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09 TDI Purchase & Inital Impressions

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#1 ·
Since I don't meet the "review" section posting criteria (less than 3k miles), I thought I'd throw this in "general." Mods, feel free to move it.

As some of you know, I have been searching for the right, low-mileage and right color combo, 2008 v10. After missing out on several (by just hours on a few) I tried to negotiate a new one out of Chicago. I never got it lower than 60k and that was just too much. It appears as though the big flood of exec lease return 08s has dried up and I had to do something soon. I went and drove an 08 v10 in my town (wasn’t an option because of a lemon title) and, of course, I was blown away. Super fast and decked out with options. I then drove right over to the dealer and drove the 09 v6 TDI. While there is an obvious difference, the 09 TDI is still an impressive engine and I decided it had plenty of power.

For an SUV, this thing is fast! No, not v10 fast, not Cayenne fast, but fast. Had there never been a v10 made, we'd all be real impressed with the v6 TDI. It does exhibit some turbo lag and even my wife says "it takes a second to kick in." The power is not linear either, from a stop sign, you haul ass up to about 40 then it's slower getting up 70. Sport mode does seem to help with around town driving. Diesel noise/smell is non-existent. My wife had no idea it was diesel until I mentioned it. Funny, I kind of wish there was a little more turbo woosh or growl to it. It does run very hot, not in a troublesome way, but it raises the garage temperature a good 10 degrees if I don't leave the door open when we pull it in!

Our’s doesn't have air-suspension and that was a must-have for me. I couldn't wait for a 2010 and there were no 09's so equipped. I have a Jeep Rubicon for off-road and, while I know I'll miss it, on-road the steel set-up is not bad at all. It rocks into corners but then holds a line really well. Once you realize this, you can really throw it into a curve and have confidence it’ll hold. In then end, I started comparing what I COULD get (an 09 TDI without air or RDL) with what other diesel options were on the market (ML320, X5, Q7, and Grand Cherokee). When I looked at it that way, the Treg was my favorite option and a good fit for my family. If only I didn't know what I was missing.

Our’s has Lux, Tech, BT, 19” Terras, and I had the hitch added at delivery. The new radio/nav unit is very nice and would have been a "must-add" for me if I had bought an 08. The IPod control alone is worth it and, although I rarely use the navigation section, the touch screen radio control, back-up camera, and color MFD were all good reasons to buy the Tech pkg. I haven't had a chance to try out the nav or bluetooth options yet. I have ordered a Euro headlight switch and will be looking for someone to Vag-Com the daytime running lights. It's totally unacceptable to me that there's no way to disable them, especially considering that they're xenon. The Xenon's themselves are a worthwhile upgrade and are excellent at night.

Aside from the DRLs, my only other BIG beef is with the lack of a memory seat option ON A $51,000 VEHICLE!!! I mean COME ON! I am looking into a way to retro-fit it, but have my doubts. That is total crap and real pain in the rear considering our previous car had it at half the cost of the Touareg. What doesn’t now, even my parent’s Rav4.

I have not had to deal with the adBlue. There does not seem to be an “emergency refill bottle” in mine (on my list to ask the dealer about) and only time will tell if I'll regret not having the simpler v10 in that regard. The extra gas mileage will be nice though. In all, not finding an 08 v10 I gave up: quad climate control, air, rdl, memory seats, and unbelievable power. I gained the new touchscreen nav with iPod integration, 5mpg, a $1300 tax credit, new car finance rates, and free standard maintenance for 3yrs. If I had it to do again, I'd still want a v10 but probably still buy a v6 TDI if I couldn't find a v10. I feel better since no more 08's have popped up since I bit the bullet. Makes me a little sick to read the new 2010 order posts with air suspension, but waiting until October wouldn't have been an option for us anyway.

We're proud of our new TDI Treg and it's way better than all the alternatives we considered. An impressive vehicle that, really, is only outdone by it’s own teammates.
 
#2 ·
My impression of a recent V6 TDI test drive was very similar. Not having driven a V10 myself, I was very pleased with the performance. (Ignorance is bliss.) As a highway daily driver, I'm also looking forward to the nearly 30 mpg mileage that can apparently be expected.

I went through the same rationalization about competitors. Even with air looking like a no-show until a couple of weeks ago, I would probably have ordered a 2010 anyway. It still would have been the only one among the 2010 diesel choices that wasn't a softroader (although not as good as before if no air).

Interesting observation about the heat it throws off, I'll keep that one in mind.

Best of luck with it!

--schubie
 
#5 ·
It does run very hot, not in a troublesome way, but it raises the garage temperature a good 10 degrees if I don't leave the door open when we pull it in!
I feel the same way about by 08 V8. They seem to run extremely hot. You are right about the garage. I have to leave the door open about 15 minutes, just to be sure that she cools down a bit. :)
 
#6 ·
If you think that V6 TDi is impressive now, wait until you put 10K miles on it, SHE WILL WAKE UP! I sometimes hated my Grand Cherokee CRD until it broke in a little and became a totally different beast. Easy to spin up, more economical, little louder on a turbo whistle and definitely more power.

Also, after looking at 09 TDi's engine bay, I noticed how much extra room there is, even compared to Crang Cherokee with OM642 motor. Being so popular around the works, T-reg will have tons of aftermarket to make V6 TDi faster and more fun.
 
#9 ·
If you think that V6 TDi is impressive now, wait until you put 10K miles on it, SHE WILL WAKE UP!.
I find any diesel I've only only hits its stride after around the 50K mark...fuel economy improves, they get quieter, run better...basically everything is better with mileage on a diesel!
 
#8 ·
It's totally unacceptable to me that there's no way to disable them, especially considering that they're xenon. The Xenon's themselves are a worthwhile upgrade and are excellent at night.

Are you sure you can't disable DRL in the MFD settings? Mine were off and I turned them on via the settings menu.
 
#10 ·
Iphone interface

Hey Skycamscott........I have an 09 with the same options. So far so good with 200 miles on it. Are you hooking up your ipod with the aux input under the armrest or with the media input in the glovebox? My iphone works fine with the aux input and i can control the volume with the controls on the wheel but nothing else (cant change the songs, etc...) What can I do with the media input in the glovebox?
 
#12 ·
Hey Skycamscott........I have an 09 with the same options. So far so good with 200 miles on it. Are you hooking up your ipod with the aux input under the armrest or with the media input in the glovebox? My iphone works fine with the aux input and i can control the volume with the controls on the wheel but nothing else (cant change the songs, etc...) What can I do with the media input in the glovebox?
I'm using the media input in the glovebox, but you can't use the USB adapter that comes with it. That's only for a flashdrive. I bought the $43 000051446C part from my VW dealer and it allows full control of the i-pod through the RNS510 Touch Screen just like on the ipod. Very slick. I've not tried an iPhone, but I would think it would work as well, at least for the music functions. Another board member did mention that, if you use random/shuffle mode, you have to put it back in shuffle each time you power-up the MFD.
 
#18 ·
Needs to be programmed via the Vag-Com cable. Check Ross-Tech or find someone local who can do it for you. I believe there is a section here on ClubTouareg to match up with folks who have the software and cable.