I have a loud metalic scraping sound coming from mine. Tech said it is the drive shaft center support bearing. Scheduled to have it replaced under warranty on Wed next week.

 

I hear that's a common problem with the 04's. Good luck

 

Drive shaft

well...They just replace the shaft bearrings and said it was just starting to mess up.I am just glad it did not happen like it did on my previous Touareg.It was bad.
Well the vibration has not stopped.I believe there is something loose on the vehicle underneath it and when I opened the window to hear it,It was very load.Enough for others to hear it I think.I am taking it back to the dealer in a couple days.Hopefully they can figure this one out also.I have a problem the the air suspension and it keeps bringing up a workshop on the dash.

 

My drive shaft bearing completely fell out a year and a half ago! I could have been killed driving it to the repair shop (the dealer had to come get it and transport it back to the dealer's service department)....But the dealer replaced it ( no charge since it was still under warranty ), and it's been fine other than the tire pressure light beeping all the time....Now, I also have a bad noise that seems like a wheel bearing is going bad. Lots of strange noises and crazy warning lights in my 'O4 V6....

 

Back from the dealer and had my driveshaft replaced. Smooth as silk, and no more noise. Also had some wings installed on my mirrors to eliminate the whistle, and the A-pillar trim is on order due to a poor fit.

Don't be caught without a warranty on a Treg, that is playing with fire.

Mark

 

My rear driveshaft center bearing is going too, as is my drivers side front wheel bearing. I think both are pretty normal wear parts between 80k and 100k on any 4x4. The problem is, looks like the center bearing is not replaceable with the whole shaft. That is a bummer if true Out of warranty at 80k, and they missed it durring the 80k service that I had done just before the warranty expired

Kinda bumbed, but my Treg has pulled a LOT of trailer action, and lots of off roading, so I expected these kinds of failures, and set aside some $ for it. I don't really like warranties as you spend more time

 

$1000 for the drive shaft, 450 for the bearings, plus 300 labor. $1700 and I still need to get tires for the Rallye in July. Well, other than the 80k service I had done, this is the first real out of pocket expense for our Egg, so I guess we should feel pretty good, but I dont... Going to see if I can find a used driveshaft, and just have them do the bearing.

 

$1000 for the drive shaft, 450 for the bearings, plus 300 labor. $1700 and I still need to get tires for the Rallye in July. Well, other than the 80k service I had done, this is the first real out of pocket expense for our Egg, so I guess we should feel pretty good, but I dont... Going to see if I can find a used driveshaft, and just have them do the bearing.

I bought the Driveshaft Support bearing from deutschepartsusa (+19175393636);deutschepartsusa@gmail.com for $89.99+ Shipping, took it to my VW Dealer & Had him change it.
The VW Dealer said that the Hamburg-Technic Driveshaft Support bearing i brought him was must better Quality than the Original from VW & some other Cheap
The dealer Originally wanted $1000's for a new Driveshaft & bearing.
The Key is that the Driveshaft does not go had, its the bearing & Cage that does.
I saved a few Thousand $$ in the process & now my Touareg is BRAND NEW!
Now i just change the Full Front end for $800.00 incl. all Control Arms, Upper & Lower, Sway Bar Links, Tie Rod Assemblys.
My local Garage charegd me $500.00 to install all!

Great Job ! Saved $3000 from the dealer !

 

Drive Shaft failure

Has anyone heard of the three bolts that attach the drive shaft to the output flange shearing off simultaneously? Four days after the dealer replaced the entire drive shaft bearing assembly on my '04 V8 Touareg and just 71 miles later, the front half of the drive shaft dropped loose, hit the pavement at 65 mph, valuting the car upwards and to the left a lane and a half before I could regain control. Simultaneously, the side and left front seat air bags deployed hitting my left shoulder. The dealer maintains the fault was defective attachment bolts which a tech bulletin allegedly covers. Has this happened to anyone else?
Any comments or knowledge will be greatly appreciated.

