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V10 no start when hot

2981 Views 65 Replies 8 Participants Last post by  Professor Eggman
So I'm almost able to drive my 2006 V10 after a year, but I cannot get the engine to start after the coolant gets up to temp. When the engine is cold, or slightly warm, I can kill it and it will start right back up. When it's up to temp, if I kill it and immediately try to restart, it just cranks. I'm reaching the end of my ideas to figure this out. Here is what I've done so far to try to change this:

Fresh fuel
Removed and cleaned fuel pumps/filters, new fuel filter
Hardwired fuel pump to run continuously
Added jumper cables to another running engine to add starting power
Released pressure in coolant system
Opened PCV to atmosphere
Removed coolant temp connector
Removed coolant return temp connector
Opened ECU to check for corrosion: appears all intact, no areas of damage or corrosion
Checked all fuses and relays

Currently, cam position sensor is still reading "signal out of range", so signal return wire has been removed from ECU wire harness. This leaves "no signal" fault.
Also, Steering Angle sensor is not working despite all wires being intact and voltages present, leading to steering and steering wheel electronics faults.
Batteries and related grounds are in good condition, with batteries being kept on a charger/tender.
I'm also posting before and after scans of the hot no-start, as well as video of it cranking while hot.
If I can solve this, I'll finally be able to drive this beast on a regular basis.
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Auto-scan after not starting while hot:

Saturday,20,August,2022,10:20:37:00232
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 22.3.1.4 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4615.4
Data version: 20220407 DS337.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVGPT77L86D064508 License Plate:
Mileage: 297520km-184870mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 7L (7L - VW Touareg (2003 > 11/2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 08 09 11 13 15 16 17 18 19 1C 22 29 32 34 36
37 39 3C 46 47 55 56 57 64 65 68 69 6C 6D 6E 75 76 77

VIN: WVGPT77L86D064508 Mileage: 297520km-184870miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 070 906 016 CQ HW: 028 101 196 2
Component: V10 5,0L EDCG000AGMª8472
Revision: --H02--- Serial number: VWZ3Z0F6461178
Coding: 0060575
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 619FAC75CD59A483A01-5160
VINID: 9E65E09071DC206500184140209B10F74A

6 Faults Found:
008581 - Engine Coolant Temp Sensor on Radiator Outlet (G83)
P2185 - 000 - Signal too High
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 297524 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.16 V
Bin. Bits: 00001011
Temperature: 70.2°C
Temperature: 57.6°C

005441 - Fuel Pump Relay (J17)
P1541 - 000 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 297524 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.16 V
Bin. Bits: 00001011
(no units): 0.0
Bin. Bits: 00000000

012295 - Camshaft Position Sensor (G40)
P3007 - 000 - No Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01110000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 297524 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 147 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 11.02 V
Bin. Bits: 00001011
Idle Stabilization: 0.0°KW
(no units): 32.0

012546 - Motor for Intake Manifold Flap (V157)
P3102 - 000 - No Signal - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.54 V
Bin. Bits: 00001000
Torque: 0.0 Nm
Torque: 0.0 Nm

005784 - Please Check DTC Memory of Steering Wheel Electronics
P1698 - 000 -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 297524 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.46 V
Bin. Bits: 00001011
Bin. Bits: 11000000
(no units): 0.0

012545 - Motor for Intake Manifold Flap (V157)
P3101 - 000 - Open or Short to Ground - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 297524 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.46 V
Bin. Bits: 00001011
Torque: 323.9 Nm
Torque: 0.0 Nm

Readiness: 1 3 0 0 1

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09D-927-750.clb
Part No SW: 09D 927 750 DP HW: 09D 927 750 DP
Component: AL 750 6A 0856
Revision: 00H51000 Serial number:
Coding: 0004216
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 7F5B0A0D5BED7273B65-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 7L0-907-379-MK25.lbl
Part No: 7L0 907 379 G
Component: ESP ALLRAD MK25 0203
Coding: 0022786
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 3D2730051161A063E49-5160

5 Faults Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
01315 - Transmission Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
000 - -

