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Hey, do you know where I can find basic resistance of electronic components?
This question does not make sense for a lot of the sensors… and you won’t find it documented anywhere. It depends on how they are designed and operate. For example, some rapidly pulse, others have high internal resistance but actually produce current when measuring, etc. The onboard diagnostic systems can test them all reliably in place, e.g. with VCDS. If you understand what type of sensor it is, you would also know how to test it directly.

FYI there are also terminals in the engine bay for charging your battery in place.
 
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Well friend , I understand that much, or I thought I did, ... But basic resistance readings, .., like for example , the hpfp is a great example .. I am not looking for flow , et etc.. just what I got , was about 4 ohms , between the 2 terminals , for the 2014 HPFP that I removed.,

I am not being nit picky , I think .. just the basics .. not complex readings that are only possible w full system running, like you are referring to ..

Another great example:

"Typically, the resistance of a spark plug should be between 5,000 and 10,000 ohms. However, the exact resistance value may vary depending on the make and model of your vehicle and the specific type of spark plug being used. "

-right! I think hundreds of pages of manuals, should have a ballpark range , say for HPFP and similar devices , without power, and if possible, w powrrs.. the 4 omhs range for optimal performance during testing and assembly of vehicles without power , seems the magic number for HPFP, w disclaimer not necessarily limiting overall functionality, if readings go a bit above or below ..

i am referring to the bare basics, that i am surprised the Deutsche Ingenieurskunst is not considering before we go crazy and install defective parts, to latter find out parts were defective , which happens in real life ..

But actually, maybe I am being a bit unfair on this topic w VW, because I guess the whole car industry is dysfunctional like that .. no one is paying attention to this.. but in Quality Control of publishing, it would make sense, and a great time saver ..

If VW will end up using my idea , and set future standards for manuals issuance, I need a bone 🍗 , plz 🙄😂🤣
 
Wait a second there Maradona.... are you suggesting that getting a resistance reading off a pressure sensor or regulator would somehow validate that your MECHANICALLY DRIVEN HPFP is shot? :unsure:

It's not a bone that you need.... what you need is a clue.
 
I'm not sure what your background is with electronics, but you cannot expect the DC resistance to be stable on all types of sensors- it can vary wildly depending on the type of sensor, and simple things like how what it measures happens to be positioned. Think for example a contact switch- totally open or totally closed depending on the position of what it senses at the time. The actual resistance when it is closed will have much more to do with how oxidized and worn the terminals you are connecting it to are than the switch itself... and won't be similar between different cars that all work perfectly.

Think about a spark plug for example, like you posted. Those resistances are massive, because the spark plug is an open gap, its resistance is effectively infinite, until you apply enough voltage to turn the air in the gap to plasma, at which point the resistance is suddenly low. You cannot test a spark plug with an ohm meter, trying to do that is nonsense, the resting resistance is about the same as the open air between your multimeter terminals when they are connected to nothing! At best you could tell if the plug was shorted out, which isn't how they normally fail.

An ohm meter tests the resting DC resistance of a part, but usually these sensors are subject to some type of constant change, e.g. AC or something similar, and the DC properties then are meaningless. That said, I don't know what sensor you are actually talking about and trying to measure, and how it works or should work.

If you're not doing a full VCDS scan on this before you touch anything else, you are just wasting your time and money, and that of the other people on here that are trying to help you. The engineers that made your car actually engineered a diagnostic process to reliably detect the failure of any electrical part- you are just refusing to do it for some reason.

Also, VW didn't make the sensors on your car. They're all standard off the shelf parts identical on most cars (mostly Bosch) so you can get a full spec sheet / white paper from the manufacturer, with all of the electrical properties listed out, if you know exactly what sensor you are talking about. VW would have used those same documents to design the automatic diagnostic procedures your car already has built in!
 
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Wait a second there Maradona.... are you suggesting that getting a resistance reading off a pressure sensor or regulator would somehow validate that your MECHANICALLY DRIVEN HPFP is shot? :unsure:

It's not a bone that you need.... what you need is a clue.
No.. just basic readings , my friend .. you are trying to run around the bush .. a big enemy of electronics , as you know better than me, is heat .. so I have no idea why there aren't the basic readings readily available, for the components , since those are the same signals that the software uses ... 🙄🤦 I mean ,.. what else can I say? .. make a drawing ? 😂🤣
 
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@casioqv you have great points there , and I was not referring to as the example of the hpfp, flow, et .. just basic readings.. like I said, removed pump readings were about 4omhs..

