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AutoZone and Advanced Auto do carry the D1S replacements but you should call ahead to see which store has the in stock. With a little notice both can get them from thier main warehouses. They're a little pricey though. Last I checked they were $138 each. You sound like your in a pinch for them but if you can wait I'd check with Geoff at Alretta Truck Parts, Inc. His forum ID is QPower1. The phone number is 508-788-9409. He could ship you a pair next-day. His price ir $150 a pair + shipping. Even with fast shipping charges you'll still be ahead.
 
I bought them on eBay but I don't remeber who the vendor was. I'll go look through my paperwork and see if I can find the name. I'm thinking of either getting the Philips from bulbs.com for $100 each or some from xtralights.com for $120 each. I've had two go out, but I had the one original bulb that I took out when I put the 2 new ones on a while back, so at least I'm not completely dead in the water. Anyone have a problem using bulbs. com or xtralights.com?????
 
Buy them from Geoff here on this forum $150 a set.
They are philips brand and very good
Screen name qpower
 
Go to this website: www.xtralights.com
You will find replacement High intensity discharge bulbs of good quality,
and fair prices. Choose the Color temp you like... they have a sample of
the light they will throw. Have you checked your automatic headlight alignment
system? They can't be too high, or you fry the eyeballs of your oncoming traffic!
 
Upgrade from Halogen

Hey Yeti,

Perhaps you or someone on the forum can help me - I have a V6TDI T2 2009 with the standard halogen headlights and they are pretty ordinary. Can I change the Halogen bulbs for wattage/temperature and/or can I upgrage the headlights somehow?

Thanks for your advice.




VAGing the passing lights makes a big difference on the highbeam side of things. I know it did on my 04.
 
thats a shame. I drove a 2009 v6 tdi for a few days and the halogens were pretty ordinary. Dont know why vw couldnt keep it the same as I had on my 04 Touareg. The halogens on it lit up the roads like the sun!
 
Hey Yeti,

Perhaps you or someone on the forum can help me - I have a V6TDI T2 2009 with the standard halogen headlights and they are pretty ordinary. Can I change the Halogen bulbs for wattage/temperature and/or can I upgrage the headlights somehow?

Thanks for your advice.
You can do HIDs, but it is not going to be cheap. I don't know cost since I never had to do it myself, but I am sure someone here who has can help you with that.
 
For some more detailed information on lighting halogen and xenon as well as the draw backs to drop in xenon kits in halogen headlamps see this site:



Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply

It explains everything.

Upgrading to xenon needs to be done properly with factory headlamps as a complete unit, not a cheap kit off ebay or some other joint. Not possible to get proper beam patterns.

Halogen bulbs can be upgraded to higher wattage if wiring can handle it and the reflector for the projection unit is METAL!!! If plastic you run the risk of melting it thus having poor lighting.
I would not use a higher wattage bulb but purchase a more high quality H4 bulb from Europe. Narva, Osram or Philips
PowerBulbs - Car Bulbs, Headlight Bulbs, Xenon Bulbs from Philips and Osram, including Philips Xtreme Power and Osram NightBreaker globes.
has a great selection of much better bulbs than we can get in the US. Stay away from blue coated lenses on bulbs.
I am sure a 65W would do OK, just don't go any higher and cheap ones don't last and do not provide good lighting. A good bulb makes all the difference.


There is much more to lighting than just putting in a bulb or slapping in a xenon retrofit kit (illegal anyway)- see bulb section on site referenced to see vidoes and explanations on this. It is a waste of money!

Flicker problems with factory HID's are typically moisture problems, or bulbs getting old. Replace with Proper xenon capsules. D1S is the proper unit to replace for projection style lamps like treg. I would stick with factory type rated ~4300K. More kelvin temp does not mean more light! It actually reduces night vision when up in the blue light spectrum. Stay with 4300K as it has more yellow in the color and much better for seeing at night. Philips usually has more white/blue which I myself find hard to see at night and I am fairly young.
Not sure what brand VW is but typically they are Osram which I find the best. More yellow/white. Over time they all fade a bit, loose their lumin factor.
Flicker reduces their life and you may notice the beam pattern fading. Once they flicker they will keep doing it. It is time to replace them.

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Hope that helps!
Jason
 
Thanks Geoff for the Xenon replacements. All went well, after i figured how to hit that release clip. Very simple replacement. If i have to replace them again it will be very quick. Nice to get rid of the flicker, and the annoying bulb warning.
 