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: None
Part No SW: 7L0 909 137 A HW: 5WK 485 02
Component: 29 Kessy 6700
Revision: 67005915 Serial number: VWZ3Z0F6461178
Coding: 0147688
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 313F1C35DD395403701-5160

Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: ELV XXXX

2 Faults Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01315 - Transmission Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass Labels: None
Part No: 7L0 959 760
Component: Sitzverstellung 0701
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 77ABE22D73DD4A33FE5-5160

2 Faults Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: None
Part No: 7L6 907 044 T
Component: CLIMAtronic 2+2 4222
Coding: 0020030
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 45D758E579B1E8A3BC9-5160

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 907 049 E
Component: CLIMAtronic FOND 0400

1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
(no units): 2.0
Temperature: 77.0°C
Temperature: 20.0°C
RPM: 0 /min


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:. 7Lx-937-049-V1.clb
Part No: 7L6 937 049 N
Component: 3002
Coding: 0111839
Shop #: WSC 22207 444 11731
VCID: 47CB52ED43BDFAB34E5-5160

10 Faults Found:
01494 - Bulb for Parking Lamps; Left (M1)
010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
01498 - Bulb for Parking Lamps; Right (M3)
010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00070 - Starting Battery Voltage
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01341 - Control Module in Instrument Panel On Comfort CAN (J285)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
00907 - Intervention load Management
000 - -
01314 - Engine Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
02195 - Dimmer Switch Instrument Panel & Switch Lighting (E20)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
02196 - Fuse for Control Module for Power Supply to Vehicle Battery (S287)
014 - Defective - Intermittent

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Address 11: Engine II Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 070 906 016 CQ HW: 028 101 196 2
Component: V10 5,0L EDCG000AGSª8472
Revision: --H02--- Serial number: VWZ3Z0F6461178
Coding: 0060575
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 619FAC75CD59A483A01-5160

1 Fault Found:
005784 - Please Check DTC Memory of Steering Wheel Electronics
P1698 - 000 -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 297524 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.46 V
Bin. Bits: 00001011
Bin. Bits: 11000000
(no units): 0.0


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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 3D0-909-601.lbl
Part No: 3D0 909 601 H
Component: 05 Airbag 8.4E++H01 0562
Revision: BB38727 Serial number: 0007828>
Coding: 0012341
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 2809F151EEE315CBA7F-5160

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L0 959 339 C
Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 006 0008

3 Faults Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 12
Reset counter: 255
Time Indication: 0

00532 - Supply Voltage B+
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 39
Time Indication: 0

01316 - ABS Control Module
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Time Indication: 0


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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 7L6-953-549.lbl
Part No: 7L6 953 549 H
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 3401
Coding: 0010032
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 44D145E1728BD1ABAB7-5160

1 Fault Found:
01426 - Controls in Steering Wheel (E221)
004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 7L6-920-xxx-7LA.lbl
Part No: 7L6 920 981 R
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT RB8 3211
Coding: 0007231
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 48C951D14EA3F5CB47F-5160

5 Faults Found:
00771 - Fuel Level Sensor (G)
010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00438 - Fuel Supply Sensor 2 (G169)
010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00562 - Sensor for Oil Level/Temperature (G266)
010 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01315 - Transmission Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 18: Aux. Heat Labels: 7L6-819-008.clb
Part No: 7L6 815 071 D
Component: Standheizung E1MAC
Coding: 0000100
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 3333163D2725661302D-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.clb
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<>CAN 0101
Coding: 0000006
Shop #: WSC 22207 444 11731
VCID: 70B9D93116B31D0B3FF-5160

2 Faults Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01315 - Transmission Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 1C: Position Sensing Labels: 7L6-919-879.lbl
Part No: 7L6 919 879 A
Component: JCI PathPoint 2200
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 45D758E579B1E8A3BC9-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD Labels: None
Part No: 0AD 927 755 AT
Component: TRANSFERCASE 0114
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 0D47A0C5614150E3B49-5160

1 Fault Found:
01315 - Transmission Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 29: Left Light Labels: 3D0-909-157.lbl
Part No: 3D0 909 157
Component: EVG GDL+AutoLWR(l) 0001
Coding: 0000003
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 6695BF692477C3BB553-513C

