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NO, NO, Please, don't shut it down !

But, I really need a few douzen of full baskets of pop corn. Juste ran ont of it...

Ho ! And btw, a few barrels of cold beer too !
Ok, ok, back on topic: I have received my $500/$500/3yr roadside assistance compensation package. I'll activate Monday....
 
Went to go activate my cards today nobody at dealer even said anything about the roadside or anything. Quite sad honestly but I did not buy my tdi at this dealer so the manager quickly activated it and got me out. Quite surprised as dealer acted dumbfounded that there was any issues with all tdis.
 
Registered for the package online on Jan. 12, and the package arrived in the mail about 3 weeks later. Went to my dealer on Wednesday for activation and they had a sign-in notebook labeled "TDI Goodwill Package" on top on the service counter. The young lady in service checked my Touareg's VIN and mileage, checked to make sure I was still the owner (I did not bring my registration or title, and an insurance card is not enough, but they quickly checked it online with the state license database), activated my cards online, and explained the two $500 cards and the roadside assistance to me. Received an e-mail from VW later that same day confirming activation of my goodwill package.

I guess some folks have better VW dealers than others.
 
A short review and rumors...

VW has sent CARB the proposed fix for the 3.0 diesels.

Kenneth R. Feinberg has been hired by VW to handle the settlement situation. Kenneth has handled settlements on the GM faulty ignition case and the BP oil spill.

Kenneth has said that the settlements will be very generous. As many have pointed out, $1000 apology with no strings attached could be seen as generous, so where this goes... nobody knows.

I am hearing some strange rumors..

Lets start with the EPA has said from the beginning that 2012 to 2015 Passats would be a very easy fix and that the 2009 to 2011 earlier diesels would be the difficult fix.

But there are rumors that the reality is going to be the opposite. Remember that we are trying to bring the cars up to the emission standards at the time the cars were manufactured. So the later cars have a higher hurdle to clear.

The rumor is that all the later diesel Passats (the ones out of TN) are the vehicles that VW is finding impossible to bring up to the standards for the manufacture date. That these later vehicles are going to be the ones that can not be fixed. VW is going to have to attempt to buy back all of the 2012 to 2015 passats.

The 2009 to 2011 look like a fix is still possible. Hopefully we will get some real answers soon.

To get any additional settlement money, the rumor is that money will be paid out only after the fix is applied to your car. Apparently the EPA and VW is realizing that many owners like the car as it is now, and that getting some of the owners to bring in the cars is going to be a battle or perhaps impossible.

Assuming the rumor is true, my best guess is the "very generous" offer is going to be for owners of the later 2011 to 2015 Passats to trade into a new Passat at very little cost.

Last issue is will VW be required by the EPA to destroy all unfixable vehicles that VW repurchases or if VW will be allowed to send the out of the country is still up in the air. If you start with the premise that the vehicles are gross polluters, then the EPA should demand their destruction. Allowing them to pollute elsewhere is quite a hypocrisy.

There it is. Clear as mud on a windshield. :p
 
Registered for the package online on Jan. 12, and the package arrived in the mail about 3 weeks later. Went to my dealer on Wednesday for activation and they had a sign-in notebook labeled "TDI Goodwill Package" on top on the service counter. The young lady in service checked my Touareg's VIN and mileage, checked to make sure I was still the owner (I did not bring my registration or title, and an insurance card is not enough, but they quickly checked it online with the state license database)
You're not required to carry registration in your vehicle? The pamphlet in the Goodwill envelope clearly spells out what you need to bring with you. Again, I know reading is hard....just like reading the owners manual for a $55K vehicle is hard.
 
You're not required to carry registration in your vehicle? The pamphlet in the Goodwill envelope clearly spells out what you need to bring with you. Again, I know reading is hard....just like reading the owners manual for a $55K vehicle is hard.
No, not required to carry "registration" in your vehicle in Texas (the paper is actually a receipt from when you pay for your license plate renewal). We have computers and internet here, even the state. I could not find my most recent receipt (most folks just throw the receipt away once they attach the new license sticker to the inside of their windshield), so I just assumed the dealer could look it up online. I was right. :)
 
You're not required to carry registration in your vehicle? The pamphlet in the Goodwill envelope clearly spells out what you need to bring with you. Again, I know reading is hard....just like reading the owners manual for a $55K vehicle is hard.
Dude, you're not making any friends here.

