot of owners. It would be nice to put in some more 'yards' and locate a supplier of OEM spec quality and good price. There's got to be a supplier out there to fit the bill. So, far, I'm not sold on a supplier. Cost out the full set of rotors and pads with some of the Euro suppliers and they ain't all that shabby. Shipping is the unknown. Dunno, have to keep asking. Don't ask; don't get!

 

[pjod]

Warranty, understandable. But, this "brakes" topic affects a lot of owners. It would be nice to put in some more 'yards' and locate a supplier of OEM spec quality and good price. There's got to be a supplier out there to fit the bill. So, far, I'm not sold on a supplier. Cost out the full set of rotors and pads with some of the Euro suppliers and they ain't all that shabby. Shipping is the unknown. Dunno, have to keep asking. Don't ask; don't get!

Agree that there must be a suitable alternative for us here in Oz - and again it seems that you are forging the path ahead for the rest of us.Bow Down

Brakes, underbody protection, bullbars, high air intakes, even small lift kits (50 mm or so) - all have to be imported or invented/fabricated by us customers (and thanks again to Singh for the spare tyre carrier adaptor for larger tyres). :idea: mmmnn perhaps an opening for an enterprising Oz member for a small retirement business (as VW Aust seems uninterested in supporting us). Any takers :-lll

 

[evaddirb]

Been there...........done that.

FYI have a sticky beak at the thread http://www.clubtouareg.com/forums/f67/brakes-28593.html

 

[SamT]

That website is "uk.com", not "com.uk". That in itself makes me suspicious. And Pjod is right, I don't think Allied Nippon is OEM even for Japanese car makers. There are plenty of substandard aftermarket parts around, I'd stay with known OEM or R90/TUV certified parts.

Two well known R90 certified pads are the OEM Pagid and ATE. Zimmermann rotors are also TUV certified. Some EBC maybe R90 but not all. The eBay Brembo prices are higher than what we can get in the US, but if that's still better then they should be fine. Because we can't really source Brembo branded rotors in the US except retro fit kits.

Here's a PS to that last post:

VW Touareg Brake Pads - Comline Auto Parts

I've emailed this supplier for costing (shipped) for a fully OEM spec compliant set of rotors and pads for my 3.0 TDI. What is of interest here is that our $ is OK against the UK pound and better than the Euro rate. My instincts tell me getting parts from the UK may be better for correct spec product and total price. Commonsense maybe for Euro parts from Euro supplier.

 

[SamT]

Instead of questionable/poor-performing aftermarket parts (those that are non-R90/TUV certified), how about online VW dealers?

If not in Oz maybe in the US or other nearby countries accounting for shipping cost and VAT/GST? These would be genuine Brembo/Pagid or ATE parts instead of ones with funny looking E-marks that I would avoid with a 10-metre pole. (I personally know only of "E1" (Germany) and "E11" (UK) marks and no others).

A fellow member mentioned one online dealer here giving 27% off OEM parts. But I imagine shipping cost and proper packaging for the long trip need to be clarified.

 

[OILSLURPER]

Are VW dealers overcharging for parts? Probably, definately....yep! But, what about a comparison with say a Prado or Pajero for the same parts? Rotors and pads. Perspective is a wonderful thing!

 

[seafarer28]

I do know of an Aussie dealer that will sell parts direct at a discounted price on a case by case basis.
He understandably won't give you a good deal if you happen to be in his area for obvious reasons.
To give you an idea I was quoted $1560 for a compleat set of OEM pads, rotors and sensors to do all corners of my V6TDI, pretty good I thought (plus freight of course).
Shoot me a PM if you want his contact details.
Tony

 

[OILSLURPER]

To give you an idea I was quoted $1560 for a compleat set of OEM pads, rotors and sensors to do all corners of my V6TDI, pretty good I thought (plus freight of course).
Shoot me a PM if you want his contact details.
Tony

I've just emailed our local VW sales manager, requesting price for a full set of OEM rotors and pads. He should give me 'mates rates' prices as I directed a lot of commercial business to him. I'll let you know what they cost. Will be interesting to see if your price and mine are close. If they are, then that's what they cost.

 

[SamT]

I've asked Capitol Volkswagen to chime in with shipping to Australia. We'll see.

 

[SamT]

In the US OEM over-the-counter VW rotors (330mm), pads and sensors (about $900-1,100), vs an OEM set online for about $900 (non-VW store) not much advantage obviously, vs aftermarket Zimmermann rotors, Pagid pads and sensors (~$650 shipped US). Capitol prices were old (Jan 2010).

