A while back I asked if anyone ever tried Ceratec, didn't get any responses so I decided to try it myself and thought I'd share my experience in case any one is interested.

After extensive online research I bought two cans of Ceratec from Amazon to be used in my Tiguan and Touareg. Tiguan was the first guinea pig and from what I can tell the results were really really good even though I don't drive this car much. If some of you know the 2.0T is rather noisy little engine, well not after the Ceratec treatment. I can say with certainty that the noise was significantly reduced, it gets better MPG and feels a bit peppier, even my wife noted that. So far I have 2000 miles on this oil/ceratec and everything is going great.

The Touareg; With my last oil change I switched from Castrol (dealer filled) to a Penzoil Ultra 5w-40 which right a way made the engine sound better. For some reason I never had a good experience with Castrol in any of my turbo/supercharged vehicles, that oil never made engines "shine" so to speak not to mention mediocre Blackstone reports. I olny used Castrol because it was free (dealer filled) but I would never willingly pay for it nor would I recommend it to anybody. Anyhow, after a few days on a new Penzoil I decided to add Ceratec and all I can say is WOW! what a difference that made. It took about 20-25 miles to take a full effect. The engine is so quite now that sometimes I can't even tell it's on. The morning startups were somewhat noisy (30-45 sec), well, not anymore. The engine is without a doubt feels quieter, stronger and smoother. Under a hard load I can now hear my supercharge's whine clearer, not that it makes more whine but because of a reduced engine noise. I know some of you will say it's a placebo effect but I disagree, one can definitely tell a difference, especially if you're like paying attention to every detail, squeak, etc... I think I just fell in love with my Toareg all over again. I think this additive is a real deal not to mention that it's made by one of the most reputable German manufacturer. I am hooked! In my book it's $23.00 well spent!

 

A while back I asked if anyone ever tried Ceratec, didn't get any responses so I decided to try it myself and thought I'd share my experience in case any one is interested. After extensive online research I bought two cans of Ceratec from Amazon to be used in my Tiguan and Touareg. Tiguan was the first guinea pig and from what I can tell the results were really really good even though I don't drive this car much. If some of you know the 2.0T is rather noisy little engine, well not after the Ceratec treatment. I can say with certainty that the noise was significantly reduced, it gets better MPG and feels a bit peppier, even my wife noted that. So far I have 2000 miles on this oil/ceratec and everything is going great. The Touareg; With my last oil change I switched from Castrol (dealer filled) to a Penzoil Ultra 5w-40 which right a way made the engine sound better. For some reason I never had a good experience with Castrol in any of my turbo/supercharged vehicles, that oil never made engines "shine" so to speak not to mention mediocre Blackstone reports. I olny used Castrol because it was free (dealer filled) but I would never willingly pay for it nor would I recommend it to anybody. Anyhow, after a few days on a new Penzoil I decided to add Ceratec and all I can say is WOW! what a difference that made. It took about 20-25 miles to take a full effect. The engine is so quite now that sometimes I can't even tell it's on. The morning startups were somewhat noisy (30-45 sec), well, not anymore. The engine is without a doubt feels quieter, stronger and smoother. Under a hard load I can now hear my supercharge's whine clearer, not that it makes more whine but because of a reduced engine noise. I know some of you will say it's a placebo effect but I disagree, one can definitely tell a difference, especially if you're like paying attention to every detail, squeak, etc... I think I just fell in love with my Toareg all over again. I think this additive is a real deal not to mention that it's made by one of the most reputable German manufacturer. I am hooked! In my book it's $23.00 well spent!

Couple of questions if you won't mind...
One can of Ceratec is enough for T3TDI?
Have you ever used it in outboard motors? I am considering adding Ceratec to oil in Yamaha 4-stroke outboard. I do quite a bit of boating/fishing and run at almost full throttle most of the time.
Thanks!

 

I'm intrigued
I know Treguan has an engineering background so this is more than his imagination--

Remeber, this is the guy that got our stereo HD radios re flashed by VW with the YouTube videos of his oscilloscope...

 

I'm intrigued I know Treguan has an engineering background so this is more than his imagination-- Remeber, this is the guy that got our stereo HD radios re flashed by VW with the YouTube videos of his oscilloscope...

I thought that was me. Lol.

 

Thanks for the update T-Reguan. I'm curious why you didn't opt for LiquiMoly oil, too. I'm really happy with the performance since switching from dealer supplied OEM Total 507.00 5W30 to LiquiMoly TopTec 4200 507.00 5W30.

I'm tempted to try their DPF cleaner and diesel purge at our next OCI. Though Ravenol and Pentosin seem extremely high end as well.

 

Thanks for the update T-Reguan. I'm curious why you didn't opt for LiquiMoly oil, too. I'm really happy with the performance since switching from dealer supplied OEM Total 507.00 5W30 to LiquiMoly TopTec 4200 507.00 5W30. I'm tempted to try their DPF cleaner and diesel purge at our next OCI. Though Ravenol and Pentosin seem extremely high end as well.

