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VW Touareg RNS850 Australia Region Maps Update - version 5.13.4 latest one... 2021

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Here's the newest available map update for the RNS850 Australia Region:


1. You can't find this archive anywhere in the internet, cause it's made by myself. It's a simple Audi MMI3GP conversion.
2. Databases are 100% identical with VW standard. There is no ingeration in originality of the databases.
3. This package is CHECKED. There was a successful upload.
4. Don't use Green Menu, You need to use User Defined method.
5. Don't ask how to upload it into Your RNS. There's answer for that in the internet.
6. If Your map won't work after 3-4 minutes after the update don't panic. It means You need to activate it. This scripts slays process which checks if the maps are activated. Here, it will make Your maps work:


or unblocker from DrGER:


7. Please RESHARE. If You've downloaded it and it's working, upload it to any possible server to share with other people. Even You can post alternative links in here. Don't let other people to earn money on this.
8. Have no knowledge if TMC works, but it should.
9. If someone is successful with updating, please don't be shy and let us know. If it fails, also please send a post.
10. It looks like AN (australian) firmwares are identical with ECE (european) ones. It works for P0824 nad K0821. It won't work with old firmwares.
11. If You don't know what to do please ask for help. No shame in it, but don't be lazy.
12. Ths map is from 2021. The newest means there's no other higher available version. Probably there won't be any.
13. Don't use MacOS to extract or upload Your files onto SD Card!
14. When You'll have 03623 or 03276 errors in 5F module after the update I can help fix them (one of them requires VCDS).

This is how to solve one error:

This is how to solve the other:

15. Use solid SD Card, not a microSD with adapter.
16. Here's P0824 firmware (for ROW - Rest of World and ECE - Europe only):


This is how the Australian maps look like after the update (Thx to @Steve_L):
Ecoregion Map World Slope Rectangle

Property Ecoregion Map World Land lot


This is the system information You get after making a successful maps update:
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P.S. Feel free to ask me any questions (except for stupid ones).
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There's an error in the name of the folder and filename. I'll fix it and send You once again a link.
Success!!!

Turns out that the copy of P0824 firmware would not run any scripts, so I re-installed a different copy of 824 and found an activator that ran straight away. Maps have stayed functional since then.

Thanks to @Lysy for putting these maps together.

P0824 firmware - прошивка Р0824
Activator - navunblocker-230127.zip
I'm glad this worked for the you. But a point of clarification: the method Keldo described in early 2014 is not nav database "activation" -- rather, it patches the MMI operating system to by-pass the normal nav database activation process. Calling this an "activator" creates unnecessary confusion, as people now expect it to be tied somehow to a particular nav database release, region, and VIN. The unblocker patch can be run on any Harman-Becker MMI3G/3G+ system to by-pass normal nav database activation, which is based on dealer supplied FSC files coded for specific nav database releases. --g
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Hi Lysy, Brief Obsession apology in advance if you consider these to a stupid questions.
The first step in the update instructions is to connect a battery charger to the car.
Can it be any type of charger?
WHY is this done?
Is it because the ignition will need to be left on for a long time while the update is being completed?
Hi all, tried using the link for the P0824 file but I am getting a download message 'Failed - Server problem'
Is there any other site I can go to for this file?
@TASSIE TIGER
I just tried downloading that file.
I used Google Chrome.....
File size is 722mb (compressed)
When it's downloaded, I'll send you another link ;)
@TASSIE TIGER What firmware do You have now?

If Your battery is having issues with keeping the voltage it's recommended to use a charger. Since Touareg have AGM battery because of auto start-stop engine function You need to use it in AGM / EFB / Winter mode. But... I did my uploads without it. The map for Europe is about 26 GB and it takes aprox. 1.5h, for Australia it's 3 GB. I even locked my car and went away during the process. My point is, the upload for AN will be much quicker, so you don't really need to apply any charger if Your battery is efficient.
I'm glad this worked for the you. But a point of clarification: the method Keldo described in early 2014 is not nav database "activation" -- rather, it patches the MMI operating system to by-pass the normal nav database activation process. Calling this an "activator" creates unnecessary confusion, as people now expect it to be tied somehow to a particular nav database release, region, and VIN. The unblocker patch can be run on any Harman-Becker MMI3G/3G+ system to by-pass normal nav database activation, which is based on dealer supplied FSC files coded for specific nav database releases. --g
Some people had calculated prefix for their FSC file from a MAC address of WLAN module ;) Here's a description:

Keldo's script without FSC file on the SD Card will not work. It makes no sense for me, and I haven't analyzed it yet, but my guess is that puting right XCode as a prefix could prevent from having 03263 fault in 5F module. I can't find any other reason now.
@Lysy : The bogus FSC file included with the Keldo script is a distraction, in my opinion. The method that Keldo proposed in 2014 is not documented properly anywhere -- the web site you reference simply re-iterates the actions of the various Keldo/Vlasoff scripts. I'm really surprised that no one has bothered to look more closely at this so-called "activator" script since it appeared 9+ years ago.

