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What is Coolant Pump 2, MIL ON

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#1 ·
The MIL came on yesterday, VCDS Scan below saying Coolant Pump 2 Open Circuit, any insight would be appreciated.
Cold here this morning, single digits and i did notice that car warmed up very slowly.
Sunday,05,March,2017,09:58:22:31878
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 16.8.4.2 (x64)
Data version: 20161129 DS267.0
Ross-Tech: Home

VIN: WVGFF9BP2BD004954 License Plate:
Mileage: 143715km-89300mi Repair Order:

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Chassis Type: BP (7P6)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 36 42 46 52 53 55 56 5F 62 65
69 6C 6D 72

VIN: WVGFF9BP2BD004954 Mileage: 143715km-89300miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CGRA) Labels: 03H-907-309-V1.clb
Part No SW: 03H 906 023 B HW: 03H 907 309
Component: 3,6 FSI ULEV2 H15 8643
Revision: M7H15---
Coding: 002A0012433600000000
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM36FSI01103H906023B 002005
ROD: EV_ECM36FSI01103H906023B.rod
VCID: 21437A1130B56C4AE6-8074

2 Faults Found:
12348 - Coolant Pump 2
P261A 00 [175] - Open circuit
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 143597 km
Date: 2017.03.03
Time: 20:26:45

Engine speed: 0.00 /min
Normed load value: 0.0 %
Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
Coolant temperature: 80 °C
Intake air temperature: 9 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1020 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 12.722 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
Relative load value: 67.95 %

2947 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor Signal B2 S2
P2272 00 [096] - too Lean
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Mileage: 143128 km
Date: 2017.02.22
Time: 11:52:43

Engine speed: 1487.00 /min
Normed load value: 47.1 %
Vehicle speed: 81 km/h
Coolant temperature: 60 °C
Intake air temperature: 15 °C
Ambient air pressure: 1000 mbar
Voltage terminal 30: 14.442 V
Unlearning counter according OBD: 10
Oxygen sensor bank 1 sensor 2: response time: 0.00 s
Oxygen sensor aging test bank 1 after catalytic converter: 1.15 s
Rear cat conv temp main cat conv model value: 845.10 °C
Oxygen sensor bank 2 sensor 2: response time filtered: 0.03 s
Oxygen sensor aging test bank 2 after catalytic converter: 1.50 s

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217) Labels: 0C8-927-750.clb
Part No SW: 0C8 927 750 A HW: 0C8 927 750 A
Component: AL1000 AISIN 001 1870
Serial number:
Coding: 001368
Shop #: WSC 55015 001 1048576
ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL991031 001001
ROD: EV_TCMAL991031_001.rod
VCID: 2A519D3D4D83AF12B7-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 7P0-907-379.clb
Part No SW: 7P0 907 379 H HW: 7P0 907 379 A
Component: MK25A H36 0417
Revision: -------- Serial number: 404910010EC010
Coding: 5B7613C349242557DAFDC89892D6A4407700
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_MK25AXT 007001
ROD: EV_ESPMK25A00700.rod
VCID: 4281D59DD5F357529F-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393) Labels: 8K0-907-064-05.clb
Part No SW: 4H0 907 064 AK HW: 4H0 907 064 AK
Component: BCM2 2.0 H24 0217
Revision: 00002001
Coding: 09860000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 72E1455DADD3A7D2CF-8026

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P6 959 754 M HW: 7P6 959 754 M
Component: FBSTOUAREGIDG H04 0051
Serial number: 0810000104720008

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4H0 905 852 B HW: 4H0 905 852 B
Component: J764 ELV MLB H38 0044
Serial number: 2310000102100015

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 7P6-907-040.clb
Part No SW: 7P6 907 040 AG HW: 7P6 907 040 AG
Component: Klima 2 Zonen H18 0613
Coding: 4606200A80
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiFront 004001
ROD: EV_AirCondiFront_VW52.rod
VCID: 79F37271F8A5D48A8E-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 4H0-907-063-V1.clb
Part No SW: 4H0 907 063 L HW: 4H0 907 063 D
Component: BCM1 2.0 H12 0092
Revision: 15012002 Serial number: 00000000946193
Coding: 26001012973C5D010020180300005D0C431C660882010261000000020000
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 31638A516855DCCA76-8064

