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So after going through the diagram for G62, it's a ground-referenced sensor (no 5VREF). Ground is grey/red pin 1, and purple/yellow pin 2 goes to ECU T105/8. The common ground for G62 is shared with G83 lower radiator temp sensor. So get your multimeter and check for pin 1 continuity to ground, and for continuity to pin 1 of the lower radiator temp sensor. If that checks out, then check for continuity of G62 pin 2 to ECU pin T105/8, and G62 pin 1 to ECU pin T105/30.

Complete wiring diagrams for the T3 have been posted HERE by me.

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Discussion starter · #24 ·
Thank you!!!!!!!!

No continuity to ground from pin 1...
I assume by ground I can just touch any grounding point on the car? It was going from 1 to -1 with a rare spike to 7-14 but never anything close to zero.

Seems to be good continuity to the lower temp sensor.

Is this a bad ground wire somewhere? How can I test further?
 
Discussion starter · #27 ·
No 🤣
I think I know how, but no I'm not sure.

Multimeter on ohms setting (200k)
Red lead to pin 1, black lead to grounding point on car (negative/ground battery jump terminal under hood): result is flashing 1 to -1, with the occasional split second reading of a value between 7-14, before going back down to 1/-1.

I assume this means bad/no continuity, because when I test between the two coolant temperature sensors, the value goes to almost zero (0.20) and stays there as expected.
 
Well, here's the thing.... you didn't post good information to start off with, and poor @chewblekka unfortunately took a bite and attempted to help you.... but I'm not onboard with that approach.

You didn't even bother to post code descriptions or anything... put some effort into it.
The P0117 could be because of voltage, or temps.... but we don't know anything.

Unlike @New2Tregs who thinks a AutoScan "isn't always required", I need to see all the info which you are not looking at.
I need to see codes, descriptions, FF data, etc. in order to start taking stabs at things....

Are you using VCDS? Are you using some garbage generic scanner? What information do you have?

My crystal orb has been broken for a while, so I can't see anything that you are not showing.
 
Unlike @New2Tregs who thinks a AutoScan "isn't always required", I need to see all the info which you are not looking at.
@SaVAGeSoot
1- It's an AutoScan.
2- Why randomly tag me in this thread when I was posting that comment to a different thread where the poster was savvy enough to use VCDS to fix their problem without posting an AutoScan? Don't do that.

I'm sure in this case/thread it would be helpful for an expert like yourself to scold/demean people on how to follow your instructions only to fix their problems.
 
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to scold/demean people
Newsflash: You're busting my chops about that missing "n" !
Why randomly tag me in this thread
Newsflash: Public forum, I'm free to post whatever I want... if I want to tag you in every one of my posts, I will.
If you don't like it, modify your profile settings, etc.
Also, I'm making a point... those with the required IQ will get it...
 
Discussion starter · #33 ·
Newsflash: You're busting my chops about that missing "n" !

Newsflash: Public forum, I'm free to post whatever I want... if I want to tag you in every one of my posts, I will.
If you don't like it, modify your profile settings, etc.
Also, I'm making a point... those with the required IQ will get it...
Doesn't take very high IQ to understand that although a VCDS scan would be helpful here, it is not required in order to ascertain which further diagnostic procedures to undertake.
 
So after going through the diagram for G62, it's a ground-referenced sensor (no 5VREF). Ground is grey/red pin 1, and purple/yellow pin 2 goes to ECU T105/8. The common ground for G62 is shared with G83 lower radiator temp sensor. So get your multimeter and check for pin 1 continuity to ground, and for continuity to pin 1 of the lower radiator temp sensor. If that checks out, then check for continuity of G62 pin 2 to ECU pin T105/8, and G62 pin 1 to ECU pin T105/30.

Complete wiring diagrams for the T3 have been posted HERE by me.

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Where is the actual physical ground being provided to "Sensor Ground connecton 327" ? Because that is not an actual earthing point, which would be directly connected to ground. That is just several wires connected together, which should be connected to ground, but through what connection? I was browsing through the wiring diagrams and could not find any place, where "sensor ground connection 327" is actually grounded.

So, is the ground to 327 being provided by one of the sensors themselves (for example, is pin 1 on sensor G62 connected to the body of the sensor, which is then connected to the engine and actually provides the ground to 327)? Or can the module J623 provide the ground to pin T105/30, because J623 has other actual ground connections to it?

Did you have the key on when you were testing for continuity (if ground is being provided by J623, then the key might have to be on)?

If you test for continuity between sensor G62 pin (the sensor, not the connector) and ground, what does that show you (if pin 1 on the sensor is grounded via the sensor body)? If this is the case, then unplugging G62 would remove the ground and there would be no continuity from the sensor connector pin 1 to ground.

What does the continuity look like if sensor G62 is plugged in and you test between sensor G83 connector, pin 1 and ground (if ground is provided by sensor G62)?
 
Discussion starter · #36 ·
Did have the key on when testing. Performed all testing with g62 unplugged. Haven't tried testing the sensor itself, only the plug. Partially because I've thrown a new g62 sensor at it already. Will perform suggested continuity tests ASAP tomorrow and report back.
 
Discussion starter · #37 · (Edited)
I assume it's not grounded via the sensor only because I have the g62 unplugged but still not getting continuity to pin 1 on plug to ground.

Feel like the problem lies between the ECU and ground connection 327, because there's continuity between sensors connected by wiring below that point.
 
I assume it's not grounded via the sensor only because I have the g62 unplugged but still not getting continuity to pin 1 on plug to ground.

Feel like the problem lies between the ECU and ground connection 327, because there's continuity between sensors connected by wiring below that point.
If G62 would be providing the ground, then unplugging it would remove the ground connection and there would be no continuity between the pin 1 on the connector and ground.
 
Makes sense. Seemsike it's grounded at the ECM? Is there a way to test further to pinpoint the location of the wiring fault?
I would do these tests I mentioned earlier, unless you've already done them, to first try to establish if the sensors themselves are providing the ground or not.

1. Test continuity from pin 1 on the G62 sensor plug (not wiring harness connector) to ground. If continuity exists, then this sensor should be the one providing the ground to ground connection 327.
2. Test continuity from pin 1 on the G83 sensor plug (not wiring harness connector) to ground. If continuity exists, then this sensor should be the one providing the ground to ground connection 327.
3. If there is no continuity in either of the two tests above, then I would find module J623, connector T105, pins 30, 8 ,9 and check for continuity between them and the sensor connectors like Chewblekka already suggested earlier.
 
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