1 Fault Found:
00492 - Body Pitch Angle from Level Control Module
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 34: Level Control Labels: 7Lx-907-553-34.clb
Part No: 7L0 907 553 F
Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC- 3C3P1 3081
Coding: 0015521
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 36352F293457733B253-5160

2 Faults Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
004 - No Signal/Communication
02250 - Function Deactivation; Valve Duty Cycle
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: None
Part No: 7L0 959 760
Component: Sitzverstellung 0703
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 77ABE22D73DD4A33FE5-5160

2 Faults Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 7L6-919-887-DVD.lbl
Part No: 7L6 919 887 M
Component: Navigation 0047
Coding: 0000101
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 50F979B1B6F33D0B1FF-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 39: Right Light Labels: 3D0-909-158.lbl
Part No: 3D0 909 158
Component: EVG GDL+AutoLWR(r) 0001
Coding: 0000017
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 678BB26D237DDAB36E5-513C

2 Faults Found:
01539 - Headlights Not Adjusted
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - MIL ON
00003 - Control Module
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - MIL ON

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 7L0-959-933.lbl
Part No: 7L0 959 933 J
Component: HSG 5115
Coding: 0000085
Shop #: WSC 22207 444 11731
VCID: 43D346FD7785D69392D-4B1E

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L0 959 701 H
Component: Tuersteuergeraet FS 0201

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L0 959 702 H
Component: Tuersteuergeraet BF 0201

Subsystem 3 - Part No: 7L0 959 703 D
Component: Tuersteuergeraet HL 0201

Subsystem 4 - Part No: 7L0 959 704 D
Component: Tuersteuergeraet HR 0201

8 Faults Found:
00927 - Terminal 30 (Right)
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
01516 - Terminal 30; Left
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
00926 - Terminal 30
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
00576 - Terminal 15
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01830 - Bulbs for Fog-Lamps; Rear
009 - Open or Short to Ground
00485 - Drivers Outside Door Handle Central Locking Button (E369)
007 - Short to Ground - Intermittent
00488 - Rear Right Outside Door Handle Central Locking Button (E372)
007 - Short to Ground - Intermittent

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Address 47: Sound System Labels:
VCID: 55F788A58C015823CC9-5160
Note: Excessive Comm Errors


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Address 56: Radio Labels:
VCID: 55F788A58C015823CC9-FFFE


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Address 68: Wiper Electr. Labels: 7L0-955-119-V2.clb
Part No: 7L0 955 119 K
Component: Front Wiper 4027
Coding: 0000341
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 376832
VCID: 3C213D010A7BA96BD37-5160

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 T Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
Component: RegenLichtSens 011 1110
Coding: 00208933
Shop #: WSC 31414

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer Labels: 7L0-907-383-1D2.lbl
Part No SW: 7L0 907 383 G HW: 7L0 907 383 G
Component: ANHAENGERELEKTRONIK 8854
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 382921113E43854B37F-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam. Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
Part No SW: 7L6 907 441 HW: 7L6 907 441
Component: J772__Rearview 0051
Revision: 00H07000 Serial number: PA8 J620550
Coding: 0110001
Shop #: WSC 22207 444 11731
VCID: 72BDD33918BF2F1BC9B-5160

7 Faults Found:
03006 - Back-up Camera System not calibrated
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 180
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
Invalid
Invalid
Invalid

01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 37
Reset counter: 221
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Reverse OFF
Count: 3

02203 - Audio / Video Input 1
011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 220
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Reverse OFF
Count: 3

03008 - Supply Voltage for Back-Up Camera
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 221
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Reverse OFF
Count: 3

02203 - Audio / Video Input 1
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101011
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 220
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Reverse OFF
Count: 3

00455 - Control Module for Access and Start Control; Comfort CAN (J518)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 220
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 Off
Reverse OFF
Count: 3

01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
013 - Check DTC Memory
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 37
Reset counter: 221
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Reverse OFF
Count: 3


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Address 6E: Ctrl Head Roof Labels: None
Part No: 7L6 919 044 T
Component: DACHDISPLAY 0539
Revision: 00900539 Serial number: 2009289.07
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 48C951D14EA3F5CB47F-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No: 7L0 919 283 F
Component: 0E Einparkhilfe 1107
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 392F241505499C43C81-5160

