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VWoA sent me an email soliciting my opinion about my recent service. If you are interested, please read what I wrote in the comments:

They were unable to reproduce one of the problems with the alarm as I sat idle in the waiting room. Instead of asking me to try to reproduce the reported problem for them, they gave up.
I asked to have the four wheel alignment checked, as the car was pulling to the left. Three times the automobile went back to the service area, and three times the automobile came back without the alignment fixed. Adjustments were made and I was asked to drive it twice to "check it out." Twice I reported it not fixed. After the first time the automobile came back from the service area, the service technician and the service consultant also drove the automobile. The service consultant told me that he agreed that the automobile was pulling to the left when driving, but it still came back with the same problem. I was also not provided with the alignment print out that is produced by the machine after the automobile is aligned leading me to believe that the auto's wheels were never actually aligned using the calibration equipment. The final time the vehicle came out I was exhausted of waiting and ready to go home. Since your service center was obviously unable to remedy the problem, I left. Since there were adjustments made several times, I have no idea where the alignment of the four wheels actually is now. I drove the auto 100 miles home with the steering wheel 5 degrees turned to the right so that I could drive straight.
Additionally, the car was returned with the technicians dirty finger prints inside and out, and he changed my seat and steering wheel settings twice. I took the car in for a courtesy inspection, and I have no idea if they found or fixed anything.
When I bought my Jetta, this kind of service was unnerving, but acceptable. However, this is not what I expected after purchasing a $49,000 SUV. I had to talk myself into going with VW again, and the TDI was the sole reason for this. I am, unfortunately, already unhappy with the company again. I am already looking forward to 2013 when I will begin to fix this car myself as opposed to wasting my time at your dealerships.
 
You have vented, now do something more productive. Take your problem to VW customer relations 800-822-8987. If you have another dealer in the area I would just switch. I am not from the area but had good luck while visiting using Linsday VW of Dulles in Sterling VA.
 
You have vented, now do something more productive. Take your problem to VW customer relations 800-822-8987. If you have another dealer in the area I would just switch.
Agreed!
 
Sounds like your dealer sucks. I am sorry to hear this. Please have faith that we are not all a bunch of crooked morons... Only some dealers are. Sorry for such a bad experience. That is completely unacceptable!!!
 
I recently took my '09 TDI in for its first service (10k). The repair invoice stated that the tech rotated my tires and I know for a fact that they didnt get rotated because earlier in the week I bumped the curb and scratched the front left rim. I brought it to the attention of the service manager and he told me that he spoke to the service tech and two other techs saw him rotate the tires. Can the these dealers be trusted? I think not. VW service is no Lexus or Mercedes but I do love '09 TDI.
 
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You have vented, now do something more productive. Take your problem to VW customer relations 800-822-8987. If you have another dealer in the area I would just switch. I am not from the area but had good luck while visiting using Linsday VW of Dulles in Sterling VA.
Is it necessary to call customer relations as well? This was copied and pasted from the comments I submitted on the company's website.
 
Calling them gives you immediate and interactive feedback...website comments do not.
 
And has the same impact as wetting yourself in a dark suit. Gives you a warm feeling but no one notices ...

80} Sorry Nick couldn't resist after the number of times I've had them on the phone.
 
I dunno, I got a pretty good output from them when I called in when I wanted to drive my '04 V6 off the cliff....significant enough that I plunked down the cash for an '07 V8.

Just like everything else, getting mad gets you nowhere...telling them exactly how you'd like the problem resolved gets you further.
 
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The service manager from the dealership called me. He was very apologetic and wished to get the problems solved. I am scheduled to go back in a few months to get the repairs and a interior and exterior detail. Currently she is safely tucked away in the garage waiting for the next snow.
 
Nice to see you're on their radar. But it'll be interesting to see what kind of attention span they have. Hopefully, solving your problems will remain their top priority in a few months. Good luck!
 
Other frustration on my part.
Close to 3 years ago My 04 V8 had 52k miles, out of warranty and I had coilpack issues.
Dealer tried to rip me off with $52 a piece for parts, so I bought them from 1stvwparts for $23 a piece and installed myself.
Everything works fine since then.

Now these things are recalled but they will not give me my $170 because I cannot provide a receipt.I BOUGHT THOSE THINGS 3 YEARS AGO!!!
Even though these coilpacks have updated part#s.
Nope without a receipt no money they say. It would give problems on an audit.
So screw the customer?
So when it is time for my recall I will demand new ones. Cost VWofA more money than just giving me my money back AND they have an angry customer.

I also promised them that I would talk about my customer service experience with VW of A any opportunity I got.

In the automobile world one is not in a position right now to comfortably lean back and count ones money.

VW I guess will find out some day
 
Hi Medic92, If ever you find a good mechanic and a shop if you can share it with me because we have the same experience with the VW shop. Actually, I'm so pissed off with the VW dealer in Woodbridge because I just purchase my Treg last Dec 09 but I noticed something is wrong with the Treg then when I talked to them they told me to bring the car after a week then when I bring the car they did'nt fix it and they told me to bring it back after 30 days so that the extended warranty will kick in. Then last Tuesday, I bring back the Treg and they said I need to change this and that etc... but it's not covered by the warranty, and the agent told me to trade in the treg and I very much disappointed why why they told me that. So now I might find another VW shop that knows to fix the car. I also from MD in Bowie. Thank you
 
Here's a question for the administrators/supermoderators etc.