Alfisimo, a very interesting dissertation on HIDs and Halogens. I have no doubt the author knows whereof he speaks. But as with most things in life, the theory and physics of it are sometimes confounded by reality. An HID kit does not, as the author states, contain the bulb and ballast, but should also have an ignitor. Yes, the reflective lens is of concern in terms of focusing the beam, but there are new anti-glare HID bulbs (which cost a few bucks more) that take most of the guesswork and problems out of it.

It's clear that a cheap kit off e-bay or from some cut rate re-seller (been there and done that) is not going to work. Neither will getting a blue colored or ultra white bulb come close to producing the light (lumens) that a proper HID will provide. If you get a good kit and install it properly, paying close attention to the bulb orientation when fitting into the assembly it works. It took us (Depiry and I) several tries and several sellers to get the right kit (I ordered mine from Europe) and the difference between the old H7 and the HIDs is stunning. Retrofits work, but you gotta know what you're doing, what you're buying and how you're installing it.

In the end you get what you pay for.

siberian
 
Alfisimo, a very interesting dissertation on HIDs and Halogens. I have no doubt the author knows whereof he speaks. But as with most things in life, the theory and physics of it are sometimes confounded by reality. An HID kit does not, as the author states, contain the bulb and ballast, but should also have an ignitor. Yes, the reflective lens is of concern in terms of focusing the beam, but there are new anti-glare HID bulbs (which cost a few bucks more) that take most of the guesswork and problems out of it.

No, The basics regarding HID technology regardless of what type of HID we are talking about is the same. D2S, D21, DS4, D2R etc... There are several generations of HID bases.
No matter how you look at it a drop in kit regardless of clever advertising and "anti glare bulbs" (LOL) cannot properly work in a halogen based reflector. A halogen bulb is a filament, HID is a arc type of light which has a different alignment and axis. HID is an expensive upgrade to most vehicles due to the R&D that goes into the lamps let alone the equipment. They need to figure out how to dispearse the emense amount of light in the proper areas without putting too much in front, too much at the 75m mark, to much up high/low etc...
HID is not guesswork. You either have them or you don't and with HID drop in kits into halogen reflectors, you don't have it.
The author is not some yahoo writing about lighting. I know him well as I have worked with him several times. He is a lighting scienetist and consults for the NHTSA, Automotive manufacturers, lighting companies such as Hella, Narva, Osram/sylvania and more.



It's clear that a cheap kit off e-bay or from some cut rate re-seller (been there and done that) is not going to work. Neither will getting a blue colored or ultra white bulb come close to producing the light (lumens) that a proper HID will provide.

My point is clear, any and I mean any HID kit for drop in into a halogen based lamps is garbage. HID only comes in D21, D2S, D2R, DS4 and so on. There is no such thing as a HID H4 lighting. Sorry. H4 is clearly Halogen base 4. Blue color bulbs will never in a 100 years come close to producing the lumens Factory HID's produce which is around 3200 LUMENS(H4 clear European halogen bulb- 1700 lumens, H1 bulb is about 1800 lumens, for reference) , Blue colored bulbs produce maybe 600-800 lumens at best. You loose up to 40% of lumens from a low quality blue colored bulb. The white is light from these is deceiving.

If you get a good kit and install it properly, paying close attention to the bulb orientation when fitting into the assembly it works.

Sure it works. But not properly. I can put a 500 Watt bulb behind anything and make it look OK! It has been proven time and time again that this drop in kit stuff is and never will be good, legal and or safe for you nor the oncoming drivers. It can't is is physically impossible. It can seem to work OK but over all you have too much light in front of the vehicle, blackholes in the beam pattern, glare which is impossible to avoid even with "anti-glare bulbs" (LOL), and low life span due to improper mounting, improper wiring, improper or low quality Chinese ballasts, capsules and igniters. Any capsule over 5000K is junk.

It took us (Depiry and I) several tries and several sellers to get the right kit (I ordered mine from Europe) and the difference between the old H7 and the HIDs is stunning.

Stunning I am sure. But again not physically correct. I just cannot be. It can come slightly close to the untrained eye but over all it is a terrible beam pattern and would fail any UK or EUROPEAN MOT test, in 2 seconds.
Buying retro fit kits from Europe does not mean a thing, they are all garbage.
Re-read his information, watch the video. The information is clear as factory HID's on a moonless night.