2 Faults Found:
00435 - Front Right Inner Parking Aid Sensor (G333)
006 - Short to Plus
01543 - Parking Aid Warning Chime (H15)
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded

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Saturday,20,August,2022,10:31:09:00232
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 22.3.1.4 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4615.4
Data version: 20220407 DS337.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVGPT77L86D064508 License Plate:
Mileage: 297520km-184870mi Repair Order:


Chassis Type: 7L (7L - VW Touareg (2003 > 11/2006))
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 08 09 11 13 15 16 17 18 19 1C 22 29 32 34 36
37 39 3C 46 47 55 56 57 64 65 68 69 6C 6D 6E 75 76 77

VIN: WVGPT77L86D064508 Mileage: 297520km-184870miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 070 906 016 CQ HW: 028 101 196 2
Component: V10 5,0L EDCG000AGMª8472
Revision: --H02--- Serial number: VWZ3Z0F6461178
Coding: 0060575
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 619FAC75CD59A483A01-5160
VINID: 9E65E09071DC206500184140209B10F74A

4 Faults Found:
012546 - Motor for Intake Manifold Flap (V157)
P3102 - 000 - No Signal - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 297524 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.39 V
Bin. Bits: 00001000
Torque: 323.9 Nm
Torque: 0.0 Nm

012545 - Motor for Intake Manifold Flap (V157)
P3101 - 000 - Open or Short to Ground - MIL ON
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 11100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 297524 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.39 V
Bin. Bits: 00001000
Torque: 323.9 Nm
Torque: 0.0 Nm

008581 - Engine Coolant Temp Sensor on Radiator Outlet (G83)
P2185 - 000 - Signal too High
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 297524 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.39 V
Bin. Bits: 00001000
Temperature: 67.5°C
Temperature: 48.6°C

005784 - Please Check DTC Memory of Steering Wheel Electronics
P1698 - 000 -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 297524 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.39 V
Bin. Bits: 00001000
Bin. Bits: 00000000
(no units): 0.0

Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 09D-927-750.clb
Part No SW: 09D 927 750 DP HW: 09D 927 750 DP
Component: AL 750 6A 0856
Revision: 00H51000 Serial number:
Coding: 0004216
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 7F5B0A0D5BED7273B65-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 7L0-907-379-MK25.lbl
Part No: 7L0 907 379 G
Component: ESP ALLRAD MK25 0203
Coding: 0022786
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 3D2730051161A063E49-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: None
Part No SW: 7L0 909 137 A HW: 5WK 485 02
Component: 29 Kessy 6700
Revision: 67005915 Serial number: VWZ3Z0F6461178
Coding: 0147688
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 313F1C35DD395403701-5160

Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: ELV XXXX

No fault code found.

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass Labels: None
Part No: 7L0 959 760
Component: Sitzverstellung 0701
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 77ABE22D73DD4A33FE5-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: None
Part No: 7L6 907 044 T
Component: CLIMAtronic 2+2 4222
Coding: 0020030
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 45D758E579B1E8A3BC9-5160

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 907 049 E
Component: CLIMAtronic FOND 0400

1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
(no units): 2.0
Temperature: 77.0°C
Temperature: 20.0°C
RPM: 0 /min


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels:. 7Lx-937-049-V1.clb
Part No: 7L6 937 049 N
Component: 3002
Coding: 0111839
Shop #: WSC 22207 444 11731
VCID: 47CB52ED43BDFAB34E5-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 11: Engine II Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 070 906 016 CQ HW: 028 101 196 2
Component: V10 5,0L EDCG000AGSª8472
Revision: --H02--- Serial number: VWZ3Z0F6461178
Coding: 0060575
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 619FAC75CD59A483A01-5160

1 Fault Found:
005784 - Please Check DTC Memory of Steering Wheel Electronics
P1698 - 000 -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 297524 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.39 V
Bin. Bits: 00001000
Bin. Bits: 00000000
(no units): 0.0


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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 3D0-909-601.lbl
Part No: 3D0 909 601 H
Component: 05 Airbag 8.4E++H01 0562
Revision: BB38727 Serial number: 0007828>
Coding: 0012341
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 2809F151EEE315CBA7F-5160

