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Folks, I have about 75,000 miles on our used 2011 Touareg Sport V-6 and the dealer was wanting to do a flush of the transmission and brake systems. Cost of parts at the dealer was in excess of $450 and was wondering if using Amsoil transmission fluid would work ok. Dealer said the flush should have been done at 50,000 miles, so it's apparently overdue. Haven't seen any degradation in shifting yet, even in cold weather. Help would be much appreciated.
 

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Wonder what happened to sealed for life? I know a lot of guys, including me flushed before 100,000 miles. The fluid is expensive, maybe $250. Do a search. Great tutorials can be found on doing it yourself.

The dealer is full of you know what saying your overdo at 75,000.


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Yes, you ARE overdue.

"Sealed for life" was always a stupid idea.

Practical experience from lots of folk on here have come to the conclusion that 60,000 miles is probably about right, and sooner if you are towing something heavy a lot of the time.

There are conflicting reports of the mileage VW have been recommending for an ATF change since the arrival of the 8 speed box.

$450 for both a brake fluid change and fresh ATF in the autobox is probably about the mark from a dealer if you don't want to DIY.
 

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Not bad for the dealer I have 06 v8 with 74k on the odo doing the flush for the first time
but included the thermostat for the transmission i'm at a local shop looking at about $428.00 not touching he brakes....
 

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I would use VW fluid, but have it done at an independent shop.

Every 50,000 miles seems reasonable for a tranny flush.

Brake systems are supposed tone flushed every 2-3 years. Brake fluid is hydroscopic, meaning it attracts water. And you don't want any water in your brake system.
 

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The first brake fluid change is due when the car is 3 years old, the first fill having been into a brand new, clean, dry system.

Thereafter it is due every two years.

You can buy a brake fluid tester for less than 20 bucks and monitor your own fluid if you want to extend the change period.

Personally I gave never bothered and stuck with changes on time.
 

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Another vote against the sealed for life transmission fluid.

The correct name for this was sealed for the life of the transmission warranty.
 

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LOL!
 

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The VW guy that I take my cars to said that in Germany most cars are turned over before the 100,000km mark which is the defacto 'life time' for the vehicle. Aussies tend to keep their cars for much longer so the transmission fluids should be replaced on a regular basis.
After being told by a different VW specialist in Sydney (Not a dealership) that you shouldn't replace the transmission fluid, I took the car to a Auto Transmission business and they replaced the fluid but only after 1st doing a check to make sure the fluid wasn't too degraded (Apparently if it is too far gone replacing the fluid triggers major problems). Cost me around the $AUD400 mark about 5 months ago. More recently I had the Diffs and transfer case fluids changed - the mechanic said that they were very discoloured and overdue for a change.
 

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Glad to find this thread. Im catching up on the maintenance on my new to me T1 and the although Ive done trans filter and fluid changes before I prefer not to given the process. I was at the dealer the other day getting my new fob programmed and the SA told me I was due for a trans flush as I was coming up on 150k. I chuckled, knowing these are "lifetime" and asked if that included the filter. She said they flush the filter too and with tax, shop supplies etc it would be right at $250.

This almost seems to be a no brainer given the cost of the fluid alone and the fact that a flush typically replaces ALL the fluid whereas a filter swap only gets 1/2 or so

Am I missing something here ?
 

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Glad to find this thread. Im catching up on the maintenance on my new to me T1 and the although Ive done trans filter and fluid changes before I prefer not to given the process. I was at the dealer the other day getting my new fob programmed and the SA told me I was due for a trans flush as I was coming up on 150k. I chuckled, knowing these are "lifetime" and asked if that included the filter. She said they flush the filter too and with tax, shop supplies etc it would be right at $250.

This almost seems to be a no brainer given the cost of the fluid alone and the fact that a flush typically replaces ALL the fluid whereas a filter swap only gets 1/2 or so

Am I missing something here ?
I would dig a little deeper on that one. I think I spent 250 for the VW fluid to flush my tranny. Hard to believe they would do a flush at the dealer for that cost. If they do for 250 that is a great deal!
 

