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From the VW site this morning:
We would like to provide a Goodwill Package to owners affected by the 2.0L TDI emissions issue. Use our VIN look up tool to find out if your vehicle is affected and whether you are eligible to receive the Goodwill Package.
LEARN MORE
Please note that VW Touareg TDI models are not included in this program.

WTF??

Noticed that too. 2 theories:
1) they haven't admitted guilt for the 3L and so there's no reason to apologize for anything
2) we bought a "luxury" vehicle so they'll offer us more (doesn't hurt to hope)

 

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Dido

We have one of her CDs.

 

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Thanks guys, I appreciate your input.

Heh, sorry I couldn't resist. Decided
the thread needed a little humor

 

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I think you're making too many assumptions on my opinions. IMO Nuclear and hydro plants are both exceptional technologies. We know the first one will always face an uphill perception battle (3 mile island) and there is limited physical availability for the latter. Both also cause significant environmental impact when constructed, and nuclear plants pose an environmental risk just by their inherent nature (I'm not saying its an immenent risk, but a 3 mile island scenario is catastrophic).

So coal fired plants unfortunately will most likely be taking up the slack...in the short run anyway.

Some jurisdictions have shut down all coal plants (IMO a good thing) with corresponding hike in power rates (a bad thing). Nuclear and hydro plants don't come cheap, and if we see a huge growth curve that means more infrastructure investment (in lines and plants) and a corresponding hike in prices.

Like I said, the revenue flows won't stop, they will just change forms. When they change forms (as experienced im other industries) prices tend to go upwards. When you're living in both worlds for a while (i.e.: oil and electric) then you'll likely to pay quite a bit more for a while until the technology stabilizes. Ok so this just means bitching and moaning for those of us driving $60K SUVs. It might mean significant household impact for those driving $6K vehicles.

Large scale combined cycle gas turbine plants are the most efficient method to convert fossil fuels into electricity. They are a great option in areas where renewables are not feasible.

 

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Umm...what other conclusion would you draw from self-certification? As an engineer, I read requirements and verification plans very very carefully. If it ain't in the test plan, I ain't doin' it. The EPA never mandated real-world testing...they specified a specific test protocol and said "if you tell us you passed it and show us the score sheet, you're good".

Agreed. This is equally the EPA's fault for designing a non representative system.

 

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Has anyone here ever worked at a big company that contracts to the gov?

Massive bureaucracy on both sides plus lawyers plus international factor means action is very slow. I'll be impressed if a single vehicle is touched before September this year.

 

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Now we wait and see about the big compensation they promised tdi owners..

VW hasn't promised anything. One prominent lawyer is waving his dick around to get attention. Not a bad technique but it's not guarantee of any more money to owners.

 

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Right on. The value of Tesla is not the limited production vehicles but rather how it's forcing the industry to embrace change.

I love my Treg for towing the race car in an enclosed trailer and commuting but when we are forced to venture into SF we always take my wife's Chevy spark ev. It's easy to park and the range is irrelevant when you're in stop and go traffic. also, 300+ ft-lbs of torque at 0rpm in a 3000lb vehicle is a blast, every time.

This thread off topic? On the contrary. This thread is a snapshot of the Touareg community. There's something for everyone in this thread. As for the Tesla, it's an amazing platform. The owner of my company has both a Model S and a Model X (No. 466 off the line). I have driven both. Tremendous. Aside from the awesome torque and quiet ride, the BEST feature is the ability to push software updates to the vehicles. Features are added, problematic issues resolved...all over the air at the time of your choosing. Hands-down that is the best part...a 2-year old Model S gets new features added all the time. Notice, Tesla does not define models by year... Now for my BAD on the Tesla...driving range is not enough for me, though it is for most people. There is no doubt all the big boys are learning from Tesla.

 

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I live in the East Bay Area and there are at least 6 Porsche dealerships and 6 Audi dealerships within 60 miles, honestly probably more but I don't want to get into counting them all. There is an obscenely high concentration of Audis in the bay area, especially Marin and San Jose, and a good majority of them are diesels. I know they are not common in most of the rest of the country, but they are very common all the way between SF and Tahoe. Probably twice as many q7 TDI as there are touareg TDI around here. These are people who routinely pay 5x what the typical jetta buyer pays for a new car, and they typically do it more often. These are very lucrative customers who have had a 75k+ car that has a stop sell on it for nearly 5 months. These customers expect a certain level of quality assurance for their insane price tags. Now they have a car that they can not trade in or even buy if they wanted to? Spending 75k on a car that is now lumped in with the 20k jettas? That is embarassing, and maddening to say the least when you have paid an obscene amount of money for a sedan or SUV. I really think the Audi thing is a bigger issue than people are admitting. A good portion of Audi sales in the bay area were TDI.

Also live in the east bay and see more Q7s than tregs but seems like about equal percentage of diesels.

I'm not convinced that the non-enthusiast understands that VWAG owns Audi. That person also only associates the diesel scandal with VW and Audi is unrelated in his/her mind. Never underestimate how little people care or bother to be informed.

Porsche doesn't give 2 ****s about this because the world is absolutely bonkers with Porsche love right now so they can charge whatever they want for anything they build.

 

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If the car depreciated more than the bank expected, you walk away and they take a loss. This is fairly rare.

Except for a few months last year when Chevy and Fiat dealers in CA were blowing out their small electric cars. First car I ever leased because the price was so low it's almost a free car.

The Treg, however, I purchased because the lease deal was crap.

 

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Smogging in CA is basically the state gov bending to pressure from lobby groups. Just think of it as another form of income redistribution. I'm all for clean air but the verification needs to be intelligent - sniffers posted like DUI checkpoints randomly.

 

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... AND will tow 7700 lbs!

Seriously. My 2013 is a wonderful tow vehicle. I don't want them to change anything.

I'd be happiest if they refunded me the extended warranty i bought and then covered all TDIs bumper to bumper for 10/100k at no cost.