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L0 959 339 C
Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 006 0008

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 7L6-953-549.lbl
Part No: 7L6 953 549 H
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 3401
Coding: 0010032
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 44D145E1728BD1ABAB7-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 7L6-920-xxx-7LA.lbl
Part No: 7L6 920 981 R
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT RB8 3211
Coding: 0007231
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 48C951D14EA3F5CB47F-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 18: Aux. Heat Labels: 7L6-819-008.clb
Part No: 7L6 815 071 D
Component: Standheizung E1MAC
Coding: 0000100
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 3333163D2725661302D-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.clb
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<>CAN 0101
Coding: 0000006
Shop #: WSC 22207 444 11731
VCID: 70B9D93116B31D0B3FF-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 1C: Position Sensing Labels: 7L6-919-879.lbl
Part No: 7L6 919 879 A
Component: JCI PathPoint 2200
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 45D758E579B1E8A3BC9-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD Labels: None
Part No: 0AD 927 755 AT
Component: TRANSFERCASE 0114
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 0D47A0C5614150E3B49-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 29: Left Light Labels: 3D0-909-157.lbl
Part No: 3D0 909 157
Component: EVG GDL+AutoLWR(l) 0001
Coding: 0000003
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 6695BF692477C3BB553-513C

No fault code found.

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Address 34: Level Control Labels: 7Lx-907-553-34.clb
Part No: 7L0 907 553 F
Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC- 3C3P1 3081
Coding: 0015521
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 36352F293457733B253-5160

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: None
Part No: 7L0 959 760
Component: Sitzverstellung 0703
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 77ABE22D73DD4A33FE5-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation Labels:
VCID: 55F788A58C015823CC9-FFFE


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Address 39: Right Light Labels: 3D0-909-158.lbl
Part No: 3D0 909 158
Component: EVG GDL+AutoLWR(r) 0001
Coding: 0000017
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 678BB26D237DDAB36E5-513C

2 Faults Found:
00003 - Control Module
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - MIL ON
01539 - Headlights Not Adjusted
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - MIL ON

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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 7L0-959-933.lbl
Part No: 7L0 959 933 J
Component: HSG 5115
Coding: 0000085
Shop #: WSC 22207 444 11731
VCID: 43D346FD7785D69392D-4B1E

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L0 959 701 H
Component: Tuersteuergeraet FS 0201

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L0 959 702 H
Component: Tuersteuergeraet BF 0201

Subsystem 3 - Part No: 7L0 959 703 D
Component: Tuersteuergeraet HL 0201

Subsystem 4 - Part No: 7L0 959 704 D
Component: Tuersteuergeraet HR 0201

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System Labels:
VCID: 55F788A58C015823CC9-5160
Note: Excessive Comm Errors


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Address 56: Radio Labels:
VCID: 55F788A58C015823CC9-FFFE


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Address 68: Wiper Electr. Labels: 7L0-955-119-V2.clb
Part No: 7L0 955 119 K
Component: Front Wiper 4027
Coding: 0000341
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 376832
VCID: 3C213D010A7BA96BD37-5160

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 T Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
Component: RegenLichtSens 011 1110
Coding: 00208933
Shop #: WSC 31414

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer Labels: 7L0-907-383-1D2.lbl
Part No SW: 7L0 907 383 G HW: 7L0 907 383 G
Component: ANHAENGERELEKTRONIK 8854
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 382921113E43854B37F-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam. Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
Part No SW: 7L6 907 441 HW: 7L6 907 441
Component: J772__Rearview 0051
Revision: 00H07000 Serial number: PA8 J620550
Coding: 0110001
Shop #: WSC 22207 444 11731
VCID: 72BDD33918BF2F1BC9B-5160

2 Faults Found:
03006 - Back-up Camera System not calibrated
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 181
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
Invalid
Invalid
Invalid

01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
013 - Check DTC Memory
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101101
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 181
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
Term 15 On
Reverse OFF
Count: 3


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Address 6E: Ctrl Head Roof Labels: None
Part No: 7L6 919 044 T
Component: DACHDISPLAY 0539
Revision: 00900539 Serial number: 2009289.07
Shop #: WSC 31414 000 00000
VCID: 48C951D14EA3F5CB47F-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No: 7L0 919 283 F
Component: 0E Einparkhilfe 1107
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 392F241505499C43C81-5160

1 Fault Found:
01543 - Parking Aid Warning Chime (H15)
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded

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That sounds like the classic Crankshaft position sensor failure that is common over multiple vehicles and manufacturers and often does not throw a code.

