Hi Everyone -
First post here with a doosey...'06 V10 Treg, trying to get it back on the road after dropping the engine myself to swap both turbos, EGR sensors, and Tandem Pump...also took the opportunity to replace the freewheel and generator coupling.
The turbos were rebuilt by XSBoost Technologies who did a great job. The work they completed is as follows:
Right Bank Turbo:
- Rebuild bearing housing
- Replace gear and motor in VGT actuator
- Replace board in VGT actuator - Board would not respond to turboclinic tester
Left Bank Turbo:
- Rebuild Bearing Housing
- Replace gear and motor in VGT actuator
- Board for actuator was in good condition and was reused
I reassembled everything and through VCDS am getting the following errors between ECM1 and ECM2:
Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 070 906 016 CQ HW: 028 101 196 2
Component: V10 5,0L EDCG001AGMª9805
Revision: --H02--- Serial number: VWZ3Z0E6443674
Coding: 0060575
Shop #: WSC 23328 444 104922
VCID: 612C708B7846F91AAAF078-5140
No fault code found.
Address 11: Engine II Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 070 906 016 CQ HW: 028 101 196 2
Component: V10 5,0L EDCG001AGSª9805
Revision: --H02--- Serial number: VWZ3Z0E6443674
Coding: 0060575
Shop #: WSC 23328 444 104922
VCID: 612C708B7846F91AAAF078-515E
1 Fault Found:
013110 - Control Module 2 for Turbocharger(s)
P3336 - 000 - Missing Message(s)
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 235343 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 588 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Absolute Pres.: 948.6 mbar
Absolute Pres.: 938.4 mbar
At that point I took the treg to the dealer to see what they could do with it. They inspected the wiring between the ECM and driver's side actuator (Actuator 2). They found the wiring to be correct and recommended I replace the actuator. Vehicle runs and drives fine, but because of the fault is in a sort of limp mode and will not provide enough fueling to generate any boost.
So I went home, put the lump up on the lift and checked the wiring for the passenger's side actuator. I get +12V between pins 1 and 2 per the wiring diagram and 60 ohms between CANH/CANL on pins 3 and 5 of the actuator connector with the ECM plugged in. Continuity checks out between each of the pins on the actuator and the corresponding pins on the ECM plugs.
started running output tests through VCDS...which is where the fun started...
Both actuators plugged in:
Fault Codes:
- ECM1: No fault Codes
- ECM2: Fault Code for Turbo Controller 2, missing messages
Output Tests
- ECM1: Boost Control Output Test runs both left and right bank actuators
- ECM2: Boost Control output test runs neither actuator
Both actuators unplugged:
Fault Codes:
- ECM1: Fault Code for Turbo Controller 2, missing messages
- ECM2: Fault Code for Turbo Controller 2, missing messages
Output Tests
- ECM1: Nothing
- ECM2: Nothing
Right bank actuator only plugged in to either right or left bank connector
Fault Codes:
- ECM1: No fault Codes
- ECM2: Fault Code for Turbo Controller 2, missing messages
Output Tests
- ECM1: Boost Control Output Test runs actuator
- ECM2: Boost Control output test does nothing
Left bank actuator only plugged in to either right or left bank connector
Fault Codes:
- ECM1: No fault Codes
- ECM2: Fault Code for Turbo Controller 2, missing messages
Output Tests
- ECM1: Boost Control Output Test runs actuator
- ECM2: Boost Control output test does nothing
What this appeared to me as is that XS boost mismatched the right and left turbos, and really replaced the left bank actuator with one from a right bank turbo.
Lucky for me, I had a pair of remanned turbos from Germany show up yesterday...2 months late...so went at it again with those actuators. Ended with the exact same results no matter which combination of the 4 actuators I tried.
Talked to a friend who is an engineer at Garrett, per him, the hardware between the two actuators is identical, but the CAN feedback identifiers have two different values between right and left bank.
Everything I can find at the moment is suggesting that I am extremely unlucky, and out of 4 actuators, managed to get 4 right bank actuators installed.
Does anyone have any other ideas, or does the logic seem sound? If so, any idea where or how I can have one of them re-flashed? Unfortunately I've burnt up 1/3rd of my vacation for the year with this turd so far, and have the worlds slowest 6000lb paperweight at the moment to show for it.