If you can't treat your fellow forum members at minimum civilly, and ideally, as friends, please go find another forum.

Thanks.
 
I just spent my hush money on an APR tune.
So I was seriously considering this, because this is awesome, but then I thought about what could happen if there was some sort of "mandatory" buyback - i.e., EPA/CARB refuse to certify any solution, and then somehow that makes the cars retroactively non-road legal in the US.

I can re-sell a new aftermarket head unit, but an ECU tune...not so much.

Is this paranoid??
 
Went to go activate my cards today nobody at dealer even said anything about the roadside or anything. Quite sad honestly but I did not buy my tdi at this dealer so the manager quickly activated it and got me out. Quite surprised as dealer acted dumbfounded that there was any issues with all tdis.
I think we all need to keep in mind that the dealers are screwed much harder in many ways than each of us. They are NOT VAG...they are licensed dealers who buy the cars from VAG and then sell them to us, and were lied to as much as the people who bought the cars from them. They bought a crapload of TDIs that then had to sit rotting on their lots while VAG and the EPA/CARB are doing their dick dance. Remember half of your hush money can only be spent at the dealer...which is a small bone thrown their way.

Some of these people are worried about their jobs due to the PR hit VW is taking, and the TDI owner who walked through the door just before you might have ripped them a new one even though the dealer had absolutely nothing to do with VAG's deception. I don't like dealing with dealerships any more than the next guy, but some of these people have more riding on this than the inconvenience of having to walk in the door and get free money...so far, these people have got nothing. I would cut them some slack.
 
I know it says it there. My point being was that the dealer did not care and just wanted me out... But hey thanks for the comment. Have a great day..
I hear you. You would think that a dealer would make an effort to be at least slightly polite. But there are many reasons that VW is having a hard time succeeding in the US.

I don't expect VW to be Audi/BMW/Infiniti but the 30 percent of just rude VW dealers and the 50% of incompetent VW service departments are NOT helping to grow the brand. :(

Talk about a perfect time to "soft sell" you on some VW services.
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Yes sir, we can hep you get your $1000 in gift cards.
I hope you are still enjoying your Touareg.
Would you like to use some of that money today to get some VW swag or an oil change while you are here? And btw... lots of nice shiny cars on the lot if you are thinking about trading up. That $1000 would make a nice deposit.
 
I hear you. You would think that a dealer would make an effort to be at least slightly polite. But there are many reasons that VW is having a hard time succeeding in the US.

I don't expect VW to be Audi/BMW/Infiniti but the 30 percent of just rude VW dealers and the 50% of incompetent VW service departments are NOT helping to grow the brand. :(

Talk about a perfect time to "soft sell" you on some VW services.
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Yes sir, we can hep you get your $1000 in gift cards.
I hope you are still enjoying your Touareg.
Would you like to use some of that money today to get some VW swag or an oil change while you are here? And btw... lots of nice shiny cars on the lot if you are thinking about trading up. That $1000 would make a nice deposit.

Make sure you read the very fine print that comes with the cards.


#15. Cards will not cover hurt feelings.
 
The rumor is that all the later diesel Passats (the ones out of TN) are the vehicles that VW is finding impossible to bring up to the standards for the manufacture date. That these later vehicles are going to be the ones that can not be fixed. VW is going to have to attempt to buy back all of the 2012 to 2015 Passats.
From who and where doe's this rumor come from ?

How come can they not find a fix for the 2012 - 2015 Passat from TN ass'y plant ? All those Passats are already equipped with AdBlue system and SCR.
(engine code CKRA). And how it will be more easy to fix the Jettas and Golfs with the CJAA engine (without AdBlue system) ?

P.S. There is NO WAY that I want to sell back my Passat 2012 TDI to VW...
 
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