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Arkarch

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I decided to acquire and install a 45" wide by 50" long Surco Safari Rack for my offroad Touareg in preparation for Colorado Rally. With family coming along for the ride, I needed to recover trunk room for additional baggage that would be coming along on the trip. In addition, having the space would be nice for many other trips, daily groceries, and when I load up the rig for communications events.

The listed configuration for a Surco Safari rack is 45" x 60" long. This should fit; however it would shadow the entire sunroof when installed. Since I wanted the sunroof for light, and the capability for a copilot to crawl through for 'hatch' viewing, I decided the 45" x 50" version was appropriate.

There are other options - Yakima and Thule make excellent roof baskets. However to go this route often means investing in their rack system or an adapter before the basket is acquired. And in most cases their roof basket s are about 40" wide. I desired more room to clear several Ham antennas mounted on the roof channel; as well opportunity to store 48" sections of mast, shovels, and other items along side the mounted tire.

The Surco Safari Rack can be acquired for around $260 with proper legs; with the Spare Tire Carrier an additional $80 using online shops.

The Surco Safari Rack arrived. Las Vegas neighbor and frequent Touareg offroader Vegas Matt generously offered to help, so we met at his garage / facility to install the system.

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Construction starts with 4 "L"-shaped basket sides.

Connect each side to form the loop. Sheet metal screws
are used to secure the sides together.

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Three slats are added to form the 'floor' of the basket.


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Two crossbeams are added. Threaded metal squares are slid into the channels to secure the side and each floor slat to the crossbeam.

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A bracket is added to secure the crossbeam to the side. Note how the screw is bolted into the threaded metal square.

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The grid of crossbeams, floor slats, and sides.

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Legs are added to the crossbeams.

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The structure as designed completed.

We lifted the completed structure onto the Touareg to examine the fit. Of issues, we needed to move the Surco Safari rack far enough forward to allow clearance for an open back hatch. This presented a very minor overlap of the sunroof.

The sharkfin antenna 'duck' had to be removed since the center floor slat blocked it. We could have moved the whole assemble further forward, however it would begin to block the sunroof access. The duck can be repositioned to the Surco rack once a suitable interconnect cable is found.

Also in this particular installation, several pre-existing Ham antenna mounts had been assembled into roof channel that included copper grounding to the nearest mounting hole. The Surco legs could not fit in those spots, so a decision was made to shift a crossbeam further back past a stanchion. New holes were drilled into the floor slats to accomplish the move.

After the test fit and changes to the crossbeam locations, we reinstalled the Ham antenna mounts and installed the Spare Tire carrier. The spare tire carrier attaches directly to the floor slats and crossbeam.

The entire assembly was relifted onto the Touareg. Then began a painful task of aligning the basket on the crossbeams and then locking the legs to the vehicle. While the mounting system works, working short bolts into metal squares in the channel proved challenging. We ended up making shims to lift the threaded metal squares closer to the bolts during assembly. Several measurements were taken and we finally got with 1/8". Further review of the alignment will be undertaken after a week of use.

Then came the Spare Tire Carrier issue....

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Add any caption you like to this absurd situation here :)

During the final step we discovered that Surco had painted the Spare Tire Carrier threaded rod. Working the tire security bolt onto the rod - the paint gummed up the entire process and eventually got stuck. A forklift was employed to get a better angle on the Spare Tire mount since working on the step ladders was not a happy situation. Once the system was unstuck, Vegas Matt was able to strip the paint, clean the bolts with a wire brush, and add a bit of WD40.

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Success. Thanks Vegas Matt!!!
 
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Conclusion...

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The final product. Arkarch regains a the rear storage area!

Some first impressions..

Up to about 50 mph, I did not hear any wind noise. Past 50 mph one can hear wind noise from the turbulence above the vehicle. Some improvements are being considered. It may sound better with a rear mounted tire, however this installation preferred the tire forward.

Its hard to say what 100 lbs of rack and tire does to corner handling on a 5300 lb vehicle. I'll get better impressions over time.
 