I like to experiment with different oils. I did use liqui moly in my Tiguan and have gotten great results, however I liked Motul a bit better in that engine. I recently switched to Pennzoil Ultra which seems to be doing excellent so far. Pennzoil ultra 5w -40 is the only oil in US that is approved and used by Ferrari. It also is the only group IV out of the entire Penzoil lineup. I am also on auto ship with Amazon which makes it a win win situation. I run Blackstone analysis after every oil change, can't wait to see how Pennzoil holds up.

Btw: Ceratec is highly regarded in Europe among diesel enthusiasts.

 

Whoops my bad Eugene Dave
That was totally you
Now, if you were to endorse something I'd probably run out and buy it tomorrow.

 

Whoops my bad Eugene Dave That was totally you Now, if you were to endorse something I'd probably run out and buy it tomorrow.

Now I am completely bummed

 

Hey I'm game to trying this still-- as a fellow hybrid owner this means something.
Just need to understand what it will do for the engine, and whether it makes sense to add it to the new castrol they just put into the engine

 

It'll make your Castrol worth being in your engine . See my post #1 for detailed description.

 

I am using Ravenol VMO in my 08 Passat 2.0TSI and it is the only oil that can make the 5K change with less than 1/4 quart burn off, both Mobil 1 0w40 and Castrol 5w40 VW Spec oils burned off a quart plus. These 2.0T engines are notorious for oil consumption.
I will be putting the Ravenol in my new to me 11 Touareg VR6 at the next oil/filter change.

 

I have used Ceratec for a number of years in a range of cars from very high performance engines to my sprinter van and Transit vans. All with good results.

Just oil changed my Touareg V10 and about to add couple of bottles to that tomorrow.

Friend of mine at a tuning shop using a rolling road (established many years) told me about it and sold it to me based on the results he had seen using it and seeing the results from the rolling road power and torque curves.

 

Just for facts, i did nothing to my Mercedes Sprinter 1998 2.9 turbo diesel only tip in Ceretec. Over the next 1000 miles i got 2 mpg to the gallon more and still getting it. Its a work tool so noted the fuel usage very closely. It does not matter who or how its driven, just seems to get 2 mpg more!!

 

Keen to try it but does anyone know of a stockist in australia for the ceratec. Their website doesn't list the product so maybe its not distributed here.

 

Found these guys shipping to Australia. Reasonable postage.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Set-2-Ce...eramic-Wear-Engine-Protection-High-Tech-Liqui-Moly-Cera-Tec-300ml-/291177883507

 

Should i bring a 12 pack in August when i come out?!!?

 

Gentleman, please remember that one can (300ml) is good for 5 liters of oil, therefore buy accordingly.

 

Can you use it on a new engine?


UOTE=T-Reguan;706778]Anyone ever tired this additive? Looks very promising with excellent reviews not to mention that it's made by one of the best oil companies. I've got two bottles sitting in my garage which I will probably use with my next oil change.

Here is info from Liqui Moly:


CERA TEC
Motor oil additive
With high-tech ceramic anti-wear protection

How does CERA TEC work?
The graphite-like structure of the ceramic particles enables them to fill in the roughness present in the metal, thereby preventing direct metal-on-metal contact. An active chemical (friction modifier) utilizes the existing friction energy to ensure flowing i.e. non-abrasive – smoothing, annealing the friction and bearing points.

CERA TEC is a suspension based on a microceramic solid lubricant and chemical active agents in mineral oil. This combination reduces friction and protects the engine and transmission against wear. This in turn prevents expensive repairs and prolongs the life of the assemblies.

CERA TEC offers high mechanical and thermal stability, ensuring outstanding lubrication even under the toughest conditions. Engine and transmission noise are reduced.
It saves energy, reduces fuel consumption and thus also pollutant emissions.

CERA TEC reacts directly with the surface of the metal and protects your engine for up to 50,000 kilometers - even with the oil being changed during that period.

Properties of CERA TEC
CERA TEC is self-mixing and compatible with all standard motor oils. It is ideal for use in oil-lubricated transmissions, pumps and compressors. Also tested for vehicles
with turbochargers, catalytic converters or particle filters. In new vehicles, CERA TEC supports engine break-in and protects against excessive wear. With a particle size of only 0.2 μm, it is absolutely compatible with all fi lters. Do not use in automatic transmissions and motorbikes with a wet clutch!

How is CERA TEC applied?
- direct addition to the motor or transmission oil (cold or warm)
- ideally, pour in together with fresh oil when changing the oil
- otherwise apply when there is at least 5,000 km to go before the next oil change so that CERA TEC has plenty of time in which to have an effect
- 300 ml is suffi cient for up to 5 liters of motor oil
- the optimal dosage is about 6 % of the total oil fill quantity
- oil change intervals as per the service documents of the vehicle to be followed

Test arrangement image with two interlocking gear wheels.