 

Has anyone heard of the three bolts that attach the drive shaft to the output flange shearing off simultaneously? Four days after the dealer replaced the entire drive shaft bearing assembly on my '04 V8 Touareg and just 71 miles later, the front half of the drive shaft dropped loose, hit the pavement at 65 mph, valuting the car upwards and to the left a lane and a half before I could regain control. Simultaneously, the side and left front seat air bags deployed hitting my left shoulder. The dealer maintains the fault was defective attachment bolts which a tech bulletin allegedly covers. Has this happened to anyone else?
Any comments or knowledge will be greatly appreciated.

Yes, I realize this is a 2+ year old thread But CRICKEY! I never saw this post before either. Odd how other posters in this thread ignored it

 

Tranny

Well ... Everything is finished and I have had it since yesterday and it runs perfect.Actually It runs even smoother when it changes gears.This was worth the wait.I am glad I am back in the Touareg.
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Devoman, what year vehicle was this happening on and how much mileage is there on it? Just wondering if it's something that happens after 50k that I should be on the look out for...

 

Tranny

I have a 2005 V8.Fully loaded without the winter package.Build date was 10/11/05 so it was one of the last ones.I got it when it pretty much got here but I If I remember correctly it was about 1 month into sitting on the dealership lot.
I have been driving it with no problems until now.I tow a 2005 25'SS Airstream and have put about half of the miles on it by towing alone.
I now have 44,000 miles on it.
Considering the problems I had with my first Touareg,This is nothing and I am happy with the results.
Everything happened at once so that is a good thing to me.I have now had the drive shaft bearing replaced along with the tranny,Sensor for the esp,and the breather filter for the gas line.It was dirty so they said they would replace it free of charge with warranty.I also got an alignment,about to get my wheels balance and an oil change.I would say thats a pretty good hookup for never paying a dime.Oh and a wash and detail is included.

 

Do anyone have the part number of the Drive shaft kit?

 

I think DnN is [are?] right about the post sounding like a commercial.
I also think that the earlier post about the dangerous driveshaft failure by amtren is also odd. T-R makes a good point about how strange it is that no one commented on the post, but it is also strange that amtren never contributed anything further on the near disaster experience. Of course, he may have just sold the machine immediately and never looked back. But, still, one would think there would have been some venting!

 

Hi there, I am new to this forum and wow what a great resource to have readily available...

I took my 05 Touareg in as it was making a high pitched noice and they said that it needs a new drive shaft as the bearing is worn out so he greased it back up and said that it will happen again and that there was no way to fix it without replacing the entire drive shaft.

I like to investigate things first so I didn't have them replace it as my mechanic told me that it is a simple piece that needs replaced but that you can't buy just the piece.

I was told by my mechanic that it is called a carrier bearing. From the picture he showed me it looks identical to a piece I found readily available without having tobuy the new shaft called a support bearing.

Does anyone know if these tow parts are the same thing or not? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Greg

 

I am having a problem with the front drive shaft center bearings, they are telling me that the front cannot be replaced alone and that they will have to replace the fron and the rear. Is this true or am I being taken for a ride?

 

Driveshaft center bearing support

I took my Treg to a local AAMCO to diagnose a problem in the drivetrain. They told me the center bearing support was bad and it would cost me $2,136.15 to repair due to the fact that they had to replace the entire driveshaft. I looked online and found this part priced anywhere between $70 - $90. I called my usual mechanic and he told me he has done it before and will do it for me for $350.00. I've never dealt with AAMCO before and am wondering if they are known for rip-offs.

 

I took my Treg to a local AAMCO to diagnose a problem in the drivetrain. They told me the center bearing support was bad and it would cost me $2,136.15 to repair due to the fact that they had to replace the entire driveshaft. I looked online and found this part priced anywhere between $70 - $90. I called my usual mechanic and he told me he has done it before and will do it for me for $350.00. I've never dealt with AAMCO before and am wondering if they are known for rip-offs.