Really appreciate any help,
Malhon Godwin
First post here with a doosey...'06 V10 Treg, trying to get it back on the road after dropping the engine myself to swap both turbos, EGR sensors, and Tandem Pump...also took the opportunity to replace the freewheel and generator coupling.
The turbos were rebuilt by XSBoost Technologies who did a great job. The work they completed is as follows:
Right Bank Turbo:
- Rebuild bearing housing
- Replace gear and motor in VGT actuator
- Replace board in VGT actuator - Board would not respond to turboclinic tester
Left Bank Turbo:
- Rebuild Bearing Housing
- Replace gear and motor in VGT actuator
- Board for actuator was in good condition and was reused
I reassembled everything and through VCDS am getting the following errors between ECM1 and ECM2:
Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 070 906 016 CQ HW: 028 101 196 2
Component: V10 5,0L EDCG001AGMª9805
Revision: --H02--- Serial number: VWZ3Z0E6443674
Coding: 0060575
Shop #: WSC 23328 444 104922
VCID: 612C708B7846F91AAAF078-5140
No fault code found.
Address 11: Engine II Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 070 906 016 CQ HW: 028 101 196 2
Component: V10 5,0L EDCG001AGSª9805
Revision: --H02--- Serial number: VWZ3Z0E6443674
Coding: 0060575
Shop #: WSC 23328 444 104922
VCID: 612C708B7846F91AAAF078-515E
1 Fault Found:
013110 - Control Module 2 for Turbocharger(s)
P3336 - 000 - Missing Message(s)
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 235343 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 588 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Absolute Pres.: 948.6 mbar
Absolute Pres.: 938.4 mbar
At that point I took the treg to the dealer to see what they could do with it. They inspected the wiring between the ECM and driver's side actuator (Actuator 2). They found the wiring to be correct and recommended I replace the actuator. Vehicle runs and drives fine, but because of the fault is in a sort of limp mode and will not provide enough fueling to generate any boost.
So I went home, put the lump up on the lift and checked the wiring for the passenger's side actuator. I get +12V between pins 1 and 2 per the wiring diagram and 60 ohms between CANH/CANL on pins 3 and 5 of the actuator connector with the ECM plugged in. Continuity checks out between each of the pins on the actuator and the corresponding pins on the ECM plugs.
started running output tests through VCDS...which is where the fun started...
Both actuators plugged in:
Fault Codes:
- ECM1: No fault Codes
- ECM2: Fault Code for Turbo Controller 2, missing messages
Output Tests
- ECM1: Boost Control Output Test runs both left and right bank actuators
- ECM2: Boost Control output test runs neither actuator
Both actuators unplugged:
Fault Codes:
- ECM1: Fault Code for Turbo Controller 2, missing messages
- ECM2: Fault Code for Turbo Controller 2, missing messages
Output Tests
- ECM1: Nothing
- ECM2: Nothing
Right bank actuator only plugged in to either right or left bank connector
Fault Codes:
- ECM1: No fault Codes
- ECM2: Fault Code for Turbo Controller 2, missing messages
Output Tests
- ECM1: Boost Control Output Test runs actuator
- ECM2: Boost Control output test does nothing
Left bank actuator only plugged in to either right or left bank connector
Fault Codes:
- ECM1: No fault Codes
- ECM2: Fault Code for Turbo Controller 2, missing messages
Output Tests
- ECM1: Boost Control Output Test runs actuator
- ECM2: Boost Control output test does nothing
What this appeared to me as is that XS boost mismatched the right and left turbos, and really replaced the left bank actuator with one from a right bank turbo.
Lucky for me, I had a pair of remanned turbos from Germany show up yesterday...2 months late...so went at it again with those actuators. Ended with the exact same results no matter which combination of the 4 actuators I tried.
Talked to a friend who is an engineer at Garrett, per him, the hardware between the two actuators is identical, but the CAN feedback identifiers have two different values between right and left bank.
Everything I can find at the moment is suggesting that I am extremely unlucky, and out of 4 actuators, managed to get 4 right bank actuators installed.
Does anyone have any other ideas, or does the logic seem sound? If so, any idea where or how I can have one of them re-flashed? Unfortunately I've burnt up 1/3rd of my vacation for the year with this turd so far, and have the worlds slowest 6000lb paperweight at the moment to show for it.
Really appreciate any help,
Malhon Godwin