Retrofits work, but you gotta know what you're doing, what you're buying and how you're installing it.

No, sorry they don't. They seem to work if you don't know what your doing. In the end you do get what you pay for. Illegal, unsafe, improper lighting that would never pass a test in Europe nor in the US if all states had headlamp aiming tests yearly!

The Govt. and the NHTSA is cracking and has been cracking down on all HID retro fit companies. Have shut them down, made them take back their products and pay back the customers as well as HUGE fines. They have not got them all but I have seen tons disapear without a trace. One comes to mine HIDs4less. Gone! Why because the govt knows they are dangerous and the stuff should not be used.

The only way to properly have HID headlamps is the remove the halogens and replace with factory VW HID headlamps complete. Or as some have done, use a HID reflector unit and retro fit it into your current lamps to make use of the proper reflector and lens. otherwise anything else is sorry just not right. But if your Ok with that then theres no way to educate you on this. Most of the time it is hard to educate folks on this product once they bought them, installed them and saw all the wonderful light coming out of their headlamps. Not to mention the great advertising and before and after photo's right??? Right, another thing is you can never ever show proper headlamp beam patterns using a camera, I can adjust aperture and other settings to make it look much brighter, another clever tactic.

My suggestion is to re-read it. He is a lighting expert, not a automotive journalist with heavily biased opinions. He states the facts and thats it.



In the end you get what you pay for.

siberian

Sorry I disagree with you 100% as all you have said is incorrect and misleading to other readers. I have seen your post on this as well.

I have been working on lighting in the industry for a long time as well. HID is HID and one cannot be swapped for the other unless a complete headlamp is changed to a Gas Discharge headlamp. No other way!!!! Simply put!

Jason
 
Well, that was a tour de force!

One issue that I did not see mentioned is the concern that the government has over improperly adjusted or focused beams. HID bulbs throw a blinding amount of light that can distract any driver subjected to it, especially if deployed in a non-approved way. If these refit kits aren't accurately made and designed, then you are a hazard going down the road, regardless of one's best intentions...

Something to contemplate when thinking about all of this.

I would agree that a halogen Touareg owner look at the upgrade H7 bulbs made to leverage that type of lighting system, like the Philips CrystalVision Ultras. It's the only responsible way to proceed.

Geoff
 
Jason, I have installed a correct set of HIDs on my T2 and they work as advertised. I have projected the beam at a prescribed distance onto a wall as is standard for measuring height and dispersion and they fall within the prescribed area. end of story.

Clearly simply dropping it in, will blind on coming traffic which is why the horizontal and vertical adjustments need to be made. The rest is sowing fear uncertainty and doubt. If you know what you're doing you can be compliant with applicable laws.

siberian

PS HIDs4Less is the very outfit I returned their set and cancelled payment from my cc company. They don't work. As for the Government actually knowing what they are doing is an oxymoron.
 
No, you have not. Your not getting this. Please re-read the link I left below. There is no correct HID's for the T2 except for the ones from the factory, plain and simple. If these kits were correct for example, why don't OEM manufacturers offer them as accessories after the fact? They can't. It's not about money it's about physic's Filament refelctors cannot fit Arc capsules and produce the proper beam pattern for safe seeing at night. These kits reduce the 75m beam. You cannot see well at the most crucial part of the beam, the farthest out. Street signs lighting up way down the road means nothing either. Most are magnesium anyway and my Cell phone screen can light it up. That is in simple terms. HID is one source Halogen another, they never share the same reflectors nor lenses. Why? becuase they are totally different in design.

Cutoff pattern on the wall does not designate a good actual BEAM pattern. I can put a borad up to a flashlight and get the same effect.
Yes, to some extent with the proper lighting source in the proper reflector the cutoff is there to control the light from being above horizontal and blinding oncoming traffic. Again cutoffs are not what makes a good beam or headlamps. I do not care how precise it looks it does not mean anything except how close or far the cutoff is from the light source. I can put my lighter to the back of the headlamp and get the same nice cutoffs.
But if the improper light source (xenon in halogen) is used you get glare NO MATTER WHAT!!! The reflector is not designed for the light source.
I will be done with this as Your not really getting this. It's OK a lot of folks who have them don't. Try reading it again.

Thats great. Regardless of Quality of the HID retro fit drop in kits, They could be made from OEM parts as well, who cares? The point is you cannot have the proper beam pattern using a drop in kit of any quality in a Halogen lamp, impossible.


Good luck.
 
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