Where in the world are you? When was it fixed? Are we talking 3L TDI?

 

I am in Wichita Kansas presently. When was what fixed? Yes, I am talking about a 3.0L TDI.

 

Way, way too many miles for a 4 year old car.

 

Owner says all highway miles and well maintained as per owner's manual. Highway miles are the best, no? That gives me a mileage proven, very affordable newer TDI than I could otherwise afford.

 

You need to do some reading. Start here.

3.0 Models – VW Court Settlement Official Information Site

Learn more about the program to modify or buyback certain Volkswagen or Audi diesel automobiles in the US

www.vwcourtsettlement.com

https://www.vwcourtsettlement.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/VW_BOOKLET_3L_Gen_2-2_FINAL_ONLINE.pdf

Short story... a "fix" was applied to bring it into emission conformance. As a result, from that date\milage, you have an extended warranty on lots of things (see above links).

Given the fact that it is very young, it would indicate that lots of highway driving was done, which is typically "easy" on a vehicle. Make sure you get your transmission\diffs\trasfercase "lifetime" fluids replaced ASAP since they are more than likely original. Other than that, you potentially have yourself a good buy (assuming everything works as it should on it)

 

Thx for some positive feedback I hoped to see, bargain-buying a hopefully long-lasting TDI with no devastating gremlins identified in its 170K miles. Hopefully it was getting broken-in.

 

Sorry if I'm rolling like a newbie, thx for cueing me on etiquette.

 

Volkswagen Emissions Modification Programs

Vehicle (VIN) Included in Settlement:	YES
Modification Approved by EPA and CARB:	YES
Modification Completed for this Vehicle (VIN):	YES
Vehicle has Extended Emissions Warranty:	YES

VIN=WVGEP9BP6FD002851

 

So you have

4 years or 48,000 miles, whichever occurs first, from the date and mileage of the emissions modification

Meaning you need the details of when it was "fixed".

 

Yep, unfortunately, I just confirmed with VW that though the corrections were performed Nov13, 2017, the warranty period has already been exceeded due to additional miles driven since the repair. Well, hopefully, I will be able to put another 100,000 miles on it & they will have begun selling TDs in America again in time for me to replace it with a fresher...

 

IMHO, unless you are very mechanically inclined and have an above average level of knowledge about these CR TDI's, you're better off avoiding this purchase. Do you have all maintenance record for what has been replaced over its lifetime? The typical wear and tear items aren't that important, but once you get into Turbo\HPFP\DPF and related, you're talking about very high cost items which will not be cost effective to get replaced by a dealer, etc. How good of a deal are you getting on this that you're overlooking this potential "timebomb" issue? A HPFP could take out the whole fuel system and the repair would run you $8k+ if it does. Are you comfortable with that kind of risk?

 

Certainly I hope to avoid drastic costs! It seems for my luck, i am getting a newer TDI for just a couple hundred over trade-in value. Its below KellyBB & hopefully has only an abundance of highway mileage with good care/maintenance on it as a company car. It seems almost like a fairytale used car catch, a gem for bargain shopper with AWD-TDI tastebuds. I know it’s risky, but hope for the best. Pray for me

 

I'm not religious, so hopefully others will hook you up with a few prayers

 

No one on a budget should ever buy a Touareg.

No one can tell you if your well used car will be a good buy, or a bad buy.

As the miles increase parts inevitably wear out and you will be the one picking up the bills for forthcoming repairs.

Have you checked brake replacement costs? Tires? Servicing?

Reading between the lines you may not be that comfortable looking at the three noughts on the end of possible Touareg repair bills.

 

Can you get records from day 1? I rather buy a 4 year old car with 180K miles that is run on highway than a 60K mile NYC driven car.

 

Have you checked out the threads on HPFP (High Pressure Fuel Pump) failure?

Cost? Around $16,000.

As long as you know what you could be letting yourself in for, crack on

 

Isn't there the timing chain tensioner to check too ?

 

Without a full service history, the new owner is blind to the age of these high-cost and known to fail components on his new vehicle. Hopefully he's really lucky and most of the failures already took place and he's got fresh parts on his high milage chassis. Otherwise, DPF\EGR\Turbo\HPFP might sneak up on him in the near future.

 

It's clear you are a gambler. But gamblers with a winning record are 1. perhaps lucky or 2. not emotionally involved, know the odds, keep a cool head and know when to fold them.

It's seems you are emotionally involved in this car and are heavily weighting the positives (a late model semi-luxury car) and under-weighting the negatives (a complex and incredibly expensive to repair potential time bomb that has likely already lived its reliably productive life, which is why the current owner is dumping it and breathing a sigh of relief).

There are two reasons to buy a Touareg at this stage of its life. 1. It is so cheap that if (when) something major goes wrong you could dump it without regret. 2. You know the car's history well and you can do most of the potential repairs yourself.

