Tyre wear depends on tyre quality. Not on car. The only issue reported was steering wheel shake

 

So, with the stock tyres on the r-line, what mileage are people getting from their Touareg before needing to change tyres?

Also, what size are the tyres on the r-line so I can check prices.

Thanks

 

I do not know on what stock tires was the R-line sold, but here members are reporting up to 30K miles.

There is an UK touareg side if you didn't find it already, mytreg.com

There you'll find R-line owners

And BTW, welcome

 

Thanks. Have registered with the UK site but none of my posts are appearing yet and I was keen to get an idea before tomorrow morning.

Thanks!

 

Tire life has more to do with driving style the almost anything else (I'm assuming a quality tire). Rotating every 5-7 K and proper balance and air pressures will extend your tire life. But this is a + 6,000LBS rig. If you drive hard you will drive off tires fast.

I count on mid-20s and then they are done. They will not have enough tread depth for wet conditions. And it's not easy to change tires when you get into a difficult situation

 

Tyre life will depend on you, the driver, more than anything and the type of journies you make. Long motorway runs will give you more tyre life than city work and lots of parking.

It also depends on whether you are a cheapskate who foolishly and dangerously runs tyres down to the tread wear markers at 1.6 mm or someone who recognises you are driving a 2 ton vehicle and, sensibly and prudently, discards tyres at 4 mm whilst they are still able to clear water on wet road surfaces.

If - hopefully - the latter, then you should see 20-25K. And, of course, you will always replace all 4 tyres at the same time.

As for www.mytreg.com, the guy who deals with new members is currently on his way back to the UK from an off road trek in Portugal so it may be Monday before you get access to post.

http://www.mytreg.com/index.php?/topic/15337-portugal-overland/

 

Tyre life will depend on you, the driver, more than anything and the type of journeys you make. Long motorway runs will give you more tyre life than city work and lots of parking.

It also depends on whether you are a cheapskate who foolishly and dangerously runs tyres down to the tread wear markers at 1.6 mm or someone who recognizes you are driving a 2 ton vehicle and, sensibly and prudently, discards tyres at 4 mm whilst they are still able to clear water on wet road surfaces.

If - hopefully - the latter, then you should see 20-25K. And, of course, you will always replace all 4 tyres at the same time.

As for www.mytreg.com, the guy who deals with new members is currently on his way back to the UK from an off road trek in Portugal so it may be Monday before you get access to post.

Portugal Overland - myTreg forums

Nooby
I have never run what we call in Australia bald tyres but you are quoting 4 mm tread depth with the manufacturer putting max wear indicators at 1.6 mm if they needed changing why don't they put the indicators at 4mm.
The manufacturer performs lots of tests both wet and dry to come to a max wear depth let alone the issue of liability if the tyres were deemed the cause of an accident when they were not down to the wear blocks.

And i am not a cheapskate I own a V10 lol

Regards
Drag

 

Thanks for the answers everyone

 

Nooby
I agree in most part to what you are saying.
The thing that I do want to point out is people that even with good tyres not reducing their speed in the rain.
We have saying drive to the conditions and that is not dependant on your tyres 4mm tread left of 1.6mm left.

regards
Drag

 

+2 with Nooby on pretty much everything - especially his views on tires.

People go crazy on features, spend big bucks on modifications, and then go cheep on tires. The contact patch is the only thing that really matters. If you live in an area where rain or worse (misted roads from frost, ice, snow and the dreaded black ice) once your tires are half way there, your performance maybe half of what they were new.

Some manufactures hold up better then others to the half way point. But for the safety of my family and the best performance of this +6000 pound rig mid 20s and their done. And I only try to get two seasons out of my winter set up.

 

I was driving to work last week and heavy downpour and a Corvette was in the slow lane on the freeway going 50 mph and sliding all over. It was funny this expensive sports car "dead in the water"

The wider you go the need for good tread also.

 

4 mm is a deadline to change tires on this heavy beast.. Why? Lets say because in every corner if I press the gas pedal a little bit more I get oversteering. Thats why, on dry conditions and avoid driving it on rain.. And I have 4mm left

 

We don't have too many rainy days in Southern California that I have to drive on.

Guys on the track always shave their tires for less squirm, but what works on the track for tires should never apply to your daily driver.

 

Continental did a back to back braking test on a wet test track with a VW Golf.

At 50 mph on new tyres with 8mm of tread, the Golf took 36 metres/118 feet to stop.

At the same speed, but with 3mm of tread, it took the Golf 38 metres/125 feet to halt.

At 50 mph on tyres with just 1.6mm of tread, the stopping distance increased to more than 50 metres/164 feet.