Good help must have been hard to find!!!:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Are you bringing the forklift to unload it if necessary??:razz:

Rick
Yeah, had this not-so-good helper been using his head, he'd have seen the impending problem and stripped the paint before even getting it on the roof ](*,) (One of those "Should have known better" moments)

As the giant wingnut that holds the wheel in place spiraled down the bolt, it kept packing scraped-off paint into the threads on both sides. It got to the point where, while on the ladder, I couldn't get enough leverage on it to loosen or tighten it. Not to mention, laying at an angle on one's ribs on a roof rack was becoming kind of uncomfortable. So, in came the heavy equipment, along with a much better (and less painful) angle of attack!

You just about need the forklift, as that mounted BFG is a heavy sumbitch to be wrestling with. I told Arkarch "Just don't get a flat and you won't have to worry about it." ;)

Matt
 
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Forklift - check. Now I just need a hitch and trailer to haul that around. :cool:

Giant Wingnut - Thats what I meant.

The spare tire threaded rod could be cut down to facilitate easier removal. It was probably designed to cover a thinner tire mounting wheel face up.

I really should go through the practice of removing that tire from its location before it happens for real. I think forward is still the better position for aerodynamics (whatever there is) and access by climbing up on the side seats/tire. Otherwise one would need to climb on a closed rear hatch with that slick trim piece.

I'll check around on longer mounting bolts to make mounting the roof channel easier. 1/4" more may be perfect if I can find them. Then one could probably mount and unmount the Safari rack as needed.
 
One option for helping to get the tire down: Larin Truck Tire Step

There's a ton of different brands available, google is your friend. I've got one, and they're pretty handy. For really short people, the still won't get you to your roof rack, but I'm only 5'10" and I can reach. Doesn't help with the weight though... =(
 
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Good idea...

Actually I can do a fairly good job climbing on the rear seat / rear tire area (for balance). With one of my seats usually down (and bottom removed) it makes an ok platform.

Nevertheless the outboard idea is good.
 
Hello,

I enjoyed reading your article, Arkarch. I too have ordered a Safari Roof Rack for my 2004 V8. However, I decided to get the 45x60". So, I can stored a full size spare tyre and jerry cans.

I have just a few questions.

I presumed you had to take off the factory ski racks to install the roof rack, correct?

Since, your rack slightly overlaps your sunroof, is the rack still tall enough for you to pop the sunroof open?

How did you route your communications cables from the roof to inside your Treg? I intend to install some lights on my roof rack.

Thanks!
 
Discussion starter · #9 ·
Hello,

I presumed you had to take off the factory ski racks to install the roof rack, correct?

Since, your rack slightly overlaps your sunroof, is the rack still tall enough for you to pop the sunroof open?

How did you route your communications cables from the roof to inside your Treg? I intend to install some lights on my roof rack.

Thanks!
Yes, I had to remove the ski racks - just leave the tracks in.

No overlap on the sunroof. I went for the 50". I did have the remove the rubber duck key antenna on the rear (for the '06). Other years may clear. Its pretty far back, but still clear of the rear hatch when open.

I just routed them around the rear hatch hinges, cut a notch in the plastic moldings just below the hinges, and routed all the way down to the gasketed holes behind the bumpers (reachable from the passenger side cubby.
 
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Great! Fortunately, I do not have the rubber duck key antenna.

So, how do you like the roof rack since you installed it?
It worked really well on the 2006. You will, however, likely get a bunch of nasty bug hits on the front portions. Might have lost a MPG or two due to the aero.. Not much noise.

For the future.. The lines on the T2 are more horizontal - more swept back... The T1 has more vertical to it. Just styling cues like the headlights tweak it that way; and I kinda like the newer roofbars. So I may not use the Surco on the 2009. I'm looking more for a recessed crossbar approach to mount lights and antennas, and perhaps a tire... though the tire may just end up being inside or hitch mounted.
 
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