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#21 ·
yeah both good ideas
 
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#22 ·
maybe we can go in the annual solar challenge !!! I can see the touareg crushing other solar cars with ease .... that is rolling over them as they are low and like cockroaches



sydneytreg said:
Perhaps you could paint them with PV solar cells.
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Electic motors are ideal for towing...all the torque happens right away.

That said, I'm curious to know how towing impacts the range. It takes much more energy to tow (same idea as why you burn more fuel) so I'm guessing batteries will deplete much quicker. So I highly doubt that the range claim applies to towing much in the same way any fuel economy/fuel range claim would apply in a fossil fuel vehicle.

Otherwise the idea of a free fill up vehicle is incredibly appealing. I am very anxious to see what Audi's electric SUV comes out like.
 
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LOtouareg said:
I am a big Tesla fan, and the Model X is shaping up to be a great vehicle. I do, however, have my doubts about the claimed 10k lb. towing capacity. This was one employee who said this at one event. He may have misspoke, or he may have spilled a secret. Who knows.

PS. Keep in mind that although Tesla should start deliveries next month or so, the wait list is roughly a year long if you put your order in now.
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10K towing is an easy spec for an electric vehicle.
It has more to do with peak power for acceleration and peak braking capabilities than usability.

The issue is not the ability to accelerate or decelerate the load, the problem is going to be storing sufficient power to tow a useful load a useful distance.
 
Discussion starter · #29 ·
bring on the Audi

mpm T2 TDI said:
If the new Audi all electric SUV (debuting in Sept) looks and drives anything like its drawings and specs, Model X may have a short shelf life...
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The more I think about it and after having test driven the Model S twice now electric is really the way to go in the future.

If Audi can make an SUV better than the Model X that would be amazing! Right now though its just a concept car. Tesla has produced the real thing.

I Think Telsa will always be ahead of the curve. All the others seem to be trying to catch up.

I wonder how much the audi will tow?

Tesla open sourced it patents to spur EV growth. It seems to be working as China already has a knockoff Model S
 
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N_Jay said:
10K towing is an easy spec for an electric vehicle.
It has more to do with peak power for acceleration and peak braking capabilities than usability.

The issue is not the ability to accelerate or decelerate the load, the problem is going to be storing sufficient power to tow a useful load a useful distance.
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what is a "useful distance"? that is subjective. For me an Suv that can Tow a 10000 lb trailer 200 miles and have access to free unlimited supercharging is a winner!
 
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Benzer said:
what is a "useful distance"? that is subjective. For me an Suv that can Tow a 10000 lb trailer 200 miles and have access to free unlimited supercharging is a winner!
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I think 200 miles is unrealistic given current (and near future) technology.

Current expectation of vehicle alone is 170 to 210 miles.
I would guess that towing is going to be a 50%+ reduction in range depending on wind resistance of the trailer, the speed towed and lots of other variables.
 
#32 ·
I agree electric is the way to go; however until 2 minute for full recharge technology exists, I think Tesla- like range combine with a diesel engine is the ultimate combination.

While 400 mile range sounds great, nobody plans their travel well enough to make an EV the only vehicle you own.

The supercharge station idea is a good one, but I'd like to see an overlay of gas/diesel stations on top of that. Once the world goes EV there's a whole lotta more charging stations required. Wonder where all that power will come from? Coal plants?...there is no free lunch )..its just transferring the source of energy elsewhere
 
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The world is not going EV for a VERY long time. Even in their optimum use they are only practical if subsidized.

A highly optimized turbo diesel is probably the best source, probably combined with a hybrid electric powered drive line.

Even this design will take many years to be come dominant.

The creation of a MUCH better battery system and/or the invention of a practical suber capacitor could change the equation.
 
#34 ·
Waiting for the flux capacitor...There was one in 1955 and then again in 1985.
 
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nickm said:
I agree electric is the way to go; however until 2 minute for full recharge technology exists, I think Tesla- like range combine with a diesel engine is the ultimate combination.

While 400 mile range sounds great, nobody plans their travel well enough to make an EV the only vehicle you own.

The supercharge station idea is a good one, but I'd like to see an overlay of gas/diesel stations on top of that. Once the world goes EV there's a whole lotta more charging stations required. Wonder where all that power will come from? Coal plants?...there is no free lunch )..its just transferring the source of energy elsewhere
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X2...

And I think what Tesla is doing is great, shaking up the status quo and all...

If solar and batteries could ever get more efficient, then you'd plug in at home each night off your solar array.

Even if it became old school, I'd still would want a diesel/electric 3rd row, 4CAir row people mover. ;)
 
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mpm T2 TDI said:
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If solar and batteries could ever get more efficient, then you'd plug in at home each night off your solar array.

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Interesting concept - charging your car, at NIGHT, from a SOLAR array when the sun is down! THAT is REALLY efficient.
 
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