I know this forum is not affiliated with VW, but do any of you happen to know whether any VW reps actually visit the site?

In the Durango one, we organized factory visits, and tried (albeit a losing cause as can be witnessed by the manner in which Dodge ended up) to feedback to "corporate" the inmense repository of knowledge we accumulated over the years. It's safe to say, that we knew a heck of a lot more of what could and could not be done. We fed back problems ranging from ball joints (which were eventually after a 3 year battle recalled), battery problems, sensors, switches, pinion seals, transmission issues etc over the years. Can something similar be attempted here?

Having owned two Porsches in the past (356 and 911) I know well the feeling that "we know better", but Porsche always replied when we tried to feedback improvements etc.

I don't have a dealer issue, because my dealer, thank G*d is 400 miles away and there's no way I would drive across the street let alone 400 miles to go into that shop. And I've shared that repeatedly with VWNA and their West Coast rep Darryl. The latest being the stupidity of the dealer not wanting to lend a gun to do the recall for the spoiler. I had to go and buy my own.

Individually we don't count. But if start amassing signatures and we now are 200 or 500 owners feeding back it will be very hard for VWNA to ignore. I don't care if 500 cars in the greater VW worldwide scheme represents a drop in the ocean. TWO HUNDRED concerned customers are TWO HUNDRED customers and that represents 8 million bucks at 40k a pop.

Food for thought. Any Supermoderator care to share their thoughts?

siberian
 
Individually we don't count. But if start amassing signatures and we now are 200 or 500 owners feeding back it will be very hard for VWNA to ignore. I don't care if 500 cars in the greater VW worldwide scheme represents a drop in the ocean. TWO HUNDRED concerned customers are TWO HUNDRED customers and that represents 8 million bucks at 40k a pop.
I'd like to add my 2cw to this. VW should also keep in mind that quite a few of us are "repeat offenders" when it comes to supporting the brand. I'm on my 6th Dub and we've had 15 in the family since 1983. I'm stupid. I stick to them like glue, but some others might just take their future business somewhere else.
 
Like me, I was a MOPAR fan since my 68 Roadrunner and in 98 bought my first new vehicle the Durango. In 2000 I bought a new 300M for the CFO. Years of passing design flaws (seat rails, ball joints, window motors). Came time for new vehicles, I decided since the Bugatti Veyron dodn't come in the color the CFO wanted, a VW Touareg with 8k miles on it was less of a pain than a new Dodge.

And as Andrie said, loyalty is priceless; whether you're selling cars or shirts. And once it's gone, I know that other than a 71 'Cuda or Roadrunner you'll never see me in a Chrysler again.

Food for thought

siberian
 
I think they do read this this forum. They are smart enough to read it but ignorant enough it seems like to really do something about it?
It would cost them some money but if they paid attention they should recall the touareg for propshafts and valvebodies since they all go to shreds guaranteed but since they do not even want to pay me my $170 back for their faulty coilpacks? With an organization that backs its clients up you will get repeat buyers and new buyers.
Sure just blame the customer for not having his receipts ready after 3 years:( even though a 5 minute visit to the dealer can confirm that my coilpacks are not original and have updated part#s.

When you talk to friends about you vehicle they tell you to go buy a lexus or a Honda because you will not have an attitude like that.

Guess what. we needed a nice vehicle with good gasmileage.
Passat TDI or accord hybrid?
Needless to say my wife drives an accord Hybrid
Reading this VW?????????????
 
Re. Lexus. I will never buy one as it's neither my style of vehicle nor are they of any use where I live or my lifestyle. However, my dad bought a new Lexus. He lives in Spain and several years ago I went to visit and found that there was something amiss with the brakes.

I took it in to the Lexus dealer who promptly said, front and rear brakes need to be changed as they're toast. I said, NFW on a car with that mileage would the rear brakes be toast.

Not a word was spoken as the mechanic went to get the Lexus MANAGER. He directed the mechanic to remove the pads and explain in detail as to why given the weight and braking characteristics of the Lexus 300 this occurs.

He took the time, removed the used part and took the time to explain HOW the system worked, what Lexus' MTBF for brake usage was and essentially allayed any fears that this was a rip off. The work was completed on time, on budget and the customer left not only understanding the issue but feeling treated as befits a person who spends that kind of cash on a vehicle.

Any issues, were dealt with promptly and efficiently and though I doubt my dad will buy another car given his age, I know he'll never swear by anything other than a Lexus.

THAT is customer loyalty and is achieved by not only millions spent on R&D in developing quality cars that consistently outrank anything the US or Europe can throw at them, but millions spent in customer service. Something that is sadly lacking in the US car industry no matter what Ford or others try and palm off and given the scarcity of dealers across the US, non existent just about with VW.

So to conclude, perhaps the next time I have Darryl on the phone I'll pass on the url to this site and hope "management" will perhaps dedicate a couple of minutes per month to read through the knowledge base in this forum.

siberian
 
Yo 'tomba- you need to lighten up, bro!

You fixed your own problem. You're way ahead! VW isn't some ogre corporation just because you lost a receipt. It's how the world works: "No ticket, no laundry"!

Be glad that you fixed a stumbling, out of warranty engine for 170 bucks!! That's awesome. And don't let the fact that others might get theirs replaced for free make you jealous and pissed. You've run those coils for another 70k miles..right? do the math...a new design cost you .0025cents.

Is a VW all that bad?
 
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