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P0 955 119 HW: 7P0 955 119 Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: WWS 110211 31 0020
Serial number: 90243400110219022253
Coding: 004DBD

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7P0 955 559 D HW: 7P0 955 559 D Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
Component: RLFS H09 0011
Serial number: 10126203
Coding: 035223

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7P6 941 431 E HW: 7P6 941 431 E
Component: E1 - LDS H04 0031
Serial number: 00000000001002110133

Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 410 A HW: 4H0 907 410 A
Component: USHL4.2 H30 0020
Serial number: 0000001805569R08PE06

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 7P0 959 655 B HW: 7P0 959 655 B
Component: VW10Airbag02D H05 0023
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003JX001ME5B
Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003244
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW526 001001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW526_001.rod
VCID: 4085DF95DBFF454289-8014

Seat occupied recognition:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P6 959 339 HW: 7P6 959 339
Component: BF-Gewichtss. 003 0005
Serial number: 5850000R10A01020R6

Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 3575LRB40590DGES4HGX

Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
Serial number: 3585LRB40590DGES71OT

Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
Serial number: 3515RRB40670BTBGBO3T

Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
Serial number: 3525RRB405R0BTBGJPFR

Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 3555NRB405H0DD2AAHIG

Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
Serial number: 3565NRB405H0DD2ACHPQ

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels: 4H0-953-568.clb
Part No SW: 4H0 953 568 A HW: 7P6 953 507
Component: Lenks.Modul H08 0007
Revision: -------- Serial number: 90815KB90009V
Coding: 000015
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 31638A516855DCCA76-8064

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P6 959 542 HW: 7P6 959 542
Component: E221__MFL-TAS H03 0027
Serial number: 0059373

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 7P6-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 7P6 920 980 M HW: 7P6 920 980 M
Component: Kombi H12 0239
Revision: 10240061 Serial number: 658030211593052
Coding: 8B7732022B00CF05020004
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_KombiUDSRBVW526 001013
ROD: EV_KombiUDSRBVW526_VW52.rod
VCID: 4689C98DF9DB6B72B3-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: None
Part No SW: 7P6 907 530 C HW: 7P6 907 530 A
Component: GW-CAN-L-MOST H08 5202
Revision: -------- Serial number: 00000000099718
Coding: 0021032600
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewVW526UDS 001006
ROD: EV_GatewUDS_VW52.rod
VCID: 3875B775832F0D8231-806C

Battery Monitoring Control Module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P0 915 181 A HW: 7P0 915 181
Component: Batt_Sensor H07 0140
Serial number: 00000000005650576514

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136) Labels: None
Part No SW: 4H0 959 760 D HW: 4H0 959 760 D
Component: MEM-FS H08 0153
Revision: AA000000 Serial number: 00001002326850
Coding: 0058130000004001000001010101202020202121202020
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 346D83459747E9E21D-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels: None
Part No SW: 4H0 959 793 F HW: 4H0 959 793 F
Component: TSG FA H07 0162
Revision: -------- Serial number: 0000112736007
Coding: 011D07205E00453005080000
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 3C7DAB65BF1721A2D5-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393) Labels: 4H0-907-064-46.clb
Part No SW: 4H0 907 064 AK HW: 4H0 907 064 AK
Component: BCM2 2.0 H24 0217
Revision: 00002001 Serial number: 0142228160
Coding: 0186123A28B9509480B00620210000000000000000000000000000000000
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 72E1455DADD3A7D2CF-8026

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 7P6 959 719 HW: 7P6 959 719
Component: GTO BT H19 0059
Serial number: 019111443

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H05 1501

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7P0 959 591 HW: 7P0 959 591
Component: J245 PS30.050 H07 0006
Serial number: WOO1127265+
Coding: 191100

Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 7P0 959 591 A HW: 4H0 959 591
Component: J394 PS30.050 H07 0006
Serial number: WOO11317973
Coding: 191100

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels: None
Part No SW: 4H0 959 792 F HW: 4H0 959 792 F
Component: TSG BF H07 0162
Revision: -------- Serial number: 0000113259001
Coding: 011D07205E00453005080000
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 3B7FA879BA19269ADC-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (J540-) Labels: 7P0-907-801.clb
Part No SW: 7P0 907 801 E HW: 7P0 907 801 E
Component: EPB H51 1100
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: A11203000DD
Coding: 01040000
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkbA7 000006
ROD: EV_ParkbA7.rod
VCID: 356BBE41943DF0EA2A-8060

