I use Valvoline Synpower 5W-30 XL-III here in Oz, it's DPF safe etc. Used it at one of the workshops I used to work at too

 

Penrite Enviro + 5W-30 is stated by Penrite to match the 504/507 spec

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ENVIRO+ 5W-30 is a premium full synthetic, SAE 5W-30 Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM), Fully Licensed and Warranty Approved engine oil. It is fully approved for warranty service for VAG (Volkswagen Automotive Group) vehicles such as Volkswagen / Audi / Skoda / Seat engines using the latest...

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No 5W-40 like it suggests in the owners manual?

 

AFAIK 507 is only available in 5W-30 and 0W-30.

Why do you want to use a 40 weight oil?

 

The 'weight' doesn't tell the whole story when comparing 505 and 507 oils.

The 507 is made from better (higher viscosity index) feedstocks than the 505 oils, and at high temperatures a 507 oil will actually be more viscous than a 505 despite the lower weight rating, while still offering better cold flow for quicker oil pressure on cold starts and better fuel economy. There is no reason to use a heavier oil, even in extreme heat.

 

Listen to this man ☝ 💯

 

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2023/MC-10231581-0001.pdf

 

Ok, so no 5W40 oil has the 507 spec. Did VW make the suggestion for it's use before that weight was even available? That's odd. The cheapest readily available oil I see is Robot or human? at $28 a jug. So with filter, that's a $68 DIY oil change. What do dealers charge?

 

Ok, so no 5W40 oil has the 507 spec. Did VW make the suggestion for it's use before that weight was even available? That's odd. The cheapest readily available oil I see is Robot or human? at $28 a jug. So with filter, that's a $68 DIY oil change. What do dealers charge?

It varies. I pay $150 for my oil change at my dealer.

 

Last question. Do the drain plugs have a reusable o-ring insert or a separate crush washer?

 

Crush washer

 

OK I'll get a crush washer too, thanks, I see Mobil 1 ESP 5W30 is $35 a jug and the 0W30 is $28. Any reason not to use the 0W30?

 

507 / 0W-30 is the standard grade used at VW dealers in the UK

 

Castrol makes a special "euro car" formula here in the US that is 507 rated

 

Have you been to the FCP website? This is my first post so I can’t put a link in. But it’s WorldWideWeb(dot)fcpeuro(dot)com.

 

Yes I know FCP but it's cheaper at Walmart and I can get it today.

 

The spec is so specific that all of the 507 oils are essentially identical, regardless of the brand or viscosity specs... anything you can find will work. Usually M1 ESP is the only thing I can find at local stores that I don't have to get shipped.

 

Ordered 2 jugs of the 0W30 M1 ESP from Walmart for $56 delivered tomorrow. My nearest VW dealer didn't have the filter in stock and have to wait until Monday, and that's another $11 plus a buck crush washer.

 

I never noticed that the Owner's Manual mentions 5W40 as an option before. Interesting that the manual says to use 5W30 or 5W40, but then also states that you should only use a 504 or 507-spec oil which is only available for 30-weight oils. Talk about a contradiction, I now understand why the OP was asking this question. Today I learned something new!

 

I never noticed that the Owner's Manual mentions 5W40 as an option before.

It's not mentioned as an option, it is the standard.

 

Note that they're saying that's what they put in there at the factory, not what they are telling you to use. It's still saying you can use any oil that meets the 507 spec.

I would guess that the 5W-40 in the manual is simply a mistake, because VW does not appear to sell, or have ever sold a 507 oil with that rating.

 

You can get Castrol "euro car" 5w40 with the 507 rating right at auto zone. I just got some last Saturday...trust me

 

Find that hard to believe. Post a picture of the back of the label.

 

VW 507 has only ever been 0W30 or 5W30.

There never was a XW40 in VW 507 spec.

That's why they had 505/505.01 spec in the XW40 range.

VW 506/506.01 was also a 0W30 oil although it only had a limited run

 

It really is too bad there's no official 27pg documentation on the subject of approved oil standards for us to reference... that would be useful.
Oh wait... never mind.

 

Wow, that's a good deal

 

This is painful to witness....

 

I guess I'm mistaken about the 5w40! I must've used the 5w30 Castrol eurocar. Was only topping off a quart because the crappy VW dealer didn't even fill it up all the way after changing it!

 

Mmm Castrol sludge yummy...

Why not use Valvoline or Liqui Moly (albeit the latter seems overrated)?

 

Why don't you rate the approval process?

 

Cars driven short distances using synthetic oil in areas with high olefinic content in premium unlead fuel are a known mousse / sludge problem. The short distance driving does not enable the engine to evaporate the fuel and water build up in the the oil and this reacts more with synthetic oils than conventional mineral oils to form mousse and sludge. Not an issue with the brand off oil itself. It was first recognised in a problem with Mercedes only driving the few kms from Toorak ( an up market suburb) to Melbourne daily

 

Thanks, didn't know that. As I said this is based off what we used at my old work, they always used Valvoline. Maybe because he had a trade deal with them or something. All I know is I use Valvoline and am happy with it

 

Just did some research, turns out a lot of the negative opinions were from the early days of their synthetic oils but they seem highly rated now. I stand corrected

 

AMZOIL

 

No way would I pay their ridiculous prices for some boutique oil in a 15 year old Touareg.