Has anyone in this thread suggested doing anything differently?
VW specify 507.00 for my Touareg - that'll what it'll get.
What makes VW 507 oil so necessary?
I can't help but to think, if our vehicles-3.0 TDI motors-are so special, so expensive and so exclusive, why do we need the magical VW 507 spec. oil? What is it in our motors that makes them so seemingly magical that they need this oil we can't just by at Vatozone, Advanced Auto, Walmart, etc. and have to pay about $10 a quart for?
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VW specify 507.00 for my Touareg - that'll what it'll get.
Well, that second-guessing VW seems to be the underlying issue in Post #1, and we frequently see folks grumbling about the hard to find 507 00 oil (i.e., you can't just run down to your local Walmart or auto parts store). I suspect there are folks tempted to use a non-507 00 synthetic 5W-30 oil (even a "diesel" oil) that is easier to find and seems to be the same.Has anyone in this thread suggested doing anything differently? VW specify 507.00 for my Touareg - that'll what it'll get.
Is it really hard to find 507.00 in the US?Well, that second-guessing VW seems to be the underlying issue in Post #1, and we frequently see folks grumbling about the hard to find 507 00 oil (i.e., you can't just run down to your local Walmart or auto parts store). I suspect there are folks tempted to use a non-507 00 synthetic 5W-30 oil (even a "diesel" oil) that is easier to find and seems to be the same.
It's available at sensible prices (for the UK!) at Asda, Walmart's subsidiary here in the UK and even cheaper on UK-ebay
Yes. Only a few select parts stores carry it; Pep Boys and Napa that I know of. Isn't really stocked anywhere else.Is it really hard to find 507.00 in the US?
It's available at sensible prices (for the UK!) at Asda, Walmart's subsidiary here in the UK and even cheaper on UK-ebay
If you look at the proportion of diesels to gasoline cars in the U.S. vs U.K., I'm fairly certain U.K. has A LOT more diesels than we do.
Other than at your VW dealer or mail order, 507 00 does not seem to be readily-available at our local big box stores (Walmart) and auto parts stores. That inconvenience seems to be the crux of the issue here. I don't think it is a cost issue.Is it really hard to find 507.00 in the US?
It's available at sensible prices (for the UK!) at Asda, Walmart's subsidiary here in the UK and even cheaper on UK-ebay
SOME Pep Boys and NAPA stores...and some AutoZones, some O'Reillys....not all. Only my local Pep Boys and AutoZone stores (2 stores in a 20-mile radius) carry Mobil 1 ESP, and sometimes they're sold out.Yes. Only a few select parts stores carry it; Pep Boys and Napa that I know of. Isn't really stocked anywhere else.
If you look at the proportion of diesels to gasoline cars in the U.S. vs U.K., I'm fairly certain U.K. has A LOT more diesels than we do.
Think of it this way - there are barely 600,000 VAG diesels in all of America, and of those, probably a small minority of owners change their own oil. 500,000+ of those are Jetta/Golf owners, and some of them probably go to Jiffy Lube and then wonder why their DPFs clog and engines fail way too soon. Many of the rest probably go to the dealer or a certified VW mechanic.
In other words, few are buying their own oil, so the demand isn't really here for a wide selection of VW - certified oils.
In Europe, the concept of different oil for diesel and petrol/gasoline is disappearing - the ACEA-A grades for petrol/gasoline and ACEA-B grades for diesel have been more or less superceded by the ACEA-C grades which cover both - it's part of the continuous process to unify the emission limits for petrol/gasoline and petrol, at least for cars.Yes. Only a few select parts stores carry it; Pep Boys and Napa that I know of. Isn't really stocked anywhere else.
If you look at the proportion of diesels to gasoline cars in the U.S. vs U.K., I'm fairly certain U.K. has A LOT more diesels than we do.
All the VW 507.00 oils I've seen are also ACEA-C3.
But are all 5W-30 ACEA-C3 oils also 507.00?All the VW 507.00 oils I've seen are also ACEA-C3.
Gents, what is argued about here? I won't risk using oil not rated VW507 in my rig, neither do I know the one who wants to do that. Besides, a person who drives a diesel Touareg will not shop for oil at Walmart simply out of self-respect. Perhaps VW 507 oil is not that common in the US as “regular” synthetic oil and it costs a few dollars more, but what is the big deal about this inconvenience?