It appears that neither of these apply in your case.

Why fall in love with this car, when there are thousands of much less risky alternatives?

My '13 Lux has had zero out-of-pocket defects in 77k miles and has towed a 5,500 lb trailer about 35k of those miles. Normally, I'd count myself lucky and sell it at this point. But, the extended emissions fix warranty provides a big safety cushion. You don't have that.

P.S. "Investment in Touareg love?" This car (like most cars) is not an investment. Investments are intended to appreciate. This is a depreciating asset (and I use the term asset loosely) that is likely looking for a financial cliff to fall off of.

 

Most wear occurs on startup so the high mileage means that when the car was started it must have been run for a while.
Probably not a cab?
Anyway I bought a 2012 with 94K miles but with service records from the largest VW dealer in Georgia for all service for it's life.
Currently we are on a Great Southwest tour towing our 16' Scamp with about 5 k miles so far on this trip.
At about 104K miles total.
Hoping that this TDI gives as good service as our old 2009 JSW TDI at 280+ K miles when sold back to VW.

 

yeah I bought one with 180 k km on it ( ~ 111k miles ) and got a extended warranty on it plus the one from vw. so for the next 60k, im mind free

 

While I could be wrong, I don't frequent this forum like others, I see alot of carfax's with high mile Touareg with few major repairs. I see alot of Touaregs are serviced at dealers and the history would show up. The 012 and 014 I have owned have been pretty solid worry free cars so far to 70k or so. Are HPFP's that common even likely to go bad?

 

Are HPFP's that common even likely to go bad?

There aren't many of us driving around in 170k+ specimens with unknown service history to answer that.

 

I am excluding anything before T3

 

The problem is you don't know whether the previous owner ever misfuelled, used crap diesel or always ran the tank low . . .

 

While no one ever knows this about a used car--something with high miles generally means someone was doing the right things (presumably that's why the car is still in good shape)

...Diesel engines last a LONG time. My old 1998 Jetta TDI (which my son uses daily), has been on the road for nearly 22 years, and has around 275,000 miles and still runs great! (even though I did MINIMAL maintenance on it).

Engines do, sure, but it's the ancillaries that cause issues-- the more electrics the worse!
Meanwhile, that '98--we bought one new and ran it 'till 310k when one of the valve springs

 

I just bought a 2011 (170,000 miles) with a pretty good service history and I didn't see anything out of the ordinary on it for repairs. Everything was done at their local VW dealer- but just regular maintenance/wear and tear items.

 

I bought two (2) Volvo trucks with 500,000+ miles and sold or traded in at 1,000,000+ miles. Was I crazy? Diesel engines last a LONG time. My old 1998 Jetta TDI (which my son uses daily), has been on the road for nearly 22 years, and has around 275,000 miles and still runs great! (even though I did MINIMAL maintenance on it).

 

Well, I bought it, private sale w/a full tank of gas for less than older 2010's w/same mileage, Mon morning in St. Louis MO. It is really nice! I am not disappointed at all. I quickly drove it back home, returning to Wichita. It drove nicely, it glides well & loves to be driven. I collected extensive service records and am really, really enjoying my new ride! I pray it serves me well & lasts until VW brings new TDI back to America. Fingers crossed... Any owners w/similar mileage please share your successes...

 

Dont worry about all the negative views this could happen that could happen that's life enjoy the fact you're driving a newer car at great value, smile these cars go on forever as long as the oils been changed and it's been serviced...have fun

 

Hi cejohn18, Congrats on the purchase. We have a 2014 TDI with 160k on the clock. Its been excellent. I'd love to know what you paid for yours just to gauge what ours is worth with the high mileage. Please post it or PM me if you don't mind sharing. Our Toureg has only had tires, brakes and fluids so far. The only other issue is an unresolved info-tainment issue that I've yet to resolve.

I think the naysayer posts are kind of funny. Yes, it absolutely has the potential for expensive repairs up to and certainly including catastrophic engine failures. But somebody has to own the cars out of warranty. Its not like its ready for the scrap yard. Its just a matter of buying it for cheap enough that you can live with the risks of an older, European luxury vehicle without a warranty. Many people won't take that risk at any cost AND can afford to buy a newer model with a warranty. Or they choose to drive a Honda.

Anyway, good luck with it. Ours is still under the emissions warranty for about 10k more miles I think. I suspect that we'll keep it for the long haul after that because the value will be low enough that we might as well try our luck as sell it. If it has a catastrophic failure then we can buy another car. I tend to roll the dice on (possible) expensive repairs vs. (certain) rapid depreciation.

But what everyone can agree on is that for the time being you've got yourself a sweet new ride and one of the most capable vehicles out there. Enjoy!