Yes, they are from dif manufacturers, I get that ,, ,manufacturers don't publish those either ..so we are living in secret ..

In the spark plug deal . Yes, it's an open circuit .. so imo, the manual should say something like , for that component:

-Tested Spark plugs resistance readings at the time of testing , under idle condition were within X and Y range .. the brand and manufacturer specs may vary, and you should contact your supplier for the expected average or ball park range .


Point being , everyone is selling parts , and diagnosing cars , but I don't think we are giving each individual component in the car industry , the credit deserved.

Btw, I am going to do the test , when my stuff arrives .. I am not educated like you folks on these affairs ,
I just designed and installed a structural load monitoring system w sensor cells that measured displacement , and the sheet of the sensors had all the info there ..

These days , I can't find this info anywhere ., it's like , car and parts manufacturing are trying to save on paper ... 🙂
 
You are not getting the point. They won’t tell people to ask the spark plug manufacturer for a resistance spec because that measurement is nonsense and meaningless in that context… telling people to ask for the spec is like asking people to weigh their drinking water on a bathroom scale to test if it’s safe to drink.

You absolutely can can get the spec sheets for almost any sensor… usually free online. They want it to be super easy for engineers to design things around their parts! I’ve never once needed anything that wasn’t freely available to the public to engineer systems with commercial sensors. Usually it’s in a PDF on the website. In the old days you had to call and ask for a free catalogue by mail.
 
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@casioqv , well I gave you a bad illustrative example with spark plugs (still, no sound reason to not have a performance spec ballpark), but I do understand your reply, and i not think is nonsense. I know that the car industry is plagued by over-consumption of fuel, to enrich oil barons. but that is a different topic all together, we don't have to talk about that.. Nikola Tesla famously said, If you want to find the secrets of the Universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration. .

Majority of the people in interact with , don't understand fully what that means, and I am not trying here to convince you or anyone else other wise, or diminish your life experiences, which are very valuable without doubt. What I know is, the car industry does not like efficiency , and that is why many very efficient engines were not developed. I actually sent myself a patent info for a frictionless rotary engine to the big VW boys, and that didn't seem to be of interest ... same with other brands.. the message w that feedback was, the oil industry is too precious for us to mess up with them.. :)

but that is peanuts, back to the topic: You said it right: Normally is on a PDF (or it used to :) ) .. this info used to come on packages too, what we call in the US the Data Sheet .. Now, with the disappearance of radioshack , and the advent of online stores, instead of having more info, we have less, afaiac .. I remember calling a manufacturer once, and they connected me to their tech dept, and gave me all the info I needed right away.. I called one manufacturer 2 days ago about the specs for the camshaft sensors, and emailed, and no reply yet .. and could only leave a message , lol ..

I guess the conclusion is that I am getting old :rolleyes: , and need to live with it, .. oh well, new people, new trends, 😋
 
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He was, and engines work under that paradigm .. FYI, that same frase was responsible for Musks success w electric motor performance ...

This is the top view of patent I proposed to secure , but several car Manufacturers were not interested ..is too efficient, being a frictionless rotary engine ( non wankel) ..https://freeimage.host/i/JMWIB2I


And yes, you are correct, and why is this engine so efficient linked above ? Well, it does not have friction, so it's optimized to slide through the air 🙄, then, just fine tune the timing,🙂 in retrospective, little can be done w current gaz guzzlers , the way we have it, w pistons go up and down, inside a cylinder.

What I know for certain, is that some " laws" taught in engineering school, are incorrect ... For starters, Plank's constant is not a constant , and Einstein's Spooky action at a distance was a big mistake, called Entanglement, that it is proven to work , even between space craft and mother earth surface ..

So yes my friend, we can produce much more efficient and powerful engines , we just have to be open minded , and think about it, in a harmonious way w nature .. the more Resistance, the worse it is.. Nature has everything already figured out .

Guys at CIA were not able to make the insectocopter .. all they had to do, was to look for dragon flies wings Meet the CIA’s Insectothopter
 
Have you been following Aptera. It seems like a car company really truly focused on efficiency, with a practical solar car. Initially it was gas, but they realized it was so efficient it could work as a solar design. I’ll have to admit, I want one.

What is the advantage of your engine over a wankel rotary? Wankels are not very efficient… I think it’s hard to get the compression, pressure, and temps needed for efficiency with a rotary engine. From your diagram, I can’t see how it has any compression.
 
