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I'm considering a CPO 2011 Touareg Sport with 52k. They are asking just under $34k. It looks like it was a one owner car and it was really well maintained. Do you think this is a good deal, or do you think I can get them down a bit?

Or, do you think that 52k is just too many miles?

Any help would be awesome.
 
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Try 30k. Thats reasonable imo
 
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Should I be really worried even with a 2 year, 24k CPO warranty? Also, I'm considering purchasing an extended warranty.

In general, I'm a little nervous that in another 2 years I could easily have 90k on the car. Do these cars generally have more issues the older they get, or do they eventually settle in and stop having problems?
 
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SamTrooper said:
Edit * looks like they replaced the fuel injectors and a couple modules, this isn't a normal thing i'd be wary, even though it looks like the entire fuel system wasn't replaced.
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2011 Touaregs were prone to fuel pump failures. There is another thread buried on this site that said the pump pressures were too high. The replacement pumps lowered the pressures which solved the problem.

Unfortunetly, because of the fuel pump failure and repair under warrantee, you can not get the car "VW certified", but by all other accounts on the car fax, it looks like it could easily pass otherwise..

I mean, nitrogen filled tires? I do that on my race car, but to see it on a regular passenger car is a bit unusual.

car looks good to me, but I would not purchase it without an extended warrantee.
 
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yisrael42 said:
Should I be really worried even with a 2 year, 24k CPO warranty? Also, I'm considering purchasing an extended warranty.

In general, I'm a little nervous that in another 2 years I could easily have 90k on the car. Do these cars generally have more issues the older they get, or do they eventually settle in and stop having problems?
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All cars have more issues the older they get. They're machines, so they wear out. The T3 Touareg isn't old enough to have a predictable long-term reliability record, and the general case guarantees nothing about your particular vehicle anyway. Extended warranties are also less comprehensive than new car warranties. The protection they provide is against catastrophic failure -- blown transmission, dropped piston, exploding differential.

All that said, 90k isn't excessive for a well maintained contemporary vehicle. You just have to accept the fact that occasionally you'll have to do some sort of repair or replacement. If you're lucky, maintenance won't cost a fortune. But it won't be cheap either. And repair costs are inevitable.
 
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My advice if you're strongly considering the purchase:

Call the servicing dealer (King) and ask them for all of their repair records on the vehicle. There is likely much more information, or at least more detailed information, than you will get from a CarFax summary. Then pursue what the information means.

There are other threads about this, but don't assume the CPO means the vehicle is in tip top shape. In my opinion (and experience), CPO has value for potential problems that might develop within the warranty period, but minimal value as to the actual condition of the vehicle prior to sale.

Good luck in your search!
 
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Reading the CarFax on the subject vehicle I see that fuel system parts were replaced by the servicing dealer on the 2011 TDI Treg:

Glow plugs
Fuel injectors
Fuel pump control module
Engine compression (i.e. fuel combustion) was also checked

The subject vehicle definitely had fuel supply/delivery/compressive combustion issues at ~22k miles.

With any diesel, fuel supply/delivery/compressive combustion issues are death knells for driveability and reliability. Probably why the original owner dumped the vehicle with ~50k on the ticker? Unless it was a rented - I mean leased - vehicle and the lease term was up?

A thorough pre-purchase inspection will reveal brake wear status. The 2011 Treg TDI weighs 4975 pounds dry. That significant inertial mass burns up brakes (and tires!) quick. I can darn near guarantee that, with 52k on the ticker, the front brakes are near gone - if they haven't been replaced since new.

VW recommends replacing brakes at all four wheels on the Treg when brakes are needed. Why? Probably to drive VW Dealer Service Department revenues. A four-wheel brake job performed by a VW Dealer Service Department will lighten your bank account by ~$2k all in.

If the brakes are near gone on the subject vehicle, subtract the $2k that the brake job will cost from any negotiated purchase price.

Definitely agree that a visit with the Service Manager at the servicing dealer (King) is a wise pre-purchase investment of time and effort.

Given the original servicing dealer (King) is also now the selling dealer, you may not get much 'truth' from the dealer concerning the vehicle's service history.

Caveat emptor!
 
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There are plenty of other Touaregs about: do NOT get into bed with any that have had accident damage or major repairs and if you find one you like, then take it for a really good run before even thinking about making an offer on it.
 
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So I just got off the phone with the servicing dealer. The service guy looked up the records and let me know that they did replace the fuel pump module, but not the entire fuel system.

Also, the muffler was removed to replace/work on the adblue system.

He said that he wouldn't hesitate to purchase the vehicle.

I'm now shopping this against a 2013 Tiguan SEL with 14k miles.

So, not to be annoying but any last thoughts would be awesome. I know they are two different cars, but I do like both. I think i'd miss the fuel economy of the TDI though.
 
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The similarity between a Tig and Egg is cosmetic, no comparison IMHO.
 
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Out of curiosity I checked VW CPO inventory on the VWUSA website. For approximately the same money I'd be more interested in the 2010 in Snellville, Ga (35,8xx miles) or the 2011 in Hickory, N. C. (36,xxx miles). The one in N. C. is a day's drive from you: same model, same price, much lower mileage.

There's also a 2012 in Vienna, Va. for more money ($42,500) also with lower mileage (just under 30,000).

These are all diesel, by the way.
 
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Tiguan is a very nice cross over, much more reliable than the T1 and T2. T3 was pretty reliable till now.
As for the fuel consumption on tiguan, it will be a bit worse than on the TDI Touareg. Are you talking about the 2.0L 200hp tiguan?

A few days ago watched a comparison between Silverado and the VW Amarok.
Amarok 2.0 TDI Engine, Silverado 5.3 V8. Loading capacity on both vehicles around 1000kg, 0-60 in the Amarok a bit less than 10 seconds, in Silverado 8.8 seconds, fuel consumption 16 Silverado against 34 Amarok. Torque 400NM against 500 in Silverado.

And it is a comparison between a 4vs8 cylinder trucks.

Just saying :D
 
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