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I wrecked my '07 Touareg only going about 15-20 mph, hit a telephone pole which was frail and broke, smh. Anyway, got to working on the wheel damage and had a broken tie rod, broken spindle knuckle and the axel was popped out with a damaged seal. Also the strut metal was bent so it got replaced as well. Control arms were fine. After getting everything put back together which went together perfect. The tire now sits back at least 2 inches. First thought is frame damage. After looking at the carriage it doesn't appear to be bent. I guess my question would be could the bushing bolts be bent/shifted or the subframe be bent and unnoticeable? What else could have that tire assembly shifted that far back? Before jumping into replacing the subframe which appears to be a lot of labor and the need for a special hydrolic tool right? Any info or idea's would be gratefully appreciated.
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Nope. Control arms are designed to be bent first. If there is no mark on subframe bolts that fram has moved, then control arms are definetly bent. You just might not see it. I would say its the lower arm. But try to spot the places where rust/paint/dirt has broken off, there is a bent place. Also look at the mounting spots of the lower arm in subframe.
 

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That car needs to go on a proper jig in a specialist bodyshop to get the geometry right.
 

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The subframe is attached to the bodyshell.

At the moment you don't know if the bodyshell itself is bent somewhere.

You need know the bodyshell is true - hence putting the car on a jig to find out.

Here's the kind of thing I mean:

Chassis Straightening and Vehicle Jig Work Edinburgh
 

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If money weren't an issue, I would def. consider this. Can they pull outside from the sides, with just the fenders off? Not sure how they would get a wrap around frame. In order for the right side to be bent in in a little. The subframe seems like a it would be a few degrees buckled in. It also seems like a super support structure.
 

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You can see if subframe has moved if there is marks of movement in the bolts that attach it to chassis. Many times you can just loose them a bit and push the subframe back to its original place. If subframe is clearly bent it has to be replaced. If it's just little bend in lower control arm area and not cracked you might be able to just adjust the arm from its inner bolts. They are both adjustable. If the pole hit the front of the wheel it usually bends the lower arm and damages the tie rod. I have newer seen a bent chassis without a direct hard hit to it. Can you post a picture of the damage and the wheel support. And if you have removed the lower arm, you could have just messed the alignment with that as camber and caster both are adjusted from the two inner bushings.
 
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