HID conversion on 08 V6

siberian · Jan 5, 2009

Buy a third kit from supremepower? Don't think so. I'll let someone else buy, install, post a video or detailed instructions for a T2 and then we'll see. Too much cash and money spent already for snake oil.

siberian

porsches4ed · Jan 6, 2009

siberian said:
There ain't nothing wrong with me DUDE. Prove the math or the logic is wrong and then we'll discuss what's wrong. Perhaps you should read up on Ohms' Law...
siberian

and it continues...once again...

I have a 2009 Touareg2.
I purchased my HID kit from ICE.
I installed the enclosed resistors on the yellow/black and yellow/green wires on the headlights.
resistors were installed in series, in line, piggyback. Whatever you want to call it, they are on one wire + positive yellow.
DRL option must be disabled.
They work perfect.
Here are pics of the install, I pulled out the yellow wires from the split loom tubing.
Only T2s have this style headlight, 2008-09. This is a REAL T2!
for your viewing pleasure a video as well as pictures are below...

Vegas Matt · Jan 6, 2009

Congrats on the install. Now, I hope they don't glare everyone around you to death like the idiot in the Honda Fit I encountered the other night. Halogen housings are typically not designed for HIDs, and cause a lot of glare that is typically not visible when used with a halogen lamp.

Matt

siberian · Jan 6, 2009

Matt, they have now anti-glare bulbs for reflective housings.

Ed, the first difference I see is that you have an 09, I have an 08 and I don't know what small differences there may be even though they are both T2s.

Secondly, I'm glad it works for you, but electrically, piggy-backing the wire makes no sense as I proved when taking a piece of wire and piggy-backing the resistor, end to end I got very little resistance (< 1 ohm) which is what you would expect as electrons would flow towards the path of least resistance. So what else there is I don't know, but the piggy-backing is nonsense as it won't provide the resistance needed. Check with your local high school physics dept. if in doubt.

Glad it worked for you, cold fusion worked for Fleishman and Pons as well except no one was ever able to reproduce their results.

But assume it works, as I said it's cheaper for folks to go to e-Bay and buy their 100 dollar kit and go to Radio Shack to buy a resistor than pay over 200 bucks for the same kit with a resistor poorly soldered thrown in and and no instructions.

Thanx for taking the time.
siberian

Vegas Matt · Jan 6, 2009

siberian said:
Matt, they have now anti-glare bulbs for reflective housings.

Good to know, thanks for the info!

Matt

porsches4ed · Jan 6, 2009

you can actually get a kit for $69 on ebay but they dont work. even with resistors, the ballasts were bad on the ones I purchased and they gave me a full refund. Dont get me wrong Im all about saving$$ This is just a kit that works.

siberian · Jan 6, 2009

Ed:

Here is another who says it's:

1) Plug and play
2) Does not need resistors etc
3) Doesn't need DRL's off

They are the ones that have a set of anti-glare bulbs.

Hi Greg,

Thank you for your e-mail. Our H7 Ultimate kit will be a plug
and play HID kit for that car without the need for external
resistors or relays. This can be found here:

H7 Ultimate HID Xenon Conversion Kit :: H7 Xenon HID Conversion Kits :: HID Car & LCV Conversion Kits :: HIDS4U Ltd - UK's Number 1 HID Conversion Kit Specialists

Shipping to the US is £20. In most cases the DRL are fine to
leave on, however if you do experience any flickering of the
lights when on DRL it would be best to disconnect them.

Hope this helps.

--
Kind Regards
Pete

siberian · Jan 13, 2009

I've not gotten the ICE kit to work on an 08, and as far as I'm concerned the connections that Ed says were made make no sense to me. I've contacted Cyrus and told him I want to return the kit and get my money back. I've not heard back from him and thus will call my credit card company.

IMHO do not buy from this outfit. Reasons:

1) NO instructions and the ones that come with are wrong

2) connections make no sense

3) Ed is concerned about not cutting the wire as they may pull different voltages, yet there is nothing in the kit to avoid you having to cut the bulb wires to secure them to the housing. So how is that not going to make a difference.

4) Ed's vehicle is an 09 and as such I have no idea as to any changes between the 08 and 09.

As for other solutions for 08s as soon as I find one I'll post. However note that the company in England does provide a special clip to hold the bulb so that you don't have to cut the wires.

Just my opinion, but 200 plus bucks for this is not worth it.

siberian

porsches4ed · Mar 9, 2009

Another HID kit, plug and play

I found ranother company that makes a kit specifically for late VW models.
Direct Connection Tuning - HID Kits
no splicing into wires, no resistors needed, all plug and play. there is an extra BUS module that connects to the Xenon igniter. I purchased a kit and it works fine, I installed the old pair of xenons to my foglights.

siberian · Mar 9, 2009

The kit I bought has the ignitor with it. As a future reference for those kits that do not come with the special clip to avoid you having to splice the bulb wires:

Get a Dremel or similar tool and slice the clip. That way you can slip the clip into the two wires from the bulb and not have to cut them (never a good idea).

siberian

jhermiz · Jul 19, 2009

porsches4ed what k rating did you get are those on the touareg 6000k or 8000k from the site: direct connection tuning hid kits.
Looks like they only run 100 bucks shipped? IM thinking of either getting the 6k or 8k what is your recommendation?

