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I expect the restitution for the 3.0 TDI to be very different from the 2.0 due to the two tiers of vehicles. The Gen 1 vehicles are getting more money up front via clean retail buyback + taxes + owner fee ($720.) In that scenario Gen 2 vehicles with no buyback offer on the table will probably see a restitution relative to the 2.0, but probably not as high of a ceiling. While the Gen 1 might only be in the $2,500 - $5,100 range. The final settlement will probably have a buyback structure in place if the fix for the Gen 2 can't be approved.

The reason I see it this way for gen 1 vehicles is that if you calculate the value for your 2009 - 2012 Treg under the 2.0 settlement and compare that numbers from the 3.0 preliminary agreement it's relatively close. I expect the to-be-announced restitution to close that gap.
The 2.0 buy back didn't include taxes or other 'fees' paid at the time of purchase.

Value determined per settlement (Clean Retail) plus or minus option list, then mileage adjustment.

Every buyer was broken into a geographic region - with some regions having a higher start value than others.
 
So like others on here I have considered buying a new Touareg or Cayenne as a replacement for our 2012. When I asked our local VW dealer he claimed they had all been sent back to VW so that wouldn't be an option. Of course I always believe everything a car salesman says. One conversation has been; what will happen to 2013-2016 values? Well, perusing thru ebay I found a 2016 Exec Touareg listed as "new" with 1500 miles and a buy it now of just over 65K. It appears he is thinking they are of higher value?
 
The 2.0 buy back didn't include taxes or other 'fees' paid at the time of purchase.

Value determined per settlement (Clean Retail) plus or minus option list, then mileage adjustment.

Every buyer was broken into a geographic region - with some regions having a higher start value than others.
There's still a yet-to-be-determined (or at least disclosed) restitution amount on top of the buyback amount which you quote. Question will be how much for the restitution?

I can see the Gen 2 owners getting a higher restitution amount because their cars will forever be "tainted" in the resale/trade-in market, at the very least until a fix is implemented and some assessment that *proves* there has been no measurable impact to fuel economy or driving dynamics. That's going to take a legitimate automotive journal review (such as from Jalopnik :wink:), with corresponding corroboration by owners' own butt dynos and forum attestations. But more likely, that hit in value is going to last forever, especially because it's virtually certain there will be some measurable impact to the vehicle - if only from increased DEF usage. If a buyback is implemented later, I would bet Gen 2 owners would make out very well with the double indignity of being promised a fix only to later be offered a buyback.

Gen 1 owners get a very generous buyback amount (clean retail vs. clean trade as on the 2.0), plus the equivalent tax benefit were that vehicle to be traded in at that value, plus a token amount for "expenses" related to owning the car - none of which the 2.0 owners got, and (as far as the tax reimbursement goes) the court rejected as objections from class members. The restitution amount could very well be in the 2.0 range because the other compensation is over and above what one would have received had this all never happened, so the court may judge that the Gen 1 class members will be made whole with a lower restitution value in conjunction with all the other additional settlement provisions.

The restitution amount on the 2.0 was 20% of the buyback amount plus ~$2900. For my nearly base-model 2010, using that calculation, my total buyback + restitution would be just over $30K, which is about 65% of what I paid for it new in November 2010 including tax. And that ain't bad for a car that will be 9 years old by the buyback deadline.
 
So like others on here I have considered buying a new Touareg or Cayenne as a replacement for our 2012. When I asked our local VW dealer he claimed they had all been sent back to VW so that wouldn't be an option. Of course I always believe everything a car salesman says. One conversation has been; what will happen to 2013-2016 values? Well, perusing thru ebay I found a 2016 Exec Touareg listed as "new" with 1500 miles and a buy it now of just over 65K. It appears he is thinking they are of higher value?
It appears the seller is smoking crack.
 
So like others on here I have considered buying a new Touareg or Cayenne as a replacement for our 2012. When I asked our local VW dealer he claimed they had all been sent back to VW so that wouldn't be an option. Of course I always believe everything a car salesman says. One conversation has been; what will happen to 2013-2016 values? Well, perusing thru ebay I found a 2016 Exec Touareg listed as "new" with 1500 miles and a buy it now of just over 65K. It appears he is thinking they are of higher value?

My dealer has at least five 2016 TDIs in the back lot. Another dealer near me also has them. Do a search on cars.com and you will see a lot of new 2016 TDIs. I believe these will be sold eventually as 'used' with an extended warranty -- at a substantial discount. This is what Porsche is planning to do with the 2016 Cayenne diesels that made it here, which is about 1100-1500 vehicles.
 
Has anyone heard of others leasing new Treg TDI's at a cheap rate with a clause to purchase once the fix is distributed?

I thought I heard someone say that was going on.

I had also heard that on this thread; a twelve month lease? That's what prompted me to contact my local dealer. The floor manager there also told me that they had been buying back Touaregs already as well.
 
I had also heard that on this thread; a twelve month lease? That's what prompted me to contact my local dealer. The floor manager there also told me that they had been buying back Touaregs already as well.

Really? The floor manager must know something we don't. Your dealer seems shady and misinformed.
 
Tregs news (3.0l TDI):

1:
2008-2011 will have option to sell back.
2012+ may get a valid fix (due to CANBUS system)

2:
2008-2011 will be fix as time allows, and resold.

3:
Held vehicles will be sold after fix as "Carry overs" saving a few buck for an old new car.

4:
Fixed TDIs that were recalled will be release slowly over the years.

5.
Compensation range from $6000 to $12,000 (depending if you have to split with previous owner.)
 
Tregs news (3.0l TDI):

1:
2008-2011 will have option to sell back.
2012+ may get a valid fix (due to CANBUS system)

2:
2008-2011 will be fix as time allows, and resold.

3:
Held vehicles will be sold after fix as "Carry overs" saving a few buck for an old new car.

4:
Fixed TDIs that were recalled will be release slowly over the years.

5.
Compensation range from $6000 to $12,000 (depending if you have to split with previous owner.)

Where are you finding this from?
 
Tregs news (3.0l TDI):

1:
2008-2011 will have option to sell back.
2012+ may get a valid fix (due to CANBUS system)

2:
2008-2011 will be fix as time allows, and resold.

3:
Held vehicles will be sold after fix as "Carry overs" saving a few buck for an old new car.

4:
Fixed TDIs that were recalled will be release slowly over the years.

5.
Compensation range from $6000 to $12,000 (depending if you have to split with previous owner.)


And where might I ask are you getting this news from?
 
what if you have a 09 and don't want to do anything just leave as is?


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You can keep it as it. You just will not get any settlement money. Some of the owners are planning to keep & drive it until the wheels fall off the vehicle.
 
Why would the owner that sold their 2010 Touareg in 2012 get any buyback $$ ?

They did the same thing on the 2.0l settlement. I would imagine it would be, because the vehicle was sold new with cheat software so any owners of said vehicle would get a share of the settlement for that vehicle.
 
I think the years are off. There was no 2008 TDI here, started with MY 2009.


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Bummer. How did they calculate that?
Whoa whoa whoa lets be very clear here. Not every prior owner gets a cut of the pie. Only people who are current owners and those who sold their 2.0 between 9/15/15 and 6/28/16, get money of any sort. If you sold on 9/14 or on 6/29 you get nothing.

So basically, you could sell a Treg today, and will be included in an eligible seller pool.
 
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