Well, for one, if you find you need to add a quart of oil, and can't find a place that carries 507.00.Gents, what is argued about here? I won't risk using oil not rated VW507 in my rig, neither do I know the one who wants to do that. Besides, a person who drives a diesel Touareg will not shop for oil at Walmart simply out of self-respect. Perhaps VW 507 oil is not that common in the US as “regular” synthetic oil and it costs a few dollars more, but what is the big deal about this inconvenience?
And I shop at Walmart all the time. More likely it's the Porsche and Audi diesel owners who will not shop at Walmart.
I always carry a bottle of 507 in the rig just in case, precisely because it can be difficult to get on short notice.
No, definitely not!But are all 5W-30 ACEA-C3 oils also 507.00?
Some are, some aren't - but of course we don't know which ones aren't simply because the maker didn't pay for the VW certification and which ones aren't because they don't comply.
You speak for yourself! We regularly shop at Asda, Walmart's UK subsidiary and I have no problem buying oil there - of course it has to be the right grade and specification, probably the cheapest place in the UK for Castrol and Mobil 507.00 - I can get it even cheaper elsewhere though, lesser brand but still 507.00.Gents, what is argued about here? I won't risk using oil not rated VW507 in my rig, neither do I know the one who wants to do that. Besides, a person who drives a diesel Touareg will not shop for oil at Walmart simply out of self-respect. Perhaps VW 507 oil is not that common in the US as “regular” synthetic oil and it costs a few dollars more, but what is the big deal about this inconvenience?
Then what is your point about Europe and ACEA-C grades? What you are looking for is 507.00.No, definitely not!
Some are, some aren't - but of course we don't know which ones aren't simply because the maker didn't pay for the VW certification and which ones aren't because they don't comply.
My point was that since all 507.00 seems to be ACEA-C3, it's not a diesel specific oil - it's suitable for both some diesels and some petrol/gasoline hence the "C" designation.Then what is your point about Europe and ACEA-C grades? What you are looking for is 507.00.
I know I need 507.00 - as I think does everyone else.
But the point, or issue, that started this thread is what is magic about 507.00 engine oil, and not gasoline vs. diesel engine oils, or ACEA-C vs. A and B engine oils. In the U.S. we do have engine oils that are labeled as "diesel" engine oils, probably even some 5W-30 oils. I'm not sure that "everyone" who owns a TDI knows THAT they need 507.00 specifically, or WHY they need 507.00 specifically.My point was that since all 507.00 seems to be ACEA-C3, it's not a diesel specific oil - it's suitable for both some diesels and some petrol/gasoline hence the "C" designation.
I know I need 507.00 - as I think does everyone else.
WHY? Do we need to know?But the point, or issue, that started this thread is what is magic about 507.00 engine oil, and not gasoline vs. diesel engine oils, or ACEA-C vs. A and B engine oils. In the U.S. we do have engine oils that are labeled as "diesel" engine oils, probably even some 5W-30 oils. I'm not sure that "everyone" who owns a TDI knows THAT they need 507.00 specifically, or WHY they need 507.00 specifically.
As an aside, the ACEA classifications in Europe take away all the need for debate that seems incessant in the US.
All I ever need to know about an engine oil is the car makers approval code for the handful of brands who define it that way (generally BMW, Mercedes-Benz and VW Group) or API viscosity and ACEA grade for any other car brand.
I don't care whether an oil is mineral, part-synthetic, semi-synthetic, fully synthetic or real synthetic which seems to dominate US website discussions about oil - if it meets the car makers requirement, that's all I need. I do understand that oil chemists needs to know a lot more - but the consumer doesn't.
No. Amazon Prime will drop several different brands of 'Approved 507.00' oil on your doorstep.Is it really hard to find 507.00 in the US?
EuropaParts has Total Quartz INEO Long Life 5W-30 for $6.95 a quart.
PepBoys
No one can claim it's hard to find, unless they fail to plan ahead.
Jesus H.
People, relax. Clearly an opinion on whether or not it's hard to find. To me, driving within a reasonable distance is what's hard to find or not. You can ship it anywhere from the world to your home that takes a bit of time if you are in a pinch.
People, relax. Clearly an opinion on whether or not it's hard to find. To me, driving within a reasonable distance is what's hard to find or not. You can ship it anywhere from the world to your home that takes a bit of time if you are in a pinch.
I love these 10 page discussions about oil.........
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