At the point where the Golf when fitted with 3mm of tread had stopped, the same Golf fitted with 1.6mm was still doing 27 mph - that's enough speed to maim or even kill a pedestrian.

In some European countries 3mm is the minimum legal tread depth and Michelin recommend changing tyres at 3mm and 4mm for winters because of the drop off in performance.

For the sake of what amounts to a couple of tanks of fuel in the cost of buying my tyres, I'm very happy to stick with my increased safety factor of 4mm for ordinary tyres and 5mm for winters.

 

I think you will find that with NORMAL driving most people will get 30k miles,mine have 20k on them and look almost new. I expect I'll be changing them in 10k mi.

I agree with Nooby,don't wait till the bitter end to make the change. Makes no sense from a safety stand point. BTW, I have had no wheel shake issues from the beginning with a 20012 lux.

 

i am on touareg two now first one was 2.5 ltr 2005 model only got 10 k out of my tyres so when i complained to vw. uk was compasated £500 to replace, i know this would never replace all 4 but it went towards the bill, on purchasing my new tourage 2011 model 3 ltr tdi i asked the question regarding tyre wear and was told by the sales team that as the car was lighter than it previouse model it was sorted. not so i find out 14800miles later my tyres are in the same state as my last touareg tyres were bald at the front on the outer edge but like new on the rear set, so complain to VW UK and was told 14800 was exeptiable to them, why o why do they think less than 5k is an improvment is beyond me. so i am going to purchase a BMW X5 next year so I am showing them who is the BOSS by taking my hard earn money else were, IF we all do this they may sort out this problem we can only hit them were it hurts in their pockets. come on all you car buyers take the stand with me

 

just to let you know i just got 14800 miles out of my 2011 tdi 3ltr one and not happy i only got 10 k out of my 2.5 ltr 2005 model was not happy about that either so not going to buy any more tourages as tyre wear is bad i expect around 30k out of tyres but vw.uk think what i am getting is exeptibal

 

X5 is a tyre eater.. What tires did you buy for your r5?? From Toyo proxes st2 i got almost 50k miles. I believe there was another problem with your car, not normal to me to need new tires after only 10k miles..

 

tourareg MNE thanks for your reply I never did replace the tyres on my 205 as i just sold it back to vw with the tyres that were bald but my 2011 plate has bridgstones on it 225/55/r18 and if VW dont come up with any help to replace them i wont be purchasing any more VW in the near future can you point me in the right direction of brand to replace my worn ones with

 

Toyo tyres are my recommendation always..

 

I went about 65,000 km with my original tires on my T-reg Goodyears, then I replaced them they were about halfway worn down, had a blowout on two wheels with the new tires and now i'm running falken STz05's lets see how long these last.

 

Not all tires are the same VW uses the cheapest to start with ..Talk to an independent tire dealer as to which tire has the best wear characteristics I use Yokohama 60,000 km plus. I own 2005 8 cylinder

 

I think the neatest thing about this particular thread is that we are all coming at it from different countries. So there are some commonalities and a host of differences as it applies to our "common products". Unless the tires are really the same models made in the same places, the best I think I can do is to SWAG (Scientific W A Guess)

So in line with the OP's concern, I would ask what mileage he gets with his current ride on his tires.

So for example, I have experience with 2 brands/models of tires: 1. Good year LS2's (made in Germany) 2. Continental Cross Contacts LX 20's (made in USA)

I took a nail in a non repairable part of the tread @ 35,000 miles on the oem GY LS2's.

The longer story short; Continental Cross Contact LX20's were selected. Tires were R/R =, balanced but NO alignment.

Measurements taken (tire depth gauge) showed very EVEN tread wear, but was 7.5/32nds remaining or 2.5/32nds CONSUMED (starts with 10/32nds) or 14,000 miles per 1/32nd in wear.

Again longer story short, @ app 7,000 miles, the 2nd set or Continental CC LX 20's seem to be on the same or better pace. One wrinkle is the 2nd set has been rotated @ 5,000 miles instead of the VW oem recommendation of 10,000 miles for the GY LS2 oem set. Tire pressure is run at the highway fuel saving VW owners manual recommendation of 3 PSI OVER the VW oem recommendation of 33/38 PSI or 36 psi fronts/41 psi rears.

One other difference is the LX20's come 12/32 nds in instead of 10/32nds in new or with 2/32nd in more tread. So in theory, given the same or better consumption rates, the LX 20's should last a minimum of 28,000 miles MORE than the GY LS2's.

So one upshot is WHEN one decides to take it down. So for example in the US, 2/32nds in is considered legally bald. So if one takes it down with 3/4 32nds in remaining, one will have 9 to 8 32nds of wear @ (say) 14,000 miles or 126,000 to 112,000 miles projected.