From your diagram, I can’t see how it has any compression.
that’s why it’s frictionless 🤣🤣🤣

I can’t even with this thread. 😵‍💫💥🔫
 
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that’s why it’s frictionless 🤣🤣🤣

I can’t even with this thread. 😵‍💫💥🔫
My friend , I did not design it , and I am fairly humble , you know what you think you know, and I am the same .. 😁

What I know is that conservation of energy baloney , does not hold water anymore .. that, has been done on purpose , to indoctrinate people .. DOE already akn devices w net energy gain , but is only plasma reactor related atm , I think .. but you know , things are changing .. new people, new inventions ... Never underestimate your own ingenuity .. :)

Once I had a team of senior engineers and a PhD , saying "you can't do that ".. I just said , I alone can't , but I will make it happen, if you support me .. they ask me a few times , and I said yes! So we were the most profitable consulting dept in hourly basis ..

If you don't believe in yourself, friend, others will not either. I learned that the hard way , and then got some success , until health take a bad turn ..
 
I can’t take you seriously at all. From the combination of whack conspiracies, key buzzwords, the incessant use of ellipsis, the refusal to try to follow the manual, etc. I’d almost think troll, but they at least have some sort of goal in mind. You do not.
 
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Have you been following Aptera. It seems like a car company really truly focused on efficiency, with a practical solar car. Initially it was gas, but they realized it was so efficient it could work as a solar design. I’ll have to admit, I want one.

What is the advantage of your engine over a wankel rotary? Wankels are not very efficient… I think it’s hard to get the compression, pressure, and temps needed for efficiency with a rotary engine. From your diagram, I can’t see how it has any compression.
I have heard of them, but many cos, and I am not familiar w their products ..

Wankel is like you say, yes, it has several problems, inc gaskets .. afaik,

To better answer your question , here is

General description of the engine:
This is not a reciprocating rotary like the Wankel. This is a Pure Rotary engine. It is called a 3-stroke because the compression cycle of the air-fuel mixture is done external to the motor by a dedicated compressor, which feeds the pressurized mix into a pressure tank, similar to a diesel truck engine design, from whence the pre-compressed air-fuel mix is metered into the combustion chambers. Thus, the engine has inlet, power, and exhaust cycles, only (3 strokes)
This engine has no parts that touch, so it is frictionless and does not need oil to lubricate the engine. The seals on the combustion chambers are pneumatic air-seals which are 100% efficient and do not allow any blow-by, yet they do not touch anything anywhere, unless at the interface between the rotating member of the power plant, and the power shaft
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That makes sense to me, a rotary engine with no compression that uses an external compressor. Two-stroke diesels use a related concept to force the fuel/air mixture into the cylinder with a supercharger. My next question would be why does it actually spin, since there doesn't seem to be any change in displacement as it rotates. Expanding gas needs to push against something, e.g. make a compartment larger to do work.

I don't buy at all that people would ignore an engine design because it's "too efficient." Car manufacturers try really really hard to make things more efficient, and they've improved a lot recently. Porsche even switched to 4 cylinder turbo engines giving up their famous boxer 6 sound and torque for efficiency, even though they knew customers would have mixed feelings about that. It's more likely that it's just too weird. On the surface it looks just so different than a regular engine, nobody is going to want to take the risk of looking into it unless you can prove to them it actually works first. You'd need a working prototype, with real data, delivered by someone with a reputable background. And you'd better not say anything about the laws of physics being some kind of hoax or people will just assume you are crazy without listening to you.

For every weird engine design that actually works better, there are a hundred thousand mentally ill people from perpetual motion machine forums with drawings and animations that have zero understanding of the basics of what they are talking about. Physicists get contacted constantly by these people, and it's all nonsense. I am/was the academic guy that would keep an open mind and actually listen to these things, but unfortunately, it's almost always mental illness or confusion, and not any actual new ideas when I really hear them out.

If you want to get people to take a really weird idea seriously you need to be really really good at the social side of presenting a controversial and weird idea while seeming credible, and put together. Ranting about conspiracies and the laws of physics being a scam? That's an instant ignore from nearly everyone, they won't even hear the idea. Look at all these sociopaths in Silicon Valley with ideas that are actual total bullshit like Elizabeth Homes. They're so good at looking credible that their terrible ideas get massively funded. And there probably is some guy ranting to himself under a bridge about a frictionless engine that is actually a legit good idea, but it will get ignored, not because of the idea, but because of how he looks and talks.
 
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