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Goodyear Fortera 265/70/17's

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#1 · (Edited)
I mounted a set of 265/70/17 Goodyear Fortera Triple Treads on the rig last week. This is for highway use. I did consider going with a more moderate sized 265/65/17 (30.6") size (hard to find); finding 18/19" wheel takeoffs (small tires, ugh!); or finding a set of Nokian WRs (nearest dealer in Utah). I am going with these 31.7's - retaining the same rough size as my BFG spare, odometer benefits, and same familiar driving height and clearance.

On first evaluation, these tires do feel a bit lighter and a bit tackier on highway pavement. I have not driven in rain or snow yet. Fuel mileage seemed better than the original Dunlops and slightly better than the big BFG's based on a 5 hour trip from Vegas to Phoenix. They are 5/2 ply - okay, but they look prime for a rock slice. Speed Rating is T - 118 mph, good enough for the 3.2 V6. Goodyear rates these 10s for wet, dry, and snow; TireRack puts them in the 9 range.

These should work well on light trails, but I am certain to remount the BFG AT KO 265/70/17's (on separate wheels) when the big trails call.

Some pictures for reference

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Goodyear 265/70/17 (31.7") Fortera Triple Treads

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Profile of these 31.7" highways.

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Gets a bit tighter when the wheel is cranked. But clears!

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The BFG's still have the meaner look. Good to keep'em for the trails.
 
#4 ·
Its a comfy ride.... Yes softer. Just felt better even against my recollection of the stock Dunlops. The BFG's are a heavier, more rugged ride. I'll be playing with air pressures some; the tire dealer initially had them pressured too low IMO and it was spongey at 32 PSI front. Now running 38 fr / 42 rear and had a good ride.

Is there any rubbing when your running these tires on a steel touareg?

They look absolutely great, what would you recommend for I larger tire for the manhattans??

Linder
No rubbing. Could be an issue in heavy snow or thick mud if all that gunk packs in.

I am not familiar with 18" sizes. I'd look at the outer tire diameter and tire width. I'll let someone familiar with 18's provide large sizes; tho if you are thinking offroad, 17" wheels are a better choice and can be had for less than $400 new, assuming you are not running the V10.
 
#13 ·
Unfortunately, these Fortera TripleTreads are only available in a stock 255/55-18 size, and a 255/70-18. The larger size ends up being 32.1" diameter, which may rub. I have seen Arkarch's BFG KO's (265/70-17 @31.8" diameter), and while that extra .3" of diameter doesn't seem like much, it may be just too tight and have clearance problems while the wheel is moving with the suspension under there. It may work, but I'd definitely say test fit it first if possible.

For the 18's I'd guess that the largest you'd want to go with something like a 265/65-18, which the BFG KO's conveniently come in @ 31.7" diameter. I'm not sure if the 18" wheel offset/width would cause any clearance issues, but theoretically, that size should fit.

Matt
 
#7 ·
I ran 18+ on a 250 mile run Vegas to Phoenix. It was 16.8 on the MFD, but I am travelling 8% further than the odometer thinks. I primarily drive highways and the larger size and Touareg gearing may work better on those 65+ mph hauls.

Mileage may be worse in urban stop-n-gos.
 
#8 ·
Whatever speed the speedometer, add 8% to it for the actual speed. Generally I'll run close to the posted speed on the guage and let the overage do the rest. Its counter to the usual 5% or so slower than speedometer speed you get on the stock 29's, where you have to meter faster than target speed.

I really think VW/Porsche engineers were designing for 30-31's, given gearing, speedo and all... and someone upstairs dropped the 29 bomb on them. Just my opinion of course.
 
#9 ·
Just a note, had it not been for having a 32" full-size spare and comfort with the aforementioned BFG ride height/clearance, a 265/65/17 (30.6") may be a more correct choice.

But for those who want the 32" full wheel-well look and dont want BFG "tractor tires', the TripleTred's are a pretty good all-weather alternative. The Nokian WR has a similiar tread pattern and dimension, and an H rating, so I'd include that on the hot list based on all the positive reviews here. Anyone running 265/70/17 Nokian WR's?
 
