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Tahoe said:
czechT698 said:
how exatly do you oil it? how much oil must be applied?

Follow the K&N instructions on the box. It is spray can of oil, much like spray paint. The oil is red. I think they say 8" away for X amount of passes.

I stopped using these filters and like the OEM better so I can't remember the details.
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Igibson, I did not have to disconnect anything on my 2004 V-8. Just had to loosen the bolts on the chrome recirculation pump amd swivel it out of the way so that I could lift the filter housing lid out of the way enough to extract and replace the filter -- slowly;) Don't know about the specifics for a V-10.
 
I've used K&N filters for 20 years never had a problem,used on twin turboVR4,even a Toyota Truck I put a blower on.The story about an O2 sensor being fouled by an air cleaner is priceless.Go to the K&N site,they will pay for any engine or parts damaged by there products.
 
I've used K&N filters for 20 years never had a problem,used on twin turboVR4,even a Toyota Truck I put a blower on.The story about an O2 sensor being fouled by an air cleaner is priceless.Go to the K&N site,they will pay for any engine or parts damaged by there products.
I am with him, but I gave up on this argument a long time ago. I just pulled mine and cleaned it after the rally and just need to reoil it.
 
So you want a better example, 96 Explorer Limited, had 20k on it when I bought it in 96. Currently it has 95k and the same K&N in it. Absolutely no problems what so ever. I don't see what the issue is as long as you clean it and oil it to spec. Still has the original MAF in it as well. Still want to argue it? :-s
If these filter are so good why doesn't one single manufacture use them as OEM equipment? I believe they let in more dirt which increases engine wear. It's hard to say if it reduces the engine life by 1% or 50%. Who can say. Every customer I have that uses K&N filters has throttle body/idle speed motors that are dirtier then average. Why risk your expensive engine on something inexpensive as an air filter element???
 
If these filter are so good why doesn't one single manufacture use them as OEM equipment? I believe they let in more dirt which increases engine wear. It's hard to say if it reduces the engine life by 1% or 50%. Who can say. Every customer I have that uses K&N filters has throttle body/idle speed motors that are dirtier then average. Why risk your expensive engine on something inexpensive as an air filter element???
Reason I gave up on this argument a long time ago. If K&N as well as other filter companies such as this are that bad for your motor, then why are they all still in business? I still say it is operator error due to over oiling and not allowing it to dry before putting it back in the car.
 
If these filter are so good why doesn't one single manufacture use them as OEM equipment?
Because most people don't maintain their vehicles properly as it is, even with a paper air filter, let alone actually cleaning and oiling an air filter. Also, it's a cost issue, since these filters would raise their production costs, either eating into their bottom line or inflating their prices.

Companies like K&N market their products to the hands-on enthusiasts, not the people wanting a "change it and toss it" paper filter.

Matt
 
Actually,Toyota sells their version through TRD,and you can put them in with no warranty problems,even install the blower and still keep your full warranty.Toyota has very high end motors also,not trying to start a flame war just stating Facts.Most problems occur because of inproper installation(leak around airbox),or overoiling,they use less than 2 oz. of oil,or people detailing engines with silicone spray and some getting into air intake.IMHO
 
IMO K&Ns are great in something that you'd tinker with (ie: a bike or boat or non-daily driver), but for a daily driver like a Touareg I don't see why anyone would get a K&N..it doesn't give you more horsepower, and if you include the time it takes to clean and properly oil one, it ends up being far more expensive than a good quality OEM paper filter...cleaning & oiling filters sucks.

That said they are high quality, and if you oil them properly they won't cause issues...at least I've never had any in vehicles that I've owned.
 
One thing I've noticed that some individuals have a bit of difficulty replacing their air filter/s especially on the V10 and some of the V8's. The K&N and other free flow performance filters are a thinner profile and makes the job a bit easier...you may only need to unclasp and hinge the air box cover open in order to get the filter out...small nicety but still something positive ;-) I personally do use performance filters in all my cars/suvs for many many years with no negative results. Currently use AFE oilless filter panels in the V10 so no worries regarding the MAF sensor getting contaminated with filter oil.
 
V10, what is your mileage or elapsed time between cleanings of the AFE filters?
I'm always tinkering with the V10 but I've cleaned the AFE's (just) in preparation for a trip out to Colorado - They have about 20K miles - they were a few leaves and some obvious fine particulate that washed right out...I let them dry a bit and reinstalled figuring the air flow would driving would dry them pretty fast...there was minimal water in them after shaking them out anyway...They work great as far as I can tell and I like the sound from them over the stock.

FYI - check your intake manifold where the intake hoses attach inside, mine have a oil residue build-up - same as with my 2004 V10...good to clean these out when you do you filters or every 20K miles...I use lots of shop rags and some spray brake/carburetor cleaner to loosen the crap up...the rubber hoses themselves seem to stay clean but when the oil vapor hits the metal of the intake it coats and gets baked on. Don't over-spray the cleaner in the intake just on the shut-off flap and immediately on the inside of this section...wipe frequently and ware latex gloves or your fingers/hands will turn black:D
 
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