Slave 3:

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745) Labels: 7P6-907-357.clb
Part No SW: 7P6 907 357 HW: 7L6 907 357 C
Component: AFS-ECU H04 0110
Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
Coding: 010A00010F000400
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFS 005006
ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFS_VW52.rod
VCID: 7CFD6B65F797E1A295-8028

Left Headlamp Power Output Stage:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8U0 941 329 HW: 8U0 941 329 Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
Component: LeiMo links H01 0001
Coding: 130000

Right Headlamp Power Output Stage:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 941 329 HW: 8U0 941 329 Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
Component: LeiMo rechts H01 0001
Coding: 130000

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (R) Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 4G0 035 082 HW: 4G0 035 082
Component: Radio U SIRIU H51 0052
Revision: AB001007 Serial number: 471BZ0B7559054
Coding: 020007020100000001
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 5DBB06E1444D08AA82-8008

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels: 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
Part No SW: 7P6 035 664 HW: 7P6 035 664
Component: H-BN-NA H43 0170
Revision: -------- Serial number: 445BQ0B7511146
Coding: 010200050040E1EE41022B0C00000003F0080101
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 75EB7E41DCBDB0EAEA-8020

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 P
Component: NAR 2010 0407

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 7P6 919 603 C HW: 7P6 919 603 C
Component: DU8 SV Touch H24 0045
Serial number: VWZ8Z9L29004TJ

Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7P6 919 603 C HW: 7P6 919 603 C
Component: DU8 SV Touch H24 0045
Serial number: VWZ8Z9L29004TJ

Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961
Component: CD-Database 1886

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388) Labels: None
Part No SW: 4H0 959 795 B HW: 4H0 959 795 B
Component: TSG HL H09 0162
Revision: -------- Serial number: 0000113189504
Coding: 011C07200000253005080000
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 3A71AD7DB5231F92C7-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502) Labels: 3Y0-907-273.clb
Part No SW: 7P6 907 273 F HW: 7P6 907 273 F
Component: RDKBERU25 H09 0008
Serial number: 10000000023031
ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU25 003006
ROD: EV_RDKBERU25_VW52.rod
VCID: 3F87DC69A6013ABAF0-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer (J345) Labels: None
Part No SW: 7P0 907 383 B HW: 7P0 907 383 B
Component: Anhaenger H07 0100
Revision: 5A001001 Serial number: 00000142347902
Coding: 020D000000000000
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 3777B449863102FA38-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam. Labels: 4L0-910-441.clb
Part No SW: 7P6 907 441 A HW: 4H0 907 441
Component: SG Rueckfahrkamera 0020
Revision: 00H04000 Serial number: 525 PA8J110050
Coding: 0110001
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 3777B449463102FA38-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (----) Labels: 7N0-959-107.clb
Part No SW: 7P6 959 107 HW: 7P6 959 107
Component: HDSG-Modul H10 0611
Revision: 22010001 Serial number: 033100313
Coding: 0533314003
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
ASAM Dataset: EV_HeckkTouar 202135
ROD: EV_HeckkTouar.rod
VCID: 7CFD6B65F797E1A295-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389) Labels: None
Part No SW: 4H0 959 795 B HW: 4H0 959 795 B
Component: TSG HR H09 0162
Revision: -------- Serial number: 0000113043700
Coding: 011C07200000253005080000
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00001
VCID: 3A71AD7DB5231F92C7-806E

No fault code found.

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#2 ·
I have figured out the fault code above is a non working Auxiliary Water Pump 059121012B

Searched here and on the web but not exactly sure of the location, it is in a bracket that is probably attached on the side of the engine somewhere and will take a look when I get home.

If anybody has replaced this part, either at shop or themselves any additional info would be appreciated.
 
#9 ·
Unfortunately on our the connector was fried, pump must have shorted out and fried the connector. I had bought the part and ended up having dealer put in, with a new connector and labor it ran almost $300 but working good since then.
 
#14 ·
Guys, appreciate all help you can give.
Have another thread on this, P261C - Aux Coolant Pump

My Touareg 2013 7P T3, 3.6L VR6 Petrol.