Are VW dealers overcharging for parts? Probably, definately....yep! But, what about a comparison with say a Prado or Pajero for the same parts? Rotors and pads. Perspective is a wonderful thing!

 

[SamT]

I've asked nltomba to join about international shipping from US.

Hey, inquiring minds want to know.

 

[OILSLURPER]

As I was nearby, I've just come back from a 'cold call' at the local VW parts counter. These are the quoted retail prices for my VIN on a V6 TDI:

FRONT SET:
LH disc 7L6615301N $203.28
RH disc 7L6615302N $203.28
Brake pad 7L6698151E $288.74 (set)
Wear sensor 7L0907637 $65.78 (2 off)

REAR SET:
Disc 7L8615601C $354.10 (2 off)
Brake pad 7L6698451B $187.10
Wear sensor 7L0907637C $65.78

Total with GST (that's tax for you US guys) = $1504.95. Parts fella said he gave me a "bit off" normal prices.

I may get a bit more of a discount after a costing from the sales manager..... I'm being sneaky by doing this, as I should get a better price if he's "looking after me". Anyway, I suggest we are looking at $1500 for a full parts kit as a benchmark in Australia for OEM/genuine parts.

Getting parts overseas has its hassles. The least of which is the quality of the parts. There is already debate in the thread and other threads on this forum about 'brakes' and the quality of pads and rotors, and friction and dust etc. If parts are to be quoted from the US or UK, then to me, it's gotta be "apples with apples", otherwise it's a risk. Especially if you want to send 'em back.........don't see that being viable!

Just my opinion.

 

[OILSLURPER]

Been there...........done that.

FYI have a sticky beak at the thread http://www.clubtouareg.com/forums/f67/brakes-28593.html

Valid point as I now recall having a read through this prior. So, the same issue is still here. Other's are getting parts non-OEM and the job done for $X and others for $Y using OEM and dealer fitting rates. There is huge variation. I think DIY is the way I'll go. Labour will always kill savings unless you get the parts and fitting at the one source with a discount. There's no "right" answer to this. eBay is still an option for parts and other sources on this thread. But, it's all about doing your homework.

 

[SamT]

Ouch!

Right, mail order does has its disadvantages, even locally. I buy plenty myself and things happen once in a rare while. But I want to see what Capitol can do (genuine VW parts BTW) in terms of pricing. At least the old Capitol price in January was about $650 before shipping/tax. BTW Capitol VW is a ClubTouareg member and a VW dealer.

And nltomba should give an idea about international shipping. I'm not affiliated with them and have no plan to use their services (sorry, but no conflict of interest), just want to find out the cost issues of getting genuine parts to Oz.

Also, ecstuning.com (another ClubTouareg member) using the part numbers, trying to double check "Manufacturer: Genuine VW" parts, but site is down now.
LH disc 7L6615301N $114.64 ($122.9 AUD)
RH disc 7L6615302N $114.64 ($122.9 AUD)
Brake pad 7L6698151E $99.95 (set) ($107.2 AUD)
Wear sensor 7L0907637 $50.28 (2 off) ($54 AUD)

But again, as I stated, my concern is about shipping cost for heavy items over long distances and arriving in good shape.

As I was nearby, I've just come back from a 'cold call' at the local VW parts counter. These are the quoted retail prices for my VIN on a V6 TDI:

FRONT SET:
LH disc 7L6615301N $203.28
RH disc 7L6615302N $203.28
Brake pad 7L6698151E $288.74 (set)
Wear sensor 7L0907637 $65.78 (2 off)

REAR SET:
Disc 7L8615601C $354.10 (2 off)
Brake pad 7L6698451B $187.10
Wear sensor 7L0907637C $65.78

Total with GST (that's tax for you US guys) = $1504.95. Parts fella said he gave me a "bit off" normal prices.

I may get a bit more of a discount after a costing from the sales manager..... I'm being sneaky by doing this, as I should get a better price if he's "looking after me". Anyway, I suggest we are looking at $1500 for a full parts kit as a benchmark in Australia for OEM/genuine parts.

Getting parts overseas has its hassles. The least of which is the quality of the parts. There is already debate in the thread and other threads on this forum about 'brakes' and the quality of pads and rotors, and friction and dust etc. If parts are to be quoted from the US or UK, then to me, it's gotta be "apples with apples", otherwise it's a risk. Especially if you want to send 'em back.........don't see that being viable!

Just my opinion.