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Off-road tires on 19 wheels

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#1 ·
Does anyone have off-road tires on 19 wheels? I want to put KO2 but not sure what tire size to use so it's as big as possible but at the same time doesn't rub. Anyone use 19?
Or I will be better of buying used 18 wheels?
 
#2 ·
18-in wheels you will hands down get hundreds more options in off-road tires. With that said you'll also lose a good bit of handling.

255/55/19 tends to be the tire size most commonly used. The KO2 are nice but there are plenty of other nice tires you can find in that size. It's roughly 5% difference from stock... Around 1/6 of an inch skinnier and around 1/6-in taller I believe and also slightly more rim protection as the sidewall is a little bigger
 
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Not a huge difference, honestly I wanted stock dimensions but that's just not feasible for what I need. But it definitely fills out the wheel wells a little bit.
 
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Definitely agree with that, they look strange with street sweeper tires that so many people put on them. I just have too much utilitarian need for my Touareg for pedestrian all seasons or all weathers anymore.
 
#11 · (Edited)
Purchased a set of used 18s with almost new KO2s to use in place of the 20" Mallorys. Glad I bought the additional set of wheels as the KO2s make me appreciate the 20" performance tires on long highway jaunts. The 18s are great for any off road use which is very mild and infrequent for me. I couldn't' imagine running all year on the KO2s, probably drive me up a wall. And they are supposedly on the quiet side for this type of tire. Of course my Treg is my retirement vehicle so the comfort is more of a priority than utility for me and the spousal unit. Here it is on 18s.
 

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#12 ·
The KO2 are great tires! Way more than I need though. Completely agree on the 20s, no comparison in handling and road manners vs an 18
 
#20 ·
the standard tires dimension of my car are 265 50 r19, and are 100% for asphalt.
19" off road wheel is not very common around here, it's easier to find 17, 18, 20 inches.
I'm looking for a tire size that I can use on the 19 wheel, without changing the suspension lift or a larger size and I do a 2 inch lift on the car, always keeping the 19 wheels.

There is almost no touareg off road here, I've never seen one of the 2012 model, only the older 2008 model, and the tire sizes are different
 
#22 ·
Are you looking for suggestions for pavement tires?

I saw the photo of your car and I liked it very much, very beautiful the car and the set of wheels and tires turned out great
Thank you I appreciate it 😎
 
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Agree
 
#28 ·
Not an issue, the factory builds in a margin so the speedo always reads high and I assume it is to give some small leeway in preventing speeding offences and the inevitable lawsuites that follow.

In my case the new tyres 255/55/19 now make the speedo read just 1 KPH higher than my GPS readings so pretty well spot on but still JUST higher than actual.
 
#29 ·
Once you fellas are fitting larger tires, is there a way to edit the new size in VCDS so the Speedo and odometer are accurate?
There isn't
Not an issue, the factory builds in a margin so the speedo always reads high and I assume it is to give some small leeway in preventing speeding offences and the inevitable lawsuites that follow.

In my case the new tyres 255/55/19 now make the speedo read just 1 KPH higher than my GPS readings so pretty well spot on but still JUST higher than actual.
That's true, but now the odometer will read wrong
 
#32 ·
How accurate is the odometer on stock tyres?
The odometer will now be off whatever percentage variance you have in your new tires. If the new tires are 3.5% bigger, odometer is reading 3.5% fewer miles. If your tires are 3.5% smaller, odometer is now reading 3.5% additional miles.

So let's pretend you install tires 3.5% larger (which is a somewhat common increase on Touaregs). You travel 400 miles on your tank. 400 miles x 0.035 = 14. 400 miles travelled plus 14 is 414 miles total travelled.

When I fitted 255 60 r19 on my EGG, the speedo became spot on. I measured the speed with the GPS. Before the new tires, speedo was a bit agog.
Nothing new. German speedometers have been electronically calibrated roughly 3% fast since somewhere in the early to mid 90s as a Euro requirement to ensure it never reads too slowly. Odometers are still electronically programmed to read spot-on.
 
#34 ·
I'm having a little bit of doubt in accepting that the odometer is spot on when the range of OE tyre / wheel options is so vast. Personally I have always accepted that both are indicative and consequently hope that the GPS speed reading is more accurate. I haven't bothered to do the math but even new to legally worn tyres introduces an error.
 
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Doubt it all you want, it's been a programming thing since at least the 90s

The different tire and wheel sizes don't matter because I think (and now that you've opened that I'm gonna obsess and look) that overall circumference remains identical.
 
#36 ·
Just did the math. The circumference between the factory 18s and 20s all falls within 1-2% overall circumference of one another, all within the ~3-5% buffer the stock odometer has programmed
 
#40 ·
The 265/50R19 were OE on my Touareg - the approved winter tyre is 235/65R17 - they aren't the same diameter - there are other minor differences as the rim size changes.
Yes they are - overall circumference is within a little over 1% lol. BTW those are some funky ass sizes you come with there!
Winter tire sizes aren't fair to compare as they like to suggest narrower sizes to cut through the snow better (my guess, but I have noticed snow/winter tires are generally narrower).

Here is the math on your two sizes, Black Grouse. 1.4% difference in diameter and circumference.

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#41 ·
A vigorous influencer's wide-vs-narrow tire war is afoot. Take it with a grain of salt. Caveat emptor is your best friend!
From my Jeepin' days experience, I will take pizza cutters over off-road cosplay wide tires any day.
Added benefit of skinny tires is a diminished chance of rubbing at full lock and full flex. Better snow, rain and muck performance than wide tires.
VW making winter size narrower is the clear example of them knowing something about the subject!
 
#45 ·
From my Jeepin' days experience, I will take pizza cutters over off-road cosplay wide tires any day.
+1 Any good offroad tire already has tough sidewalls, and tread on the sides, so when you need the width for flotation, you can get it anyways without the noise, weight, drag, etc. of wide tires. On loose surfaces have a lot more ability to steer and avoid sideways slippage with a narrow but tall tire.

I've noticed other german offroad vehicles: unimogs, g-wagens, etc. always go for tall but narrow tires also, even on the extreme portal axle models

I've had great luck offroad with 245mm KO2s on my Touareg... even on the softest sand it doesn't sink, no issues.