Regarding DTCs following a nav database update, DTC 03623 - Invalid Security/Release Code, is always present because the FSC file is not valid for the new nav database (even with the bogus file installed by the Keldo/Vlasoff scripts), but because process vdev-logvolmgr is terminated, it doesn't matter -- the activation process has been by-passed. Sometimes, DTC 03623 can be removed in the GEM, but not always. Removing the invalid FSC will prevent DTC 03623, but new DTC 03677 - Missing FSC File is issued following the next nav database update. In this case, the DTC can be cleared in the GEM easily (see Appendix C in my MMI3G update document: mmi3gp-updating-20230226.pdf). For the majority of end-users who do not have a VAG-aware diagnostic tool like ODIS, VCDS, OBDeleven, etc., these DTCs will never be noticed, as they have no affect on MMI system functionality. --g
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There is a script to delete (according to it's description) all faulty FSC keys. After applying it 03623 error goes away immediately, without a need to clear it with VCDS and not triggering other errors. I can send You working one, if You fancy (majority of them isn't working at all).

I've read already Your instruction, it's a very complex job :)
@Lysy : I re-wrote a version of the DTC 03623 script, described in my update guide PDF, last year. My next experiment will be to restore the original FSC file and clear my unblocker patch to replicate an unmodified system with an updated nav database -- then, to consider whether the unblocker patch can also remove FSC file(s) at the same time (rather than needing to apply two separate scripts to solve issues that are related to each other).

PS: I was going through some of my saved documents and found this: navigation_data_update.pdf
Note that proper nav database activation requires on-line ODIS and the activation document purchased from the dealer. --g
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From the manual You gave results, that there should be just one activation document for every database release. All this updating RNS procedure from VW is overcomplicated. The new systems have free updates, You can download fresh maps for any new VW car. You can really feel being unfairly treated...

Script which removes faulty FSC's, mounts proper one and removes Keldo's script would bring everyting just as it should be from the factory. Still wonder how this activation document looks like (You can buy one on the ebay) and how does look proper legal prefix of the FSC file - is it really based on the WLAN's MAC. I ripped my HDD but QNX 4.X filesystem is a mystery to most OS'ystems. There are 3 primary partitions, one extended and then 5 primaries as well. Need to install QNX 6.5.0 on VM...
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@Lysy : Remember, this Harman-Becker nav systems was developed a long time ago -- the first MMI3G systems were developed around 2006-2007 and later MMI3GP uses (essentially) the same nav database scheme. I don't think H-B or Audi expected too many people to be poking around the underlying QNX operating system to find a way around their FSC file-based nav database activation process. But, here we are, 15+ years later, and you can still pay Audi US$300+ for a proper "activation" for your already-out-of-date nav database (which was compiled & released more than a year or two earlier in the U.S.). Or you can disable the old activation scheme based on vdev-logvolmgr and not worry about it.
BTW, user JulianHicks @ a5oc.com has the activation document for his UK A8, which was updated just prior to his acquiring the car from a UK dealer as the second owner; he tells me it is essentially printed codes used to generate a new FSC with ODIS connected to Audi corporate in Germany.