INITIAL ERROR
1 Fault Found:
12348 - Coolant Pump 2
P261A 00 [104] - Open circuit
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 16
Mileage: 102658 km
Date: 2020.01.02
Time: 21:55:39

I googled the part number, plenty avail on aftermarket (incl China). Thought it was very common problem, so I got one, photos are in my above posting. But changing to new one gave rise to same CEL's as OP. After every 2 rides.

AFTER REPLACING COOLANT PUMP
2 Faults Found:
12348 - Coolant Pump 2
P261A 00 [096] - Open circuit
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 120383 km
Date: 2020.09.05
Time: 12:22:30

12351 - Coolant Pump 2
P261C 00 [237] - Short to GND
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 120389 km
Date: 2020.09.05
Time: 12:33:14

I am going to check the relay next, presumably it's located at engine bay, next to cabin air intake well. Also might check the connector again for any wiring shorts etc.

For those who solved it, can kindly guide me. Thanks
 
#17 ·
Thanks for your reply. It was a very difficult find, I did that 5 weeks ago.
But after changing to an after-market pump, it worked for 2 weeks, then showed my above stated dual-errors.

Can you guide me to the relay too, I can't seem to find it, the engine plenum fuse box only had 2 relays in there, not related to pump. Need to check the relay properly before I buy an Original pump as 2nd replacement.

Seems I have the same issue as OP

Thanks
 
#18 ·
I too have the same issue, bought electrical pump from aliexpress for 22$. Replaced it but alarm is still there. The problem is not the pump but perhaps we are misguided. Do you have diagnostics device which can read long coding value?
I have ODBEleven and engine ecu coding shows that the car has 2 electric water pumps(touareg 2011 VR6). I have found one, the other is not electric but mechanical attached to the belt. So can you reffer to the picture i have attached. The hexadecimal value 43 in 5th byte group, do you have it or its onther number?
Because i started to doubt that the car may have 2 pumps. @VWBob has posted his coding and engine ECU also has 43 in 5th byte group. So it must have 2 electric pumps. @G6mdxvct has suggested that it may be behind alternator above oul cooler, and he is perhaps correct. Need to check. I found a water hose entering in the engine but not sure if its a pump.
 

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#21 ·
Did you buy OEM part ? Sometimes non-OEM part does not have the electrical configuration correct so the Touareg ECU thinks the part is still faulty. Had this happen with a Door Lock Actuator for my A4, worked fine but still threw Fault Code in VCDS because the electronics was not set up properly to tell ECU it was working.

2nd, my secondary coolant pump had a bad connector, when I had dealer replace that part they said the connector was bad and replaced that also, has worked fine ever since.
 
#23 ·
Thanks VWBob for your inputs. It's not inconceivable that all 3 of us r9guy, kickboxin and me have same errors after changing. We all bought the imitation part from Aliexpress. I do usually use OEM for critical parts, just that I see this pump as superfluous and wanted to save some bucks just to get the CEL off.

The pump has a 3 pin connect, hence they can't park a relay inside it (relays need at least 4 pins, and one more for canbus signal). So there must be a relay hiding outside somewhere. Once I verify that the relay is fine, I will get a OEM pump on standby, get mechanic to check the connector, If connector is fine, will put in the OEM pump and see how goes. I just want the CEL off.

R9guy-The earlier OEM had intermittent open circuit. The aliexpress one had a Short to GND once. So we can't discount it's failure yet. We ought crack open the old OEM one, see if there is any complex circuitry in there.
 
#24 ·
R9guy, you are quite right there is another coolant valve/pump in our system. Here is the details.
239649

239650


It's has an electrical connection, but our errors don't seem to point that way. Keep this in view.

My parts dealer also showed me purported electrical diagram:-

239652

No. 31/32/33 seems likely to house relay 4H0 951 253 C. Seems next to engine plenum area, but it could also be at the under dashboard too. Will hunt it down once I finish long travels.

-Check condition of relay part no,. 4H0 951 253 C
-Trace the wire colours from there to pump and check for resistance to Pump 2 connector. If it's fine, then suspect likely rogue aliexpress pump. Poor man pays twice !!

Guys, your turn to guide me more......
 

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#25 ·
R9guy, you are quite right there is another coolant valve/pump in our system. Here is the details.
View attachment 239649
View attachment 239650

It's has an electrical connection, but our errors don't seem to point that way. Keep this in view.

My parts dealer also showed me purported electrical diagram:-

View attachment 239652
No. 31/32/33 seems likely to house relay 4H0 951 253 C. Seems next to engine plenum area, but it could also be at the under dashboard too. Will hunt it down once I finish long travels.