#12 ·
That size makes the speedo off too far for me. I am only off by like 1% with my tire size so when speedo is at 60 I am really doing 61. With Carl's size there is almost a 5.5 mile an hour difference. I think personally I would rather be close to correct speed, but that is just me. Incase others are wondering, I run 245/65/17 on my Treg and I like the ride on it much better then the stock size. But I am running the WR's as well, so that may be making the difference as well.
 
#16 ·
I run the good year fortera triple treads in 255/55/18 and these are H rated(130 mph).
So far after 15k it has been a great tire and it does not show wear yet.
I bought them after reading about them on tire rack and the fact that they should be very good in ice an snow compared to a regular M+S tire. They should last 60k, making the tire very affordable at $180 a piece
 
#20 ·
I saw someone with Toyo's,

You may want to start a new thread regarding those tires so its easier for folks to find the question. Buried here inside the Fortera thread, it wont be easily found.
 
#21 ·
Arkarch, have you checked the service dept. at VW. They may have a quick computer reprogramming for your different tire size. If your in the Vegas area check with James (Service Manager) at Findlay VW.
 
#22 ·
wish I'd read this before .... got a ticket last month being just over the magic speed to get stopped. 5.5% is the basic difference based on the tire size calculator. going 72 it made plenty difference to get a ticket at just over 75... :(

wrote a silly letter to the judge lat week to see if they'll reduce to keep off insurance reports but haven't heard back yet.
 
#23 ·
wish I'd read this before .... got a ticket last month being just over the magic speed to get stopped. 5.5% is the basic difference based on the tire size calculator. going 72 it made plenty difference to get a ticket at just over 75... :(

wrote a silly letter to the judge lat week to see if they'll reduce to keep off insurance reports but haven't heard back yet.

How about taking traffic school - that would keep it off your record.
 
#24 ·
ah jeese, really? Good idea although I didn't ask. Maybe they will suggest it as an option..... I doubt it's all that much time and could keep my rates down for three years on three vehicles.
 
#25 ·
I got pinched a couple years back: $190 speeding ticket if I mailed it in. I went to the courthouse to pay it, and it went down to $90 just by showing up to deal with it in person. While there paying it at the counter, I signed up for the "online traffic school" for $35, which is basically some reading and a multiple-choice online form after the reading. It took me under an hour once I got back to my office and got online. It made the ticket a non-moving violation (like a parking ticket) instead of a speeding ticket, therefore keeping it off my insurance, and the points off my driving record.

Good luck,
Matt
 
#26 ·
Nevada has a take-home kit.?. good to know.

Its been a long time since I got ticketed.

As for the tires, I know the margin so I drive accordingly. I dont mind it at all.
 
#27 ·
Nevada has a take-home kit.?. good to know.
Actually, it was all on-line. I may have brought home a login code, but I really don't recall, as it's been 3 years or so ago.

Matt
 
#28 ·
I have considered 265/65/17's for my 2006 V6, but have been told that it can play havoc with ABS and TPMS (which I don't have.) Is this true?

I've also been considering the BFG TA/KO's as an only tire. Do you think that they would be too much for all-around (only sometimes off-road) use?

Thanks!

Matt
2006 V6
 
#29 ·
I have considered 265/65/17's for my 2006 V6, but have been told that it can play havoc with ABS and TPMS (which I don't have.) Is this true?...
BINGO! I went to price the Fortera's and they told me at GoodYear they would not put in the larger diameter because of the problems they can cause with the ABS. According to GYear the ABS counts revolutions and are programmed for a certain diameter. He showed me a diameter book they follow strictly.

I don't know for sure if this is all BS but I am not taking chances unless someone can prove otherwise.
 
#30 ·
As long as the wheels all rotate at the same speed, meaning the tires are the same diameter, I don't see why the ABS module would care. I don't have TPMS, but don't really know what kinds of issues there could be with tire pressure monitoring due to a larger size. Pressure is pressure, so I really don't see what the problem could be.

Matt