Re reading your QNX HDD partitions, look over here for the QNX VM image: qnx650sp1-vm.zip
I use this with the VMWare Player v16 on both Win10 & Linux/Ubuntu. My current project is to figure out why the HN+ ifs-root.ifs filesystem image won't extract properly with dumpifs. --g
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@Lysy : JulianHicks over at a5oc shared images of his "activation document" for 8R0060884FK (Europe 2018/2019), which include a booklet with three codes (Activation code, Activation number, and PIN code). The document was published by HERE with part numbers T1000-26917 and T1000-26919. No SD card is included in the activation document. I believe the FSC file for the activation of this nav database release is created by the MMI software (possibly MMI3GApplication or the Java UI via an undocumented adaptation channel at Address 5F) due to the ODIS SVM - Activation process, described here: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2014/MC-10122522-9999.pdf
As such, any reference to fake FSC files with mysterious prefixes based on WLAN MAC address coding is all nonsense, in my opinion. All that matters here is that process vdev-logvolmgr is terminated soon after it creates a valid acios_db.ini file for the current installed nav database; after that, old or fake FSC files found in /HBpersistence/FSC are considered invalid, and throw DTC 03623. Removing these FSC files at the same time the activation by-pass patch is installed appears (to me, anyway) to be the cleanest solution here. --g
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@Lysy : Remember, this Harman-Becker nav systems was developed a long time ago -- the first MMI3G systems were developed around 2006-2007 and later MMI3GP uses (essentially) the same nav database scheme. I don't think H-B or Audi expected too many people to be poking around the underlying QNX operating system to find a way around their FSC file-based nav database activation process. But, here we are, 15+ years later, and you can still pay Audi US$300+ for a proper "activation" for your already-out-of-date nav database (which was compiled & released more than a year or two earlier in the U.S.). Or you can disable the old activation scheme based on vdev-logvolmgr and not worry about it.
BTW, user JulianHicks @ a5oc.com has the activation document for his UK A8, which was updated just prior to his acquiring the car from a UK dealer as the second owner; he tells me it is essentially printed codes used to generate a new FSC with ODIS connected to Audi corporate in Germany.

Re reading your QNX HDD partitions, look over here for the QNX VM image: qnx650sp1-vm.zip
I use this with the VMWare Player v16 on both Win10 & Linux/Ubuntu. My current project is to figure out why the HN+ ifs-root.ifs filesystem image won't extract properly with dumpifs. --g
I'm using VMWare Player 15. Thank You for the image. I had already one from their page. Still have some issues, can't mount USB card reader... It's detected at boot but then goes missing. Should be in /dev/usb my guess is. Do I need to mount it manually?
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@Lysy : JulianHicks over at a5oc shared images of his "activation document" for 8R0060884FK (Europe 2018/2019), which include a booklet with three codes (Activation code, Activation number, and PIN code). The document was published by HERE with part numbers T1000-26917 and T1000-26919. No SD card is included in the activation document. I believe the FSC file for the activation of this nav database release is created by the MMI software (possibly MMI3GApplication or the Java UI via an undocumented adaptation channel at Address 5F) due to the ODIS SVM - Activation process, described here: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2014/MC-10122522-9999.pdf
As such, any reference to fake FSC files with mysterious prefixes based on WLAN MAC address coding is all nonsense, in my opinion. All that matters here is that process vdev-logvolmgr is terminated soon after it creates a valid acios_db.ini file for the current installed nav database; after that, old or fake FSC files found in /HBpersistence/FSC are considered invalid, and throw DTC 03623. Removing these FSC files at the same time the activation by-pass patch is installed appears (to me, anyway) to be the cleanest solution here. --g
It looks like a nonsense but my point was, that someone used this method for some reason. The script was Keldo's as mentioned on that website, but this XCode now I think wasn't referring to "activate" the maps with proper FSC key, since script was doing it in a completely different way. It's job was not trigger 03623 error I suppose. I could check it, recalculate my prefix, run the script and check whether error in 5F will be present or not. It might be a waste of time though...

Edit: on boot QNX can't detect any USB devices :(

About this card numbers, I bought an original 6.32.1 Europe Maps from VW dealer in Germany, looked liked this:
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Ok, I managed to work these USB devices. They need to be hotplugged. But my SD card reader with RNS850 HDD copy shows absolutely nothing normal...
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Well, after Wayne @BriefObsessions had success with the map install, I thought I would give it a go.
Downloaded from the links no problems.
Tried via full size SD Card - nope.
Put the map files onto a DVD-r - nope.
Put the files onto a USB stick - nope.

Each time I was getting this result:
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FWIW here is my firmware version:
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Any thoughts @Lysy ??
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My thought is that Your SD Card wasn't formatted with FAT32 and/or You used MacOS for extracting the archive. It's the first thing to check.
My thought is that Your SD Card wasn't formatted with FAT32 and/or You used MacOS for extracting the archive. It's the first thing to check.
FAT32 formatting.
I made sure of that. And no, I didn't select MacOS with the download. ;)
I meant did You use Windows or Apple computer to extract the files? Was Your card bigger than 32 GB?
I meant did You use Windows or Apple computer to extract the files? Was Your card bigger than 32 GB?
Windows PC (Windows 10)
8Gb card and also 8Gb USB
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