What trim level is the TREG, s ,se,sel. It makes a big difference in the price/value I mean like $5000 top to bottom.

 

...Sport, Lux, Exec....its weird looking at a car that is essentially brand new but several model years old, kind of dated NAV, no carplay, slower less capable entertainment. (compared to our Golf's anyway)

Thanks for looking

 

If it's a TDI Lux, they'll get their ask. If it's a TDI Exec, it's a good deal. If it's a TDI Sport, they're on the high side. The low miles and CPO make it compelling. Original in-service date could make it even more compelling, because of any possible remaining Factory warranty. It could conceivably have a longer warranty then a new Treg did. If you look at '16 and '17 gassers, you'll find much lower prices, probably more in line with what you're thinking.
They have a lower TCO and higher reliability than an X5 or ML320, which is what they were aimed at competing with. And yes, the shaking is almost certainly the rotors. IIRC warranty is 15K miles on the brakes, so you might make it a condition of sale for them to fix them. They should be able to swing it under warranty so they aren't out of pocket.
Yes, the Touareg will tow your boat just fine. You could tow it across the country and back with no difficulties.

Good morning from the Northeast....been looking at late model TDI Touregs and pretty surprised at the sticker prices.

VW Family, grew up with Diesel rabbits, current fleet includes an 08 GTI, 16 GTI, and a new 19 R...Our 15 year old Volvo xc90 is showing its age (been a very good car for us) ....Was originally planning on looking at an off lease Atlas or something to replace the Volvo but I have a 5000 pound 20 foot bowrider that I currently leave in the water for the season due to lack of a tow vehicle. (I have on occasion used to Volvo...its barely legal and not a competent platform for anything more than the twice yearly 5 mile trip to the lake. and I would put the Atlas in the same category.

On paper and reading the interwebs the Toureg TDI's sure seem like a nice option. We don't need the 3rd row anymore and it seems like it wouldn't be working too hard for weekend hauling of our boat.

Drove a 16 CPO that is close by with 15000 miles on it. Very nice ride, did have a little steering shake slowing from highway speeds with light braking (rotors?) But they won't budge on the price. ($34,000) Are these really holding they're value that well, is it a covid thing? I'm in the lucky position of not needing a car so walking away is easy.

Thanks for reading,

 

Thanks for the detailed response....its embarrassing to know so much about one VW (my GTI's) and little about the others. The trim packages are maddening...or at least how they are advertised. I don't think its really an executive package..no badging to that effect anyway, no heated rear seats...did have the heated steering wheel so maybe I missed the rear seats. nothing to note stereo or speakers badge wise, no sunroof. According to the carfax it has 29 months and 26000 miles left on the original warranty. Looks like it sat on its original lot in the middle of dieselgate and was put in service as a lease in 2018.

really it comes down to if I want it. If our Volvo was dead it would be a no brainer, if my wife didn't like her GTI so much it would be a no brainer...if I hadn't wasted money on a Golf R it would be a no brainer. (Love the R...but its not worth the premium) We can afford it but should we...This will be our first year going to Vermont to a ski house and I like the idea of something newer than the Volvo when its 10 degrees and snowing...and like the idea of not having to borrow my friends truck to pull the boat when I need to....first world problems.

Again thanks for your insight it does help.

 

In classic salesman move....he called today and left a message saying his manager was going to raise the price 3 thousand dollars in three days. While I don't doubt they will....... I smile a bit and know that they play this game for a living and I play every 10 years or so.

 

That's total BS. No one in their right mind would pay that much for a Sport. He's either an idiot and doesn't know he has a Sport instead of an Exec, or he thinks you're an idiot. Or both. $38K would be a good deal for an Exec in good to very good with the warranty you describe. But they'd be asking $40k-$45K if they knew it was an Exec.

 

It's a Sport w/ Options. There is no badging Per Se on the Touaregs, but there are some easy indicators. Dynaudio- included on all 2011+ Execs and labeled on the tweeters- is an easy tell for an Exec. As you suggested, heated rear seats is another easy tell. Other signs would be rear window shades, 360 surround view on the backup camera, stainless pedal covers, and 20" wheels.
'16 Exec and Lux Tregs will also have 14-way, ventilated leather seats- Sport was available with only 8-way Vinyl seats, so that's a good way to differentiate Sport from Lux. Sports were also not available with Pano roofs. It's tough to rely on VIN decoders for the trim level because they tend to label all Touaregs as Sport. The original Monroney sticker is the only other sure-fire way I know of as a definitive tell.

