do u guys do as good as the epa says (something like 17/22) with v10 or better? let me know thanks
any gas v6/v8 can post as well
any gas v6/v8 can post as well
how many mpg outa your v10 tdi?
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I can get 25+ on the hiway. In town is 20 - 23. I do like to let it run.
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This may be a silly question but why do you put 2 stroke oil in every tank?
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Hi Hoodie,
To make a very long, long and debated story short: LSD Diesel vs ULSD Diesel has significantly less lubricity... Due to the refining process of removing Sulfur from the diesel fuel, it also removes a lot of the lubricity. Lubricity is the main concern in modern diesels, whether CRD, or PD (Pumpe Deuse). Obviously PD Diesels IMO are more sophisticated, and advanced VS other diesel engine designs, with injection pressures exceeding 25,000PSI. With such high pressures, there is a lot of pressure on the injection components (no pun). IE: if you can lubricate the injection pumps, and injectors, you prevent premature wear and replacement... The main problem with the new ULSD is that in it's raw refined form, with no lubricity additives, it is much more abraisive, and has "proved" to prematurely wear out injection pumps and injectors. I say that in quotations, as I have not had to experience this first hand, but from a lot of what I've read on Bosch's website, and on various other forums, the consensus is true.
There is an extremely long thread that you can read at:
First Time w/2stroke Oil - Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum
Also, Bosch (supplier of injection parts for VW Diesels) did a study about the lubricity requirements that need to be added to ULSD so that their components don't prematurely wear, and another long, but good read is at: http://www.licroc.org/Tech%20Articles/diesel%20fuel.pdf
I don't want to hijack this thread, so if you want more answers, we can start a new one and debate about it.
Good luck with the reading on the Cummins Forum website, its many, many, many pages long, and is slightly repetative. If you make it through all the pages, you will have the FULL understanding.
To make a very long, long and debated story short: LSD Diesel vs ULSD Diesel has significantly less lubricity... Due to the refining process of removing Sulfur from the diesel fuel, it also removes a lot of the lubricity. Lubricity is the main concern in modern diesels, whether CRD, or PD (Pumpe Deuse). Obviously PD Diesels IMO are more sophisticated, and advanced VS other diesel engine designs, with injection pressures exceeding 25,000PSI. With such high pressures, there is a lot of pressure on the injection components (no pun). IE: if you can lubricate the injection pumps, and injectors, you prevent premature wear and replacement... The main problem with the new ULSD is that in it's raw refined form, with no lubricity additives, it is much more abraisive, and has "proved" to prematurely wear out injection pumps and injectors. I say that in quotations, as I have not had to experience this first hand, but from a lot of what I've read on Bosch's website, and on various other forums, the consensus is true.
There is an extremely long thread that you can read at:
First Time w/2stroke Oil - Dodge Cummins Diesel Forum
Also, Bosch (supplier of injection parts for VW Diesels) did a study about the lubricity requirements that need to be added to ULSD so that their components don't prematurely wear, and another long, but good read is at: http://www.licroc.org/Tech%20Articles/diesel%20fuel.pdf
I don't want to hijack this thread, so if you want more answers, we can start a new one and debate about it.
Good luck with the reading on the Cummins Forum website, its many, many, many pages long, and is slightly repetative. If you make it through all the pages, you will have the FULL understanding.
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Hi, I believe that any ULSD that you buy at the retail service station, already has lubricity additives added back to the fuel, while the fuel truck is filling it's tank at the refinery, it is supposedly injected into the tank of the truck at the same time it is filled.
So, therefore, raw ULSD with no additives cannot be obtained, and 'should' contain adequate lubricity additives at the retail level. I just use straight TCW3 2 Stroke oil, poured into the my fuel tank before I fill up, and it mixes while the tank is being filled (1 ounce per gallon of diesel). I've been using it for atleast 18,000km with no issues with my injectors, or injector pump. In Calgary (Canada), Wal Mart sells a quart for $2.99, I just buy 6-10 bottles at a time, and it's enough to last awhile. I don't think it does much to improve MPG, perhaps slightly, as it is a lubricant to the upper cylinders. But I just use it as a precaution and insurance to premature wear, as I do have 10 injectors!
Anyone with a 2007 and up Diesel shouldn't use 2 stroke, as it may cause the DPF to clog faster, and cause it to regenerate more than necessary.
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New engine, only 1600 miles, and i am getting 17.2mpg city. I am also using biodiesel so that lowers the mpg's (i also put the pedal to the floor!). It would probably be 19-20 with regular. I am anxious to see how much i get when i drive to vegas next week.
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While were on the subject of MPG, can we also add the farthest distance travelled on one full tank of fuel? City / Highway / Mix?
On my 04 v10, 57,000km, the farthest I've travelled while in the city is 735km +/- (459miles). I was really trying to stretch the tank and granny footing it. When I filled up, I ended up filling 92 of the 100 liter capacity...
On my 04 v10, 57,000km, the farthest I've travelled while in the city is 735km +/- (459miles). I was really trying to stretch the tank and granny footing it. When I filled up, I ended up filling 92 of the 100 liter capacity...
G'day
I regularly use 12.0 litres per 100km
Until last weekend the average over 15k km was 11.9 litres per 100km
last weekend we played in the bush, used low range a lot and the consumption was 17.8 litres per 100km
Now the average has jumped up to 12.0 litres per 100km
Someone else can do the conversions to mpg and mpusg
Regards
Kevin
I regularly use 12.0 litres per 100km
Until last weekend the average over 15k km was 11.9 litres per 100km
last weekend we played in the bush, used low range a lot and the consumption was 17.8 litres per 100km
Now the average has jumped up to 12.0 litres per 100km
Someone else can do the conversions to mpg and mpusg
Regards
Kevin
i guess thats what its like to be a chemist! nuff said!
Good morning everyone
My first post.
In around city I get 12l / 100 km up to 14 l per 100 km.
At an average of 120 km/h (our national speed limit) I get 10,8 l / 100 km.
As an after thought my 2006 V6 Tdi used to give 10 l/ 100 km on the open road and 11 km/l in town driving. Excellent figures for a 2,5 ton Super SUV.
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My first post.
In around city I get 12l / 100 km up to 14 l per 100 km.
At an average of 120 km/h (our national speed limit) I get 10,8 l / 100 km.
As an after thought my 2006 V6 Tdi used to give 10 l/ 100 km on the open road and 11 km/l in town driving. Excellent figures for a 2,5 ton Super SUV.
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/Welcome to the club WP. Isn't the beast awesome
What color did you go with?
I have an 06 V10 with the DPF running B50. I get 20 mpg actual with mixed driving. I have taken mine to 470 miles but think that if it actually holds 26.4 gallons, I should be able to hit 580 on a tank. Although the fuel gauge on fillup doesn't have far to go to "E"
What color did you go with?
I have an 06 V10 with the DPF running B50. I get 20 mpg actual with mixed driving. I have taken mine to 470 miles but think that if it actually holds 26.4 gallons, I should be able to hit 580 on a tank. Although the fuel gauge on fillup doesn't have far to go to "E"
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'06 and '07 have the DPF. That was the reason why they had to wait for the ULSD to be introduced in the US before they could be sold here again.
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Matt, Thanks for the info... That explains why there was no sales of V10 TDI's in North America...
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