Don't put this or any other gloop into your gearbox. No the gearbox doesn't share the engine oil. Change the ATF at around 60k no additional additives required.

Why are you even considering adding this stuff?

 

I just put a bottle in the engine oil.

Not recommended for anywhere else that I know of.

2016 TDI

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I believe in Liquimoly products. Talked to Stephan who does customer support and he confirmed this was great to use the motor oil of a v6 TDI. Once every 20,000 miles is recommended. Ceramic is inert and helps smooth out internal surfaces. I have used a bottle in my oil about 4k mile ago.

 

Smoothing out internal surfaces is bad for wear - it retains less oil when the engine is off which in turn causes more wear at start-up.

 

I used it on my snowblower and noticed a difference right away.

 

Apologies. Let me clarify. It’s to go in the engine oil. The transmission oil is a separate thing right? I read something which said not to use in engines with wet clutch. As you would then reduce friction on the clutch. Hence me asking. Hope that helps.

so. Ok to put in engine oil. 🙃

 

You don't have clutch in an automatic. Oil is not shared between the engine & the gearbox. If you want your engine to last longer then replace the oil regularly. No need to add anything.

It can be used in the engine oil if so desired. You may have to drain some off or it will be overfilled.

 

Like Slick 50 back in the day? Ok so maybe some benefits

. A snow blower isn't really a fair comparison!!

What improvement did you notice it in your Touareg?

 

Like Slick 50 back in the day? Ok so maybe some benefits

. A snow blower isn't really a fair comparison!!

What improvement did you notice it in your Touareg?

Definitely hard to notice improvements. But that goes with most products. Kindof like taking vitamins.. do you feel any different.. probably not.. are you getting sone benefit.. possibly. Depends on whether you were low on a particular vitamin.
High end oils like what the Touareg uses us plenty of lubrication.. but I figured it might help with wear in the long run. Who knows.. maybe I am drinking the coolaid.

 

Ceratec can also be used in manual transmissions and differentials without LSD's. It is confusing on the instructions because it does say "add to engine or transmission oil", but if you go to the Liqui-Moly site and read about it, it specifically mentions manual trans and diffs.

Cera Tec

 

I have been using it in my 2012 3.0 TDI since I bought it used a couple of years ago. I bought it at 95 K miles and now have 140 K miles on it. I suspect it makes some difference, but I used it to hope that it would prolong the life of the timing chains and associated parts.
It leaves a hard ceramic coating on both bearing surfaces and seems to do no damage and might be a little smoother, but spending that much money on pour in stuff make you feel that way.
Also I used LiquiMoly Moly additive in my 20. l JSWs and one had 280 K miles when VW bought it back and the other 60 K miles.

 

I wanted to update this, I used the Ceratec in my A4 during the oil change the other day. I can 100% say the engine is quieter. It's not a Night and day difference but there is a strong noticeable difference.

 

Hi guy's, is there someone who use it to R5 2.5 2008 BPE? It is some improvements there? Or it is suitable for this "special" engine? Because this engine have also special VW engine oil norm, VW 506.01

 

Not If you have a DPF fitted because then you must use VW507.00 and not 506.01.

 

yeees this I know, but I ask globally for R5, not important if with DPF and VW507 or VW506, I try to ask otherwise. Someone use Ceratec to R5, if yes, to which model with DPF or w/o?

 

I've used it in my '11... in the oil not the transmission. Honestly... it didn't make a s@#$t bit of difference to performance/gas mileage/oil consumption. Maybe on a minuscule scale it helps but not so much that you'll notice.

 

There has to be something wrong with the engine for it to show an improvement after using it.

 

In what context do automatics not have clutches?

 

Additional additives in oil is a gamble that i prefer not to undertake. I buy the best oil I can from suppliers I trust and rely on their formulations and engineering. Some additives may be worthwhile but 90+% is just marketing and its impossible to tell the <10% that may help versus those that may actually make it worse.

The price generally reflects the quality of the oil your buying. Lower price generally means they have compromised somewhere. These day I buy Redline gear oils and Penrite top of the range engine oils for all my cars. I would buy Redline engine oils and did for my race cars but the Penrite 10 tenths range of engine oils performs the same at significantly lower price here in Australia as the imported Redline has a big mark up compared to the local Penrite equivalent. However no one makes gear oils like Redline

 

As far as additives are concerned all oils have them. So there really shouldn't be an issue sticking more in unless the one you're using isn't necessary.

I've used Penrite since before you could get it in synthetic.

10 10ths has zinc in it which should be good for the R5's particularl cam issues but it isn't 506.01 or 507.01 rated.
The C2 Enviro is, but an "environmentally safe" oil wouldn't have zinc.
I don't know what it is that gives C2 its rating, that's why I was considering Cera Tec.

 

The problem is potential interaction with after market additives with what's included in the original oil. You just dont know if its going to be positive or negative.

 

You'd think that Liqui Moly for instance would take that into consideration but I can't see them rebuilding your engine.

 

I am sure they cannot take into account every possible interaction with every possible oil and i agree they will not rebuild you engine if they got it wrong

 

good lord, people here are dumb and cant even read proper instructions. just give the fella the answer he is asking for and stop giving your useless opinion

 

Hi Wey
You joined 9 hours ago and have one post which is a non specific general response to an old post that could be applied to any thread on this site... ... I say Bot...... prove me wrong and respond

 

I have used Ceratec since I bought the 2012 TDI exec. I used VW oil until I could no longer get the Castrol. I switched to the LiquiMolly then. I add on can of Ceratec to the oil fill mostly to (perhaps) keep the chains and sprockets in better shape.
If it is doing it's job you may never know as the engine just keeps on running until something else breaks and makes it uneconomical to repair...
In this case no news might well be good news.
The added boron ceramic smoothing and hardening the surface of the wear parts is a good thing and would make no difference to oil retention on startup. It might make cold starts produce less wear as the harder surfaces might protect for the second before oil pressure builds up.
Only time will tell if this is money pissed away, money spent wisely, or money to cause more problems. Then it will still be hard to tell still.
My hope is that the timing chains will live until my old(er) age and the car runs like the Eveready Bunny.
So far so good.

 

A little science-y background on the Liqui Moly(bdenum) product and the patented tech behind it, discovered by the US Army in Germany and used by fighter pilots when their engine oil tanks were hit:

And yes, the stuff can apparently go into transmission oil as well.

Molybdenum disulfide - American Chemical Society

American Chemical Society: Chemistry for Life.

www.acs.org

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liqui_Moly