Are these like you stated just plug and play ?

siberian · Jul 19, 2009

Jhermiz, make sure they work on a T2. Can't remember what Porscehs4ed has. But a true HID conversion kit must have aside from the bulbs, a ballast AND an ignitor. Also, given that you're converting from H7s to HIDs you need to make sure they send you the special clip to fasten the bulb to the headlight assembly. You do NOT under any circumstance want to cut the wires to slip the clip on.

If they don't, you can try and snip your existing clip to enable you to do that. But for 100 bucks, those that I tried didn't work. You may also need to disable your DRLs via the VAG-COM to avoid flicker. The true HIDs do not cause that. On the T2s, running 35 watts (DRLs) on HIDs will produce an initial flicker and then the convenience module will switch the circuit off with a failed bulb indicator in the dash.

As to temps, anything over 6k is bling and you'll be sacrificing visibility for cuteness. Don't go above 6k is my advice.

RESEARCH prior to buying... remember caveat emptor

siberian

jhermiz · Jul 19, 2009

Here's what it says it comes with:
Kit includes everything you need to get real HID lights. You get 2 HID bulbs, wiring harness, and 2 ballasts. Our Kits are designed for direct plug and play. There is no wire cutting, no custom fitting and no stress. Just plug in each connection. Fits all vehicle types and comes with everything needed to convert to HID! (Some vehicles with headlight conversions I/E VW? with ecode lights may be required to cut the factory harness to convert from 9004 to h4)

Should I purchase this as well for 30 bucks:

Can Bus / Anti Flicker Modules (pair)

Computer Warning Canceller, solve the problem some have found during the installation of the HID kits on certain car models, like Benz, BMW and Audi, VW and some newer Chryslers, this problem is a computer error, "CANBUS" problem. By using these modules, you can connect the power supply with the ballast via this cable, in most cases solves the computer error warning!

Price: $30

siberian · Jul 19, 2009

Personally I wouldn't buy this. It doesn't have an igniter, no mention of the special clips and as for the kludge of an extra module to fool the low voltage associated with running the DRLs... nah.

If you really want to buy them, forgo the extra module and just disable the DRLs via the VAG-COM. As I said, you get what you pay for.

siberian

jhermiz · Jul 19, 2009

siberian said:
Personally I wouldn't buy this. It doesn't have an igniter, no mention of the special clips and as for the kludge of an extra module to fool the low voltage associated with running the DRLs... nah.

If you really want to buy them, forgo the extra module and just disable the DRLs via the VAG-COM. As I said, you get what you pay for.

siberian

The one I posted was what porscheed used...

Ok Fine..can you recommend a good brand that comes with all that you have mentioned for a good price?

siberian · Jul 19, 2009

Jhermiz, as I said you get what you pay for. I don't know what for you is a "good price". My take is that if you want something and you want it to work then you've got to pay the price.

I can't remember exactly what I paid, but around 300 odd bucks (205 pounds sterling) from this place:

sales@hids4u.co.uk

Ask for Kim Stubbings.

The kit works, no kludges, no resistors to place etc (you can reference the extensive tests and bs some places that sell on e-Bay and swear they work when they don't even know the difference between a circuit in series or parallel).

There are other places I'm sure that sell kits that work, but not for 100 bucks. I have a kit for sale that I never used you can try if you like. 100 bucks and I'll pay the shipping if you want. You return it if they don't in same condition. PM me if you want.

As for Porsches4ed I don't know what year his Treg is. If it's a gen 1, the central module is less caring as to what voltage you're pulling when the DRLs are on. On the 08s forward you will trigger a fault if it's not drawing 55watts.

Your call.

siberian

jhermiz · Jul 20, 2009

Is this the same kit that you had issues with earlier you were talking to porsches4ed?
Why did you buy the kit and not use it ?
This kit that you speak of, what is the K rating, and is it just plug and play or do I have to do any sort of disabling of DRL's etc.

siberian · Jul 20, 2009

I'm not sure the kit I have for sale will work with a T2. The one I installed and gave you the link works with no kludges. Plug and play. Your call.

siberian

jhermiz · Jul 20, 2009

Im not sure what you are stating, you sent me an email link not a hyperlink to a site.
I dont know if its worth the hassle from the threads I read about hids..besides I dont want to deal with VAG COM or even having to take it back to the dealer. The last time I had hids on my Yukon I ran into more issues then it was worth...

The fogs wouldnt look good if those werent hids either...I think im gonna pass on hids for now.

2vwatatime · Jul 20, 2009

I can vouch for the seller/kit on an '09 - a nearby owner of one of these kits & I play golf every 2 weeks or so, and I watched the install..
As to a link - it's not difficult to pick out from an email addy: HIDS4U.co.uk | HID Kits, car bulbs, wiper blades

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