Can't wait to get mine tuned. Not sure what to make of the Canadian 3.0tdi fix though. Should I wait or just do it...

 

I've not heard of any fix, in fact I was speaking with a VW dealer service rep and they hadn't received any info either so I decided just to got for it. Can always put back to stock, I'll be keeping all the parts, just in case.

j

 

When I did my tune on a 2012 I felt the dpf delete pipe woke it up almost more than the tune. You will like the pipe!

 

Hopefully I'll get the pipe on today, looking forward to results for sure, have you seen any increase in fuel economy? How long have you had it installed? And did you leave the stock muffler on?

Thanks,

j

 

No increase in fuel economy. Had it on for about 35,000 miles. Left the stock muffler on, slight increase in the exhaust note. VW bought the Touareg back. Now I have a 2015 Cayenne diesel.

 

Whoa NICE... so now that you have driven both, appreciable differences? What is the "fix" in respect to Diesel gate for the 3.0 TDi diesels I've not heard really anything here in Western Canada and will you have to execute one on the Cayenne?

Thanks for your insights.

j

 

Once my Touareg is out of warranty, I'm planning the same tune, and DPF/Adblue delete. I'm also trying to decide if I should wait for the fix, in order to get the sorry money, and they do the tune and delete after the fix. I'm also wondering if the software fix would mess with the stage 2 tune? I'm from NS but last week I drove through the Coquihalla highway, and highway 97 in a crappy Nissan Altima rental car. I was wishing I had my Touareg the whole way!!! Those are quite the highways, and that car didn't enjoy trying to sustain those speeds at all like a TDI Touareg would.

 

Your version of Treg will be a beast with a Malone stage 2 with Rawtek exhaust. 2012 is a nice update for sure, the 2013 and newer engine model responds very well indeed to exhaust and performance files. I'm not complaining very please with results but on paper the 2013 and newer models will be really quick for what they are.

j

 

99hp increase sounds out of the "safe zone" for me. Where I live, removing the DPF would not allow me to sell the car very legally, so the filter has to sit inside the garage until the time comes.
But I'm sure I'll end up doing a Revo stage 1 and DPF removal soon, with a nice new exhaust. Those V6 TDIs sound really good when you get to hear them.
I'd say get a stage 1 chip tune, and if you have the cash, make it loud. That at least is safe and will not affect economy.
Ok, economy will be affected. The engine could be even more economical after the tune, but you will be driving like a teenage idiot after a 50hp bump. I know I would.

 

The benefit (as I see it) for the AdBlue delete is you will not have to mess with it or the heater and pump failures that seem to be somewhat common. In my application (2012) it's a digital turn off of systems, also removes the DPF and SCR units. AdBlue injector stays in place, the new exhaust is a direct bolt on "(off road)" application. In respect to the environment, this system didn't meet specs in the first place and by increasing fuel mileage (what I'm told is a result) along with no more regens (read bumping raw fuel into the DPF and burning off) should be beneficial.

In respect to wear and tear, I'm thinking there will be additional wear on tires and brakes, engine longevity I can't say, really depends on how you drive and maintain it I'm thinking. Fuel economy is increased is what I'm told, hard to say now due to spirited driving. The missus seems to get a kick out of blowing around corners on two wheels and mashing by everyone in sight. Hopefully that will pass..... The transmission I'm told is a very robust unit and can handle the extra ponies and torque. Prior to I would typically see 8.2-8.6 litres per 100 Kms, the fun factor is too high at the moment looking forward to see what the future holds.

These vehicles are so refined (least compared to my 97 Ford powerstrokes), it's a challenge to judge rate of speed, due to superior handling and minimal road noise for a 5000lb vehicle. Was on a major divided highway going to Vancouver Friday for the tune and digital deletes, legal speed limit is 120 kph, I'm eating an apple driving one handed enjoying the autumn view looks down and I'm way North of 120.... like 150kph, rock solid. Coming home paying attention, not gonna say how fast it will go but I did over drive my new Hakkipellita 9 studded ice radials and I was not even near full throttle.... cheers.

j

 

50...99hp none of those touch the limit of trans or engine remotely....ive been pushing well over 99 more hp for last 50k..launching, drifting, bigger tires. Not had a single hiccup. This isnt a domestic vehicle it was over built from square 1....this thing reels in blacktop at a fast pace.

Out of power it makes better mileage because there is no breathing issues, removes tons of unneeded weight and it requires less of the engines total output to maintain regular speeds

 

Drifting? I have never managed to lose traction with the Touareg (and with this weight, I really don't want to). What mods do you have on it?

