I would say it is true.
I was at my dealers here in Hamilton yesterday and he said they are only a few weeks away too. End of the month to be exact.
Looking forward to seeing one in the flesh.

 

had breakfast at Hamilton yesterday, then back to Drury. will head to newmarket either later on today or t'row to check it out.

 

Yeah, it's only because the Kiwi's won the 4-nations match last night! Winner takes all!

 

tracks

perhaps oilslurper!..... the tracks around auckland are pretty interesting, wish we had similar close to Sydney...few pics of the fun we had......all this without any damage ...

 

With all the rain we have had lately, there are few tracks that look like those here! That second pic is a ripper. They’ve got a good bow wave going, of mud!

 

I wonder what the 150kw diesel option is? that'd be my pick if I can get the Terrain Tech pack with it.

Having said above, my engine shudder is back, and I'm not sure I want to be in love with a relationship where even though it gets serviced at a VW dealer, to schedule, always looked after by vw, and yet, they can't seem to keep it going.

Is the car too complicated to maintain?

Needless to say, I'm shooting off test drive requests at the moment (and it's not to VW dealers).

 

Singh,

The dealer release was last weekend, and the units are on sale now.

I had a look at a V8 diesel today.

Looks more cayenne like than the previous model.

Slightly higher spec than the V10 was

 

I'm surprised how the Kiwi's got the Touareg earlier than us Aussies! In fact I see more exotic cars in NZ than in Sydney!

 

hey Singh, I see a v8 tdi in our future!!!!!!!!!!

 

Singh,
While you are there, can you see if you can get some "real" specs of the drivetrain... (ie gear ratios, diff ratio, etc) to work out how badly you will be affected by lack of low-down crawl-ability if you go for the big engine and can't get the terrain-tech pack (LR gearbox). I haven't been able to find out those secrets yet.
Otherwise you need to take one for a drive, and write down the speed in km/hr that you are doing at 2000RPM in low gear. As you know that is where my Q fails - I can't go slow enough to tackle things without risking damage.
Also, just ask casually if there is a full-sized spare option...

 

The V8 I looked at didn't have a full size spare, but the space in the compartment almost looked big enough to fit one.

The V8 didn't have the extra battery in the boot that the V10 has, so that might have added to the "space" appearance.

The napa leather is very nice.

I'll try the 2000 rev thing for you

Cheaper than the V10 was

 

Rather nice option on the V8TDI - 4Zone AirCon + 100L fuel tank !! I could live with that. Hate the idea of an 85L tank.

 

good to see the wading depth has been increased.
great to see the offroad pack which will give us the standard 100ltrs fuel carrying capacity, undercarriage protection, diff locks etc ...at a reasonable cost.
pretty good 0-100 & fuel consumption figures!
so many boxes to tick on the options list...time to ask the boss for a raise

 

note the 'automated activation of hazard lights under full braking'...bit like formula 1
also bluetooth handsfree appears to be standard.... vow

 

Also note the 3-year, unlimited km warranty!

 

Adding up the extras the 4.2TDi will come in round the $160,000 dollar mark by the looks. Wonder what the US cost is ?

 

i think in aus they will be considerably cheaper than nz.

base model tdi $75k v8 with fruit $125k??
cayenne tdi is $115k drive away with sat nav etc

 

seems like we wont be able to get the V8 with terrain pack...might have to hold onto the v10 for a few more years....

 

..................and, get a seriously better proposition after depreciation kicks in. That's my tact with T3. The other factor is the new model "unknowns", like possible recalls and mod programs/updates after post-release. I guess in your case, and probably the rest of us also, is balancing the resale on our current Tregs and opting for say, a 2011 model after it's been out a few years. I'd be looking at a 2013 changeover on a V6TDI. I guess if you can do a business lease, then it won't matter for some.

 

I concur oilsurper, a good vw is always a second hand one (let the previous owner do the hardwork of sorting it out).

But, my treg is going through another bout of 'don't know what the problem is' cycle atm, and I"m not sure I'll have the patient to stick with it for another 18 months. Been test driving, I'm so impressed with a GL Class at the moment (and a Prado is lined up for tomorrow), only problem is lots of people tell me MB don't know how to make reliable air-suspension (like the French do).

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But, my treg is going through another bout of 'don't know what the problem is' cycle atm, and I"m not sure I'll have the patient to stick with it for another 18 months..