Unless it's a fully optioned Sport, they're asking on the high side IMO. Not having leather or the pano should hurt the price. If it doesn't have the Driver Assistance Package, they're asking about $3-5K high IMO. Maybe if you told them it's a Sport, and not an Exec, pointing out the differences, they'll come down. They may still get what they're asking, but they may sit on it for a year.
The Touareg is a snow monster. The leather and pano roof are serious wow factors. Although the VW-Tex is very good, the leather seats are very comfy. If you need the wife to sign off and she's on the fence, wait for a Lux or Exec. It is a very good warranty though- that's it's most compelling feature.

 

RocketTech is right on the money with his comments.

I paid $32 for mine (not CPO) at a ford dealership with a 3 yr bumper to bumper Ford warranty. 45K miles. 16 TDI Lux w/ cooled seats and heated steering wheel.

Yours has low miles but get under carriage pics to look for rust... If it had salt and sat for yrs it may be pretty bad.

 

Hi all,

Thank you @jontmiller for creating this thread. I think we are interested in the same Touareg, it's located in CT right? I also reached out to the car salesman who would not budge on the price at $34k and recently noticed they raised the price to $37k, completely ridiculous...

@RocketTech I'm also interested in purchasing a 2016-17 Reg TDI with low miles. You seem to know your stuff with them so I was hoping you could chime in on another TDI Reg I found that is up for sale. It's a CPO 2016 TDI sport w/tech with 1 owner, 36k miles. All looks great until I get into the carfax.

1) The muffler was replaced with the first owner at 25k miles. Red flag to me, but any idea if this was a common issue?
2) After the first owner, car sitting on the lot and the dealer replaced/repaired the turbo. Seems very premature to me, my research has turned up very little for early onset turbo issues. Do you have anything to add here?

Thanks

 

If you find a '17 TDI, check it carefully, because they didn't bring any over- just the VR6 that year.
Muffler is not a common issue afaik. More likely they backed over something. If that's the only thing on the report, I wouldn't worry about it, but you might be able to use it to dicker, depending where they have it priced.
Yeah, turbo failure would concern me. Most likely reason is using the wrong oil or over-fueling By the time the CNRB Diesels rolled out (~'13), they had the engine pretty well sorted out. 7P Touaregs do have an issue with water collecting in a low spot in the intake pipe, near the front bumper. That needs to be flushed out at least once a year to keep the dust and whatever from causing the one-way drain valves to stick. That's about the only thing I could think of which could happen from sitting (assuming they drove it or at least revved it occasionally).
That being said, a '16 TDI CPO with low miles is going to forgive quite a bit. VW issues the CPO assuming they'll only see the vehicle for regular maintenance, not to hand out new engines or turbos regularly. CPO is bumper-bumper, so supposedly they went through the vehicle and fixed anything wrong while checking everything else.
Beyond that, borrow it for a day and take it to a good VW TDI mechanic for a PPI.
I think they'll be able to sell that vehicle for $30K-$32K, possibly more if they're willing to sit on it. The Sport w/Tech had alot of what the Lux and Exec had, it's basically missing the better seats, memory power folding dimming mirrors, and pano roof. Possibly more depending on options. Double-check any must-have features, such as trailer hitch, Driver Assistance, etc as I'm not exactly sure what all comes in the Tech package.

Hi all,

Thank you @jontmiller for creating this thread. I think we are interested in the same Touareg, it's located in CT right? I also reached out to the car salesman who would not budge on the price at $34k and recently noticed they raised the price to $37k, completely ridiculous...

@RocketTech I'm also interested in purchasing a 2016-17 Reg TDI with low miles. You seem to know your stuff with them so I was hoping you could chime in on another TDI Reg I found that is up for sale. It's a CPO 2016 TDI sport w/tech with 1 owner, 36k miles. All looks great until I get into the carfax.

1) The muffler was replaced with the first owner at 25k miles. Red flag to me, but any idea if this was a common issue?
2) After the first owner, car sitting on the lot and the dealer replaced/repaired the turbo. Seems very premature to me, my research has turned up very little for early onset turbo issues. Do you have anything to add here?

Thanks

 

The issue with the turbo is one I haven't heard of before. You might want to check for underbody corrosion, just to be safe. Could be from driving in saltwater or treated roads and not rinsing down afterwards/end of the season. There are panels underneath which prevent alot of splashing, but I guess you could get lucky.
For the intake, I dump a gallon of hot water mixed with bleach down the intake horn, then another to be sure. Once a year seems to work. Definitely check it before the rainy season. Easiest way to check it is to remove the filter and dup a gallon of water in the air filter box. If it doesn't drain completely in less than 30 seconds, force a towel down the tube to sponge out the water, then do the hot bleachy water trick. Easy peasy lemon squeezy.
I doubt they'd let $1K hold them up. It seems to be a fair price. Worse come to worse, walk away and wait until the end of the month when they don't hit their numbers or need an easy sale to make a couple bucks.

 

@RocketTech Checked in on the TDI @jontmiller posted and the salesman said it sold yesterday for $37k. Unbelievable and it was only a Sport model!