 

It's easy on a good gravel road. Simply turn the ESP off and go crazy with the right pedal and lots of opposite lock. If you haven't done it in your Touareg, then you don't know what you are missing. It is one of the best vehicle for power slides I have ever owned, even better than my Supecharged 350 kW LS1.

Just go ad do it, you will never look at your Touareg the same way again!

Stuart....

 

Well it's definitely got enough torque to spin the wheels on gravel. I'll try it come first snow in a parking lot, should be fun.
I wish AWD cars had a switch for AWD ON/AWD OFF and stay in RWD by default. Better economy, more fun... my 2001 Ford Ranger has this. I did donuts with the Ranger, I'm sure I can be extremely immature on snow with the T as well.
The owner's manual says something about two-stage deactivation of traction control(this is a T3). Press and hold for 3 seconds for stage 1, press and hold 10 seconds for stage 2.

 

I did a few power slides last year in the snow. It can do it, but I can see loosing it being easy too. And we may get 5-10cm by Friday!!

 

I have had a Malone stage 2 tune on my 2012 since 2014 and the only thing I regret about it is that I w a i t e d to get it. Should have done it right away. Fuel consumption actually got better, by about 0.4-0.5 l/100km. I love driving it in S mode, without going crazy, simply because it pulls so much nicer.

I, too, may or may not have visited an empty Home Depot parking lot with plenty of snow and explored the drifting behaviour of the T'reg. I find it is extremely balanced. It does not want to kick out the rear wheels and get away from you. Drifting is with all four wheels, easily controlled. It does have enough mass, though, to drift..and drift..and drift, so it is good to watch your speed.

I would not drift on a gravel road....images of rock showers hitting the rocker panels and fenders......

Aaaargh....still can't believe that VW will have to buy that one back.....I am not sure I can replace it with anything as fun and (almost) reasonable in price.

 

The Rawtek exhaust made a significant improvement on performance in freeing up exhaust flow. On ours once the DPF and SCR was removed the felt set o' the pants improvement is noteworthy for sure, enhances the Malone Stage 2 significantly and noise is not that much different from inside the vehicle. Fit and finish of exhaust is exceptional given it's a bolt on conversion. Very pleased with the overall affects.

 

I want to hear it. Post a video or sound clip please. From the inside and outside.

 

The sound is not materially different from the inside. Outside is not really noteworthy I think, unless one pulled the stock suitcase muffler off. Would be interested to see if someone has done that and or knocked out the extra plug holes in the suitcase and plumb in additional ends into stock tips. Don’t have time at the moment for sound clips.

 

gutting the suitcase muffler does nothing...sound is the same. Remove it and just straight pipe way different...much more turbo

 

Thanks for the insight tdimark69. Can you explain Cayenne transmission mapping and provide a comparison interested in how this works and the benefits.

Thanks again.

j

 

You have to turn the traction control off and not just at the switch.
If you turn it off the accelerator pedal is still modulated and the timing is retarded.

My SS LS1 doesn't do much until about 3000rpm then it takes off then it slides out on the change into 2nd.

 

Just picked up my '13 Taureg. I would like more information on the tuning and parts you are conversing about. Could you point me in the direction to look these up?
Thanks, KWD

 

Googe malone tuning for model (240hp 3.0v6 TDI) and buzzken or rawtek for the SCR/DPF delete kits

 

Do a search on Malone tuning as well as JR tuning.
For exhausts check out Rawtek and Buzzken.

Has your new Touareg had the emissions fix done on it? If not I’d wait until after that is completed then do works on your ride. Do you have emissions testing in NY state? That may impact what you choose to do. Where I live there are no emissions testing.

What I did with my 2012 was install a Stage two Malone tune (I went right to their shop), in time I may get a Flashzilla to store tunes on then I can load and unload tunes if I choose. To remove the DPF and SCR exhaust sections and replace with aftermarket Rawtek or Buzzken mid pipes and turn off makes a significant performance improvement, least it did on ours. I also turned off the AdBlue injection system as this seems to be an ongoing concern with pump failures etc. So far pleased with results.
Hope that helps.

j

 

if your in the states contact andrew at fixmyvw......if your in canada ken (buzzken) is the man he is my tuner and my jr stage 3 has been rocking for last 2 years....not even remotely the same vehicle now...over 30mpg...close to 400hp and just an animal