 

For reference I've operated 9 sets of tires on the Touaregs and 2 sets on the X5.

I typically run tires year round until they hit close to 5/32". I will then swap them out in the fall or early winter.
Depending on the condition I may then put them back on again for 1 more summer or forget about them.

Hi all,
New here and test driving a R-Line 245 tomorrow.
I've been told there are issues with tyre wear - suggesting you only get 10,000 miles out of a set of tyres.
Is this correct and what distances are you all getting out of a set of tyres?
Thanks

No, it is a very low estimate. You should get 15,000-20,000 minimum off a brand new set of OEM tires (and likely more).
Depending on what you replace it with, your driving conditions, and driving style you will likely get 30,000+ out of a replacement set.

My experience is OEM Pirelli and Continentals have not performed well on the Touareg. By OEM I mean coming on the vehicle, I cannot speak to standard off the shelf replacement versions.
Michelins are good, and I have no experience with Goodyear but the reviews seem to be all over the place.

i am on touareg two now first one was 2.5 ltr 2005 model only got 10 k out of my tyres so when i complained to vw. uk was compasated £500 to replace, i know this would never replace all 4 but it went towards the bill, on purchasing my new tourage 2011 model 3 ltr tdi i asked the question regarding tyre wear and was told by the sales team that as the car was lighter than it previouse model it was sorted. not so i find out 14800miles later my tyres are in the same state as my last touareg tyres were bald at the front on the outer edge but like new on the rear set, so complain to VW UK and was told 14800 was exeptiable to them, why o why do they think less than 5k is an improvment is beyond me. so i am going to purchase a BMW X5 next year so I am showing them who is the BOSS by taking my hard earn money else were, IF we all do this they may sort out this problem we can only hit them were it hurts in their pockets. come on all you car buyers take the stand with me

My personal experience with the OEM X5 Michelin Run-Flats was 42,000 miles. The dealer then asked over $500/ea to replace.

That is in line with my experience on replacement tires for the Touareg which have been Nokian WR G2. The Nokians give around 30,000 of good winter performance and another 10,000+ of 3 season.

The BMW will never give the same pleasure to drive as the Touareg and is less comfortable to drive as well.

I agree with nooby that you need a good alignment on your Touareg.
It is not uncommon for Touaregs coming out of the factory to have camber on the front wheels causing uneven wear.
I would strongly consider going to another dealer or independent shop since it doesn't sound like your personal dealer has a clue about this issue.

Personally I took a stand after the service experience with my 2004 Touareg and went with the X5 in 2008 as my new daily driver. I regretted it daily.
I decided that for me, the Touareg is worth the potential aggravation with VW. The benefit and enjoyment outweigh the negatives.
Since then I replaced the X5 with a new 2013 and also purchased a CPO 2011 for my DW.

 

OP had concerns about mileage for an R-line. Article in today's Brisbane (Courier Mail) newspaper caught my eye on this very subject. The article is talking kilometers too, not miles. I had kind of wondered why my V10 had non-original - and not new - rubber at 17K kilometers. Mine also had an elderly owner. Dub

 

My 2011 TDI Exec came with what I think is the same tire size as the R line: 275x45x20 Goodyear LS2s and they have 57,000 kms (35,000 miles) and are at 5/32 tread depth. Wear is very even, they have been rotated when the front rear difference is 1/32 (I think twice). Although the tire grip has been OK, they have gotten noisy, and I am replacing them 50% based on wear and 50% because I cannot stand the noise any more. My Michelin snows are quieter!

I also had Goodyear LS2s on my 2009 TDI Touareg, and although they wore well, they were even noisier, earlier. I would have replaced them sooner, but replaced the car instead.

Under no circumstances would I recommend the Goodyear LS2s.

BTW I have had no steering wheel shake with this or the older Touareg. Both cars have had around 10,000 kms of small house trailer towing.

 

Tires/Tyres! Everyone's favorite topic! I'm on my 3rd T3. The most miles I logged was on the '13 Exec, equipped with 20" Pirelli Scorpion Verdes. At 11,800 miles they were wearing very evenly. Probably would have lasted to 20K-25K. I really liked the Pirellis. The Touareg is a beast and any tire that meets the load specs and wears evenly and lasts > 20K miles is probably a good choice. I would buy the Pirellis again because their highway driving characteristics seemed a perfect match for the Touareg.

Full Disclosure: I value summer driving performance highest, followed by rain performance. I don't much care about snow/ice or off-road. The Pirellis are near-perfect for my needs.