What part is $90? If you do enough reading you'll see that AAMCO is doing what VW recommends: replace the entire driveshaft. That goes for about $1k for a geniune VW part, between $400 and $500 if you get a remanufactured one. They are on par w/ what VW dealers would charge.

Your mechanic will have to recondition your driveshaft, including rebalancing it. Unless they're really good at driveshafts you could be playing w/ your luck here.

 

Driveshaft center bearing support

I was quoted $80.99 + $10.00 shipping for the "driveshaft center bearing support", the guy who will do the work I have used before and I trust him if anything goes wrong. Still, to save over $1,500 is worth investigating. Especially knowing the mechanic and having done previous business with him makes it worth it. Besides VW charges way too much for simple things.

 

Do a search for center prop shaft on the forum. It's the price of things, if you know someone who can replace just the bearing that's awesome. When that's not an option, mainly at a shop that is not specialized enough to rebalance a drive shaft, that's the price you pay.

 

Having gone through the whole exercise of having to replace the centre bearing, the following is my perspective.

The simple, but extremely expensive solution is to buy the new propshaft from VW/Porsche.

There is no 'magic' about the VW propshaft.



It is a fine piece of equipment, ensuring a smooth drive (using CVs in stead of U-joints), but it has a fatal flaw (which VW won't admit to).

1. A propshaft is a propshaft. There is nothing special about the Touareg's propshaft application. It connects the back of the transfer case to the front of the rear differential. Since both transfer case and differential are mounted on rubber mountings and the rear suspension is independant, it is in fact a very simple configuration (compared to eg a propshaft for a live rear axle).
2. VWs choice to have the propshaft designed as a "non-serviceable" item is regretted and stupid. If they just introduced a joint in the propshaft at the position of the centre carrier bearing, and sold the centre bearing as a separate item, it would have saved many owners a lot of money.
3. Many vehicles use similar configurations, but the propshaft can be dissembled for repairs.
4. There is nothing special about the centre carrier bearing, except that it is a bad design, prone to failure. Most propshafts have centre carrier bearings, but usually of better quality than the VW one !
5. The centre carrier bearing can be replaced by the few replacement parts available (eg Rock Auto, Febest, Akkusan of Turkey).
6. The dodgy bit is the fact that the centre CV joint needs to be split by mechanically forcing a metal flange open, and re-sealed by having to beat the join closed again!
7. Once reconditioned, the propshaft can be balanced by a competent workshop, like any similar prop shaft.
8. The cheapest solution is to remove the bearing component from the centre carrier assembly. There is a BMW replacement part available which can be fitted to the VW cage. I have not been able to find the part no, but it is a rubber-mounted bearing with a (total) outer diameter of 90mm and a ID (shaft) diameter of 30mm. This solution can't cost more than a few hundred dollar.
9. Another solution is to build a centre carrier bearing up from another vehicle's / generic part.
   The critical items are:
   
   * The shaft diameter is 30mm.
   * The height of the centre of the shaft above the small VW cross-member is 72 mm.
   * The overall diameter of the assembly should be such that it fits in the 'tunnel' in the body.

PS My solution was as follows:

• I opted to have a new bearing built up, because I could not find a local supplier for the 3rd party part.
• In the process of splitting and re-assembling the shaft, the centre CV got damaged (workshop claims innocence).
• I had the centre CV replaced with a U-joint.
• By a stroke of luck I then found an Akkusan bearing and had that fitted.
• At least I now have a prop shaft which any workshop can service/repair.

 

Having gone through the whole exercise of having to replace the centre bearing, the following is my perspective.

The simple, but extremely expensive solution is to buy the new propshaft from VW/Porsche.

There is no 'magic' about the VW propshaft.



It is a fine piece of equipment, ensuring a smooth drive (using CVs in stead of U-joints), but it has a fatal flaw (which VW won't admit to).