This bit gets me angry.............'cause it's bloody VW's problem. There's not enough dealer tech expertise to fix their own bloody vehicles! So, then it becomes "your problem". It's not how it's supposed to work is it? So, 2011 Treg........think VGA are not going to present the same problems with inexperienced techs? Am I right? I'm lucky, our local dealer has a great diagnostic tech. It matters! This is the difference between VW and Toyota. Toyota have the base and it's why you buya a Toyota when you live out in 'Whoop Whoop"......you know, out past the black stump, past the last dunny going west.

 

i guess nothing is perfect. lets see what the new Touareg brings, atleast all issues from the past should be gone. The new ones will keep many amused for a while.....perhaps there wont be many....

 

I don’t understand why the V6 is in any way a limitation. At 176kw and 550nm it muscles with the big pack. Here in Oz the LC 200 may have a little more grunt but the Treg thrashes it 0-100. And the LC200 has serious issues off road. The 70 series Toyota, which is the true off roader, has less grunt from its 4.5l engine than the Treg. Flicking through the 4x4’s available here the Disco 4 seems to be the only other vehicle with more ponies. But it must have 19in wheels because of the brakes. If the V6TDI Treg could have some off road options, like snorkel, bull bar, under body protection then a lot more people would take notice of it. More power is secondary.

 

I am guessing Moonan is referring to the fact that only the V6 TDI is offered with TTP, i.e. the others in the range are the one with the limitation.

The other issue I'm thinking may affect off-road capability is if 200kg of structural steel is missing, replaced with hippie plastic, and the whole thing stretched 50mm, it'd be a less rigid car.

 

L99, you are of course right, but we have to say these things quietly because of Singh and his mates with the V10 fetish
Bare, yes to your first assumption, but I'm not so sure about the second. The way I read it, it's all about what they don't say in the publications....
The way I read it, the lost weight is to build a minimum "reference" model to meet the EU standard for green vehicles. By making the terrain-tech (4Xmotion) an option they don't have to weigh it for testing fuel economy.
VW have actually stated that it is a more rigid construction than the previous model..
So, don't lose hope yet!

 

LR evoque, which is also being released next year will be a close contender. The looks are pretty sharp n attractive. Plus, similar to the Touareg, there will be choice of off road pack or without it. similar pricing.

 

I'm just waiting for the FWD Treg......it's going to happen surely? You know, the one you drive in the city. Every other mass maker is doing one. Toyota (Kluger), Ford (Territory), Hyundai and Kia. Hyundai and Kia basically watered down their 4x4 capability and urbanised their new models. I'm already over the 2011 Treg. It will be better then it's predecessors in many ways with technology and refinement. But I suspect it won't be as versatile and it will be an SUV. I give LR the nod for 4x4'ing the D4. Still won't buy one though. I'd go for the Prado D4D any other day out of the Treg. It's got all-round appeal and Toyota will sell heaps of 'em over here.

 

Moonan, you asked about the gearing:

redline is 5000 rpm in V8.

1st gear @2000 rpm is 20kph
8th gear @1200 rpm is 100 kph

The gearing did not feel any where near as low as the old model in 1st low ratio.

Seating position is better, and the seats themselves are more supportive, with more effective side bolsters.

The steering feels more positive, and the steering wheel felt smaller, but not sure if it is.

Noise level is lower until accelerated hard, when there is a very nice V8 burble.

The air suspension is now a nitrogen sealed system, and there is no airtank in the boot. There is a small compressor for tyres.

There is no room for a full sized spare wheel in the boot.

The V8 does not have an option of extra diffs, but the V6 TDI does. VW don't expect to sell many (if any) in New Zealand.

Ride and acceleration feel the same as the V10, but as the Tourage had done less than 1000km I don't think it fair to judge. There is a lot of power waiting to get out.

It does feel lighter on the road, and the difference in frontal weight can be felt in the steering. It points in faster than the V10, and feels more precise when cornering.

I didn't have enough time to set the steering up as I have in my car, and the set up was manual, and not electric.

Rear seats fold electrically, and the rear tailgate has the electric lift fitted standard.

The car I drove was the base V8, and it is a very high spec.

The V6 is specced lower, and does not have air suspension standard.

Cost in NZ is around $130,000+ compared to the V10 which was $150,000+ when it was last sold.

Economy looks better, but again hard to measure on a road test car that gets pushed.

The dealer advised that the V6 TDI blue motion gets better than 8.5 l/100k

 

100kays at 1200rpm sounds good. wonder above what speed it'll shift to 8th. the V10 shifts to 6th only above 80.