-Check condition of relay part no,. 4H0 951 253 C
-Trace the wire colours from there to pump and check for resistance to Pump 2 connector. If it's fine, then suspect likely rogue aliexpress pump. Poor man pays twice !!

Guys, your turn to guide me more......
Nice work . I dont have access to my car right now so can't try anything. But will follow your progress @emailpeter.
 
#27 ·
I have this same code, CEL on, and the parts are on order.
Can I continue to drive the car? Assuming I am keeping an extra sharp eye on the coolant temperature on the dash, of course. I'm thinking, for example, through the city in rush hour is bad idea but on the highway at off hours should be fine right?

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#32 ·

This thread and above one, covers all you need to proceed.
 
#37 ·
You pump motor on pump 2 is gone. I went through this twice and it was the initial signs of what turned out to be a bad head gasket. Hopefully in your case it’s just the pump. Relatively cheap to repair and fix. It’s behind the engine under some heat tape behind the air manifold. Pinch the lines of the two hoses and there’s two torx screws holding it in. Tricky to get at but can be done from either side of the engine. Make sure you purge the air out of the system after and keep an eye on your coolant.
 
#39 ·
My local VW mechanic tested the circuit for this and found that it was good so in his option the ECU needs to be replaced $1,200 and re-coding from VW. I have a replacement pump coming and I will replace on my own. Hopefully its just the pump in my case and not the ECU.
 
#40 ·
Reviving this old thread. During last fault (documented above), I renewed the contact points of socket, it was slightly burnt out. Then put in a new original coolant pump. 16 mths later I am getting CEL again. Same issue, tiring.......

Will recheck the wiring properly again, thereafter will reluctantly get another coolant pump (059 121 012 B). I am quite sure this is a nagging issue with pump design. It has no relay nor fuse, directly controlled from ECU, slightest of deviations, it sends out CEL.

Any insights from those having this problem ?
 
#42 · (Edited)
There is no video on this, my mechanic is handling the 3rd changing of this pump. Ensure you get the original ones, made by Pierburg. And also follow 2 threads
P261C - Aux Coolant Pump | Club Touareg Forum

Replacement of additional coolant pump — Volkswagen Touareg, 3.6 liter, 2012 year on DRIVE2 (www-drive2-com.translate.goog)

Compilation of all three threads will give you enough info to
change pump.

Points to note
- 2 heat cloth covers, one thin for coolant junction, one thick for coolant pump. Ensure they are wrapped back tightly, and not near the hot catalytic, mine smouldered to flames & smoke as they came loose and almost touched cat.

- there is no fuse or relay controlling this pump. 3 wires and plug connects it straight into ECU. Ample china made pumps, best avoid, many here had issues with them. Best to get Peirburg, which is ori, but I can't seem to verify it on the 3rd pump I've bought.

It'd be great if the rest of the participants here chimed in on how they solved theirs. Prob a 5 yr recurring issue....
 
#43 ·
Kicking up an older thread.
Got a CEL the other day. Hooked up VCDS and found I had 2 faults.
12348 - Coolant Pump 2 P261A 00 [096] - Open circuit
12351 - Coolant Pump 2 P261C 00 [237] - Short to GND
I have an OEM pump on bracket unit part# 059 121 012B. Waiting on the harness connector w/pigtails attached and I'll follow the directions in the link of post #42.
Has anyone moved this pump from it installed location to one that's more convenient to work on?
 
#44 ·
Yes, typical 5 yr fault cycle. Proximity to hot Cat, weakens the pump complex circuitry inside. I tried work w mech to relocate pump, very convoluted task. We didn't as the pipes/joints could well leak and cause a bigger issue.

My wire adapter was also fried, charred. Thinking that it was high amp, I added a fuse box on +ve to pump. To protect against shorting or over amp. I've used a 3 & 5A fuse, yet hasn't blown. Meaning so far no high amp passing thru. All this wire plug renew and pump change requires a spineless mech w snake hands. That's why we need prevent by ensuring it's done well.
 
#45 ·
I guess I got lucky as I've had this vehicle for 7 years.
If the proper lines/clamps are used I don't see how leaks could be a problem.
I will replace and leave in it's normal spot for now, but will take measurements of pipes/tubing/clamps to plan on moving in the future.