1. A propshaft is a propshaft. There is nothing special about the Touareg's propshaft application. It connects the back of the transfer case to the front of the rear differential. Since both transfer case and differential are mounted on rubber mountings and the rear suspension is independant, it is in fact a very simple configuration (compared to eg a propshaft for a live rear axle).
2. VWs choice to have the propshaft designed as a "non-serviceable" item is regretted and stupid. If they just introduced a joint in the propshaft at the position of the centre carrier bearing, and sold the centre bearing as a separate item, it would have saved many owners a lot of money.
3. Many vehicles use similar configurations, but the propshaft can be dissembled for repairs.
4. There is nothing special about the centre carrier bearing, except that it is a bad design, prone to failure. Most propshafts have centre carrier bearings, but usually of better quality than the VW one !
5. The centre carrier bearing can be replaced by the few replacement parts available (eg Rock Auto, Febest, Akkusan of Turkey).
6. The dodgy bit is the fact that the centre CV joint needs to be split by mechanically forcing a metal flange open, and re-sealed by having to beat the join closed again!
7. Once reconditioned, the propshaft can be balanced by a competent workshop, like any similar prop shaft.
8. The cheapest solution is to remove the bearing component from the centre carrier assembly. There is a BMW replacement part available which can be fitted to the VW cage. I have not been able to find the part no, but it is a rubber-mounted bearing with a (total) outer diameter of 90mm and a ID (shaft) diameter of 30mm. This solution can't cost more than a few hundred dollar.
9. Another solution is to build a centre carrier bearing up from another vehicle's / generic part.
   The critical items are:
   
   * The shaft diameter is 30mm.
   * The height of the centre of the shaft above the small VW cross-member is 72 mm.
   * The overall diameter of the assembly should be such that it fits in the 'tunnel' in the body.

PS My solution was as follows:

• I opted to have a new bearing built up, because I could not find a local supplier for the 3rd party part.
• In the process of splitting and re-assembling the shaft, the centre CV got damaged (workshop claims innocence).
• I had the centre CV replaced with a U-joint.
• By a stroke of luck I then found an Akkusan bearing and had that fitted.
• At least I now have a prop shaft which any workshop can service/repair.

Appreciate that a few years have passed since you did this, but I would be interested to know:

How has it been since the repair? (How well did it last)
Do you have any more information, or pictures of the your U-joint replacement?

 

Will T3's suffer the same fate? Won't this be covered by the 10 year / 100K mile powertrain warranty?

 

Time & milage will tell. 5 to 6 years & 50 to 60k miles seems to be the average for the T-1 failures.
The issue has a lot of folks a bit testy!
I am not sure about the coverage under the warranty, a question to the dealer should answer the question.
Enjoy your NEW car, I'm jealous! Good luck. PEACE

 

I drive a '04 V10 which had approximately 140km when I had the same problem driveshaft problem 6 months ago... Cost me a total of $1270 when I had it fixed in the Netherlands, I had the VAT deducted (I drive on Swiss plates).

 

I just had this problem. I want to be clear on a few things because opinions seem to be varying. The bearing CAN be replaced by a good shop, is that right? Otherwise the option is the entire shaft being replaced?

 

I just had this problem. I want to be clear on a few things because opinions seem to be varying. The bearing CAN be replaced by a good shop, is that right? Otherwise the option is the entire shaft being replaced?

Yes and yes.

Or you can buy a reconditioned shaft.

 

You can replace the bearing or there is another part you can put in there that is supposed to be easy to put in and last. Drive Shaft Clamping Center Support (DSCCS) by EPS & VertexAuto.com.
When mine decides to go again I think that is the route Im going to go.

 

Will T3's suffer the same fate? Won't this be covered by the 10 year / 100K mile powertrain warranty?

I will ask again. Is this covered by the 10 year / 100K mile powertrain warranty?

Thanks.