When the sender gets hot the resistance changes and the vehicle won't start.

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Log rpm while cranking.
You need something like 275 or 295 before the ECUs fire the injectors even when everything else is good.

Might be a weak or struggling starter that just doesn't have the grunt once it get all heated up.

Obviously CPS issues are also a contributor.
Log rpm while cranking.
You need something like 275 or 295 before the ECUs fire the injectors even when everything else is good.

Might be a weak or struggling starter that just doesn't have the grunt once it get all heated up.

Obviously CPS issues are also a contributor.
I’ve seen most people stating they crank at about 200 rpm. Is it supposed to be higher than that?
The VW tech bulletin I've seen references all TDIs..... Not sure I've seen a separate V10 one
Решил аналогичную проблему заменой датчика положения коленвала.
One last Rando thought. You were messing around with the ECUs if I understand correctly. I think behind #1, there's a critical ground to the body that is often not properly reattached or damaged during work. Without that ground, your injectors won't fire. Might be worth checking it and cleaning it.

Do you smell fuel when cranking?
If it was the ground....why does it start with cold engine without issue?

Remember he said it only fails to start once the engine warms up.
One last Rando thought. You were messing around with the ECUs if I understand correctly. I think behind #1, there's a critical ground to the body that is often not properly reattached or damaged during work. Without that ground, your injectors won't fire. Might be worth checking it and cleaning it.

Do you smell fuel when cranking?
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Good point... I'm just grasping at straws since he didn't mention if he smells fuel or not. As long as he has compression (he does since it runs) he only needs fuel and air... So it sounds like he's not getting fuel.... This makes me think it's injectors not firing since he's bypassed the fuel relay. The only reason why they wouldn't fire that I can come up with is insufficient Cranking rpm (which he's dismissed) and this injector ground.

Do you have any suggestions?
Took the batteries in to be tested today, both failed. Replacements will be in tomorrow. Hopefully this is the reason for slow cranking.
Also, triple checked the ECU grounding, even sanded and cleaned. No smell of fuel. Fingers crossed it’s just a battery problem. Batteries are only 1 year old, but have been abused with lots of starts and long starts during this rebuild. They would hold charge, read 12-13 volts before starting, but drop to about 10 volts while cranking. Assume they weren’t providing the CCAs needed.
From the replies, also keeping Crank Position Sender and starter as possible causes if the batteries don’t fix it. Thanks for the replies everyone.
10 bolts aren't sufficient :p
Thanks for the catch. 10 bolts are for sure not enough
Just had a similar problem with my 2009 R50, which turned out to be where the positive cable from the rear battery connected to the switch under the passenger seat no longer properly connecting to the terminal in the plug. Okay cold, but as it didn't take too long till the current in the lead caused it to heat and then the connection became worse and it became an intermittent connection, and quite hot. the lack of connection when hot caused the switch to recognise a difference in voltage, so the motor would crank once or twice then stop, and subsequent efforts did nothing. Trying to bring in the second battery by left-turning the key did nothing, a jump start under the bonnet would get it underway again.

Can't claim to have found it myself, a good auto-elec chased it down when I pointed him at the switch.

Good luck.
New batteries are in and hold 11.5v while cranking. No change in my starting problem. Cranking RPM is 189 while cold, and between 129-144 when warm, according the VCDS measuring block. New starter in my future….
I'm fairly certain that your cranking RPM is too low. I know the ECU maps typically have a cutoff point, but I don't know what it is for the v10. That being said, does it still start when cold? Maybe another v10 user can measure their cranking RPM as a point of comparison. Since you're not smelling fuel, I will stick to my suspicion that you've hit "fuel cutoff" on the starting map.
I agree too low. I would expect 200-290 would be normal
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