Well, like I said, my tentative agreement was I offered $1000 over invoice for a special order 2010, they countered with $1500, I said we could probably meet half way but then they shocked me with the ridiculous finance and lease terms and we've got a bullet proof credit rating.
So, talked to several lease companies, and have hired one in particular that not only got me a comparitively great rate but feels confident he can shop my build sheet around for a better deal that of course I'll at least give my local dealer a chance to match.
For those willing to get raped on price, I applaud your willingness to "help the economy" but like I said previously, shop around not only for the deal but for finance and/or lease terms that are fair since VW ain't offerin' nothing on these. They are out there if you've got an appropriate credit score.
Of course, it is true that I don't actually have the vehicle yet . . .

Something could still screw this up somehow.

Better not or I'm through.
My dealer originally said these TDIs would demand $5-7K over MSRP until I offered $1000 over invoice, then I got the $1500 counter offer.
With the fuel prices back down, premium pricing on these is going to be a hard sell. That's why I want to get this bad boy in my garage before the next fuel price raping occurs. You know it will happen eventually.