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Discussion starter · #61 ·
OK got some weights at the local post office dropping off some stuff this evening...

Stock GTB and GTD turbines both weigh in at roughly 153 grams.

The special sauce bigger turbine wheel is suppose weigh in at ~120 grams.

The larger MFS billet compressor wheel for the GTB2260 weighs ~53.86 grams

The stock TiAL MFS GTD billet compressor wheel (bigger than upgraded above GTB2260 wheel) weighs in at 68 grams

I think i'm going to get one of the new gen II style MFS wheels that will slightly larger than the GTD compressor wheel
 
Discussion starter · #62 ·
Pic borrowed from NTDI's thread.

So imagine the same top end flow but having a faster spool up time due to a lighter turbine wheel, ceramic ball bearing, and the same GTD VNT assy.

This is what i'm going to build...

I think i'm going to do a larger all out size, and another slightly smaller one based on the GTD2263 for people that want something between the GTB2260 below and the GTD2872 also listed below.
 

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yrktreg said:
Pic borrowed from NTDI's thread.

So imagine the same top end flow but having a faster spool up time due to a lighter turbine wheel, ceramic ball bearing, and the same GTD VNT assy.
I think I'm going to do a larger all out size, and another slightly smaller one based on the GTD2263 for people that want something between the GTB2260 below and the GTD2872 also listed below.
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Any idea when you'll have something ready to try?
 
Discussion starter · #66 ·
TheChunknorris said:
Damnnn this is great news.
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I'm excited!!

Going to ceramic ball bearing add some cost and complexity to it, but I think it is worthwhile.

I'm going to have different compressor wheel sizes and style based on the desired goal.

So smaller and different design for low end focus while still having good flow up top, and larger and again different design for all out power.:nerd:
 
Discussion starter · #68 ·
Received the new turbine wheel yesterday, and ordered 2 more today along with the new style MFS compressor wheels.

I'm going to build 3 of these to start with. 2 for Touaregs and 1 for a Q5.

That way Malone will have a decent database to work from :D

Now i'm just waiting on the final parts to show up.

Since the 3 people (myself included) are all looking for around 400hp I went with a compressor wheel capable of supporting this, and we will see how spool is for anyone else looking for something with either a tad more top end, or more low end for towing as we can go bigger or smaller from here...
 
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TheChunknorris said:
I'd like to see what you come up with price wise as well. Will you be detailing the supporting mods?
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Yes, need to start working on CP3 pump upgrade now...

I'm thinking that it is going to come in at around 1400-$1500

This is with ceramic ball bearing, gtd vnt assembly, MFS compessor wheel (alcoa aluminum made in Lancaster, PA LOL), special turbine wheel, etc...
 
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yrktreg said:
This is with ceramic ball bearing, gtd vnt assembly, MFS compessor wheel (alcoa aluminum made in Lancaster, PA LOL), special turbine wheel, etc...
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So this is an assembled turbo with new turbine housing, compressor housing, ball bearings, new TiAl wheel, VGT and billed compressor wheel.

Balance service included.

What about turbine housing paint or ceramic coating?

Any idea what a tune will be to get the full benefit of the upgrade,
 
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NTDI said:
yrktreg said:
This is with ceramic ball bearing, gtd vnt assembly, MFS compessor wheel (alcoa aluminum made in Lancaster, PA LOL), special turbine wheel, etc...
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So this is an assembled turbo with new turbine housing, compressor housing, ball bearings, new TiAl wheel, VGT and billed compressor wheel.

Balance service included.

What about turbine housing paint or ceramic coating?

Any idea what a tune will be to get the full benefit of the upgrade,
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https://malonetuning.com/ecu-tuning/audi-volkswagen/tdi/30l-v6-tdi

As previously stated Malone out of Vancouver will be doing the Tuning.

Stage 3 should give you a good idea of pricing ($800 CAD).

Deletes are an extra cost ($250) as well as a Rawtek DPF/SCR delete kit ($950 CAD / $600 USD) and about 3 hrs labour....if you go that route ....let’s not start a debate on this one.

Catless Down Pipe would be extra...about $400.

BlackHaze makes a kit with catless down-pipe for about $1200 CAD

https://blackhazeworkshop.com/en/parts/v6_tdi_30_downpipe_midpipe_adbluedpf_off.html
 
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BBTDI said:
https://malonetuning.com/ecu-tuning/audi-volkswagen/tdi/30l-v6-tdi

As previously stated Malone out of Vancouver will be doing the Tuning.

Stage 3 should give you a good idea of pricing ($800 CAD).
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I think for now I'll skip the deletes. Tune wise is the tune specific to the turbo? I remember on my Mk4 BEW it goes in limp mode if it detects over boost.


Wasn't sure if it cares where the VGT position is commanded vs the pressure and mass flow it sees.


I guess I'd need a tune loader as well....
 
Discussion starter · #79 ·
NTDI said:
I think for now I'll skip the deletes. Tune wise is the tune specific to the turbo? I remember on my Mk4 BEW it goes in limp mode if it detects over boost.


Wasn't sure if it cares where the VGT position is commanded vs the pressure and mass flow it sees.


I guess I'd need a tune loader as well....
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Yes Mark will have a specific tune for this turbo both with and without deletes.

A flashzilla will make quick work of the flashing.

You can also have Mark do specific files for your for a few extra $$ like a towing tune, mpg tune, etc..
 
Discussion starter · #80 ·
NTDI said:
I'd request a good high temp paint on the turbine housing if possible.... I imagine POR-15 exhaust paint would be better than nothing (KBS is good but way more expensive). Or maybe Cerakote.... At least it would slow the rust down better then rattle can header paint.
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Was thinking the same 2 products. Have had great success with both.
 
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