 

I guess it hit all of someone's buttons <shrug>. Maybe prices are going up? I still think that's on the high side for a Sport. You can get a Lux for that, or even an Exec with more miles.
Thanks for the update!

 

Wow I can't believe what they are going for. I had a saved search on cargurus for any newer TDI treg and one popped up last month. I got a great deal on a 2016 lux with 104k on it and since my X5 diesel has been in the shop for too long I just wanted to use my boat I grabbed it up.

 

Its crazy they sold it that much....there is another up in MA with only a few hundred miles for 41k ... I got pissed off when he called and 'gave me the option to buy it for 34 before raising the price' basically told them to F off. Guess like I said...they do this for a living we do it once every 5 or 10 years.

 

I actually drove that one today. I offered them $34 and they told me to piss off.
The only other TDI with low miles and priced fairly is located in Pittsburgh, but the early mileage muffler replacement and turbo replacement have me concerned. I did some more digging and it appears the car was located in Florida during Hurricane Irma and had those repairs were done not long thereafter.. @RocketTech

 

did have a little steering shake slowing from highway speeds with light braking (rotors?)

A common issue with Touaregs is the wheels not being put on properly. Which I know sounds stupid but they have 3-piece hubs unlike any vehicle I’ve had before and if it’s not aligned properly when you mount the wheels it can not sit flush and cause steering wheel shake at high speeds. There is a TSB out there about how to position the hub assembly to ensure it sits flush and prevent shakes.

In short, if the rotor screw is pointing to the 6-o’clock position one of the lobes for the 3-piece hub will be positioned at 12-o’clock (you can see them easily with the wheel off, which helps this make sense) and in the best position to hold the weight of the wheel while you tighten the lug bolts normally (star pattern)

it may also be a rotor issue, but then you should only feel it when using the brakes and at most speeds. If you feel it all the time at certain speed, it is probably the above which is what I had when I bought my 2016 new/fixed.

 

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Good morning from the Northeast....been looking at late model TDI Touregs and pretty surprised at the sticker prices.

VW Family, grew up with Diesel rabbits, current fleet includes an 08 GTI, 16 GTI, and a new 19 R...Our 15 year old Volvo xc90 is showing its age (been a very good car for us) ....Was originally planning on looking at an off lease Atlas or something to replace the Volvo but I have a 5000 pound 20 foot bowrider that I currently leave in the water for the season due to lack of a tow vehicle. (I have on occasion used to Volvo...its barely legal and not a competent platform for anything more than the twice yearly 5 mile trip to the lake. and I would put the Atlas in the same category.

On paper and reading the interwebs the Toureg TDI's sure seem like a nice option. We don't need the 3rd row anymore and it seems like it wouldn't be working too hard for weekend hauling of our boat.

Drove a 16 CPO that is close by with 15000 miles on it. Very nice ride, did have a little steering shake slowing from highway speeds with light braking (rotors?) But they won't budge on the price. ($34,000) Are these really holding they're value that well, is it a covid thing? I'm in the lucky position of not needing a car so walking away is easy.

Thanks for reading,

Wow $34k for a 16 is cheap. Can't find any 15s or 16s for less than a $40k absolute lowest with most of them being $50k+

 

Um, I got mine for 20,500... 😎
From a VW dealer.

 

Yeah, but you're dyslexic, so you probably paid 52,000 for it 😁

 

Jeepers 😳

 

The 2020 v8 TDI is welcome in my garage at any time..... I would seriously do unspeakable things for that (like even give alfissimo credit for a post\comment, etc)

 

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Dang it... fixed. Thanks for the scrutiny.

 

I beat everybody, I traded my 2012 LUX TDI for a "new" never registered 2016 LUX for $1500 plus my 2012,how BOUT THAT DEAL!! car has 10k MILES ,SO I;M GOOD FOR A LONG TIME. best suv I've ever owned. Pulls trailers like they don't exist. Good luck on your hunt

 

Are we talking buy-back or run-of-the-mill trade money here?

 

Clearly buyback

 

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Those Dbags in MA never even responded to an email....I've given up until my Volvo dies but I will keep an eye on market.....Diesel Cayenne's seem not to carry the same premium

 

And for fun and to get my wife behind the wheel of one there is a 2011 in NY untitled, sport ... been on the lot for 8 years, and looks every bit of it, lots of lot rash, cracked marker lens, battery was dead flat spots on tires etc. listed at 29,900...granted warranty card not punched yet. Told me they would do tires battery and wipers with a bumper cover (it had holes in it) for 29,500....they obviously know something about the market we don't.

 

Wow that’s absurd. They must be pricing in for “cult following” combined with low supply. Luckily, I can play the waiting game, am in no rush to buy. Have you driven a gasser yet? What are your thoughts?