Who is APL?
Formed in 1989, APL is a neutral and independent, internationally renowned development service provider,
working for a worldwide client base from the automobile, oil and additives industries. The company is specialized in the mechanics of engine and drive trains and their operating supplies. On nearly 145 state of the art engine and component test rigs, more than 700 employees apply the latest measurement technology.

What was tested?
The APL experts determined the relative scuffing load capacity of lubrication oils. Between the edges of the teeth, rolling off and sliding occur at the same time. Due to unfavorable operating conditions the lubricant film can break down between the tooth edges. This leads to short-term local fusion and disintegration of the edges, so-called scuffing, which causes damage to the smooth surface of the teeth edges.
Possible consequences: higher engine and transmission noise until failure of the gear wheels occurs.

Test sequence
On the vehicle distortion test bench the test oil was mixed with 6 per cent CERA TEC. With each test sequence the weight, and thereby the force level, on the sensitive transmission gear wheels was increased. The aim of the experiment is to reach the damage force level. This level is reached when the sum of all damage caused to the teeth of the gear wheels is more than 20 millimeters. The test is then ended. The reference oil came up to damage force level 4; the oil mixed with CERA TEC reached as far as level 9, hence to more than double the level. CERA TEC markedly increases the power reserve, which confirms the anti-wear protection by
the fine ceramic particles, is how Dipl.-Ing. Peter Kunz, who supervised the test, summarizes the results. Kunz’s initial skepticism gave way: After the tests I was
amazed. The product has made everything, and I really mean everything, better.

Just the demand for APL’s expertise alone has been unusual. «LIQUI MOLY is the first company in the after-sales market that has been prepared to undergo voluntary tests», said Kunz. He is responsible for the testing of lubricants and fuels.

In short: CERA TEC reduces the amount of friction and thereby the wear. This in turn benefits the engine, which is under less load. This can result in a lower susceptibility to repair and longer service life.[/QUOTE]

 

Can you use it on a new engine? ]

It says you can however I'd wait until at least 3000 miles then change the oil and add Ceratec.

 

Why does reading this remind me of a reading Nigeria bank scam email, only it uses better English?

Just kidding. Sort of. I know nothing about the product.

 

I'm approaching 1st Treg service at 15000km. Interested in Ceratec as it is suitable for diesel. I used a similar sort of product, Nulon, on a Toyota 4Runner 2.2L petrol for 29 years and 400000km with outstanding results. It was one dose every 100,000km but as the car aged past 300,000km I switched to a product which was added every other oil change. Ceratec seems like something you add every oil change? So a downside might be cost on top of very expensive oil. Nulon did give a noticable reduction in noise, a small benefit in fuel economy and seemed to help performance a bit - the engine seemed much free-er running. But my main aim was longevity, protecting the engine internally. Over the years several mechanics commented how freely the engine revved compared to other 4Runners. Also used on several other cars, motor bikes and a large ride-on mower. On the bikes throttle response was significantly improved, increased fun factor. On the mower interesting to note how, when you cut the ignition, it glides to a halt whereas previously it abruptly stopped. However I believe that product is not suitable for diesel engines so very interested in something similar for the Treg. (All T3s are diesel in Aust.) Ceratec seems to be available at several chain outlets. So thanks for this post.

 

Ceratec seems to be available at several chain outlets. So thanks for this post.

Would be interested in giving it a try, where is it available in Oz?

Thanks, Tony

 

Ceratec is good for 50k miles so you should be good for 5 oil changes

 

Correction: 50k kilometers/ 30k miles

 

I googled their web site. It has a store locator. In my area Hawkesbury - NE Sydney - Pep's Auto, Autobahn and Supercheap. Don't know what items or stock level they carry.

 

I rang my local autobarn and they didn't even have it on their computer. So I emailed liqui moly directly mid week with no response from them so far.

 

Look online. Amazon, IDparts.com, AutoHausAZ. You may even find it elsewhere online.

I'd forget the local store. They'll likely get it at MSRP and add a markup for you. Unless they're willing to match online prices, I'd forget the small shops -- especially if they don't have a SKU for LiquiMoly.

 

I would be in for a few cans as well.

 

No problem, I'll check with USPS on Monday. Will post back as soon as I get an answer.

 

I rang USPS but they could not give me a straight answer. They said it will probably be returned by the Australian customs. They told me to visit one of the branches for a clearer answer. Will update as soon as I get a chance to pay them a visit.

 

Local branch said no, sorry guys

 

Thanks very much for the offer and for taking the time to check for us, appreciated!.

TonyB

 

We are moving to OZ mid august, i can buy a pack of 12 and bring with me if its hard to get in OZ????

 

All I can say here is that there is a market for this magic liquid here in OZ.

Andy205wrc...if you can get em down here and can spare a couple for me then I will owe you one!

 

Bringing a box of 12 with me, will post when container arrives and if anyone needs some you can have it for what i pay for it. Got to save a few for myself though

 

I just put this in today at 34,000 miles on my 2012 tdi. I keep track of my fuel usage pretty closely so I'll post any changes.

 

Tried it on my V8 and I have no difference, but I only used one can.