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After being told by a different VW specialist in Sydney (Not a dealership) that you shouldn't replace the transmission fluid, I took the car to a Auto Transmission business and they replaced the fluid but only after 1st doing a check to make sure the fluid wasn't too degraded (Apparently if it is too far gone replacing the fluid triggers major problems).
It's much better to stay on top of the maintenance and change the fluid before it gets old.

A flush can cause problems but only if there's wear and accumulated junk is filling the gaps, then the flush washes out the junk.
 

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You can always do the "2 bucket" method to exchange fluid. I've got 20K miles in since my last exchange, with no issues at all. I also started towing a 5,500 lb 21' center console boat.

I used Havoline Full Synthetic Multi-Vehicle ATF (Dexron VI) that is spec'd for both Aisin Warner AW-1 and Volkswagen/Audi Part #G 055 540 (A2). $85 for 12 qts. from Amazon Prime.

http://www.havoline.com/en-US/products/transmission-fluids/synthetic-multi-vehicle-dexron--vi--.html

There is zero magic with using only VW (dramatically overpriced) fluids.

http://www.clubtouareg.com/forums/f73/t3-transmission-flush-idea-with-wonderful-drawings-173138-12.html#post1615034
 

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I brought the T1 in yesterday for the "no-brainer" flush and again asked the service writer how they can afford to do this for $246 (including tax & shop supplies). Her answer included a bit of blowing smoke but we were both clear on exactly what was being done. I got a call from her this morning saying "the shop foreman says a flush is NOT recommended for my vehicle & they dont have the equipment to do it anyway". She fell on her sword, apologized profusely & said she had misunderstood the guidance. I happen to believe people are entitled to make innocent mistakes (once), but I told her I've been put out...45 minutes there and back x2 plus my time there plus the loss of my vehicle for a day.

I didnt threaten to sue or demand that they do what they agreed to do...I just asked that they change the fluid in the transfer case (which I had already bought and would provide) and the 2 diffs as a good will gesture. When I didnt hear back from her for a bit I called again and they said the shop was figuring out the cost at which point I said I had already paid for it with my patience. No go so I said I'll be right there to get it.

When I got there she had an audience so I pointed out that I own 3 BMWs, an Audi and the T1 (all of which they sell), that one of their former managers is a good friend who runs 3 dealerships (incl BMW & VW) & that I was also good friends with another BMW, VW, Porsche store where I had bought a 911 and all I was asking them to do, as a courtesy, was to change 3 liters of fluid.

I dont know how I, or anyone else for that matter, could have been more reasonable. Didnt matter.

As I walked out the door I highlighted the fact that they would never see me again and I'll admit I missed the T1 even just for a day :)
 

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So, I went ahead and purchased transmission and brake fluids for the Touareg and will take it down to the dealer next week. The fluids cost around $150 so it looks like my cost will probably be $200-$300 less than previously thought. Hope this works out.
 

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So, I went ahead and purchased transmission and brake fluids for the Touareg and will take it down to the dealer next week. The fluids cost around $150 so it looks like my cost will probably be $200-$300 less than previously thought. Hope this works out.
If youi didn't buy your fluids from the dealer I'd be very surprised if they will install them.
 

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I brought the T1 in yesterday for the "no-brainer" flush and again asked the service writer how they can afford to do this for $246 (including tax & shop supplies). Her answer included a bit of blowing smoke but we were both clear on exactly what was being done. I got a call from her this morning saying "the shop foreman says a flush is NOT recommended for my vehicle & they dont have the equipment to do it anyway". She fell on her sword, apologized profusely & said she had misunderstood the guidance. I happen to believe people are entitled to make innocent mistakes (once), but I told her I've been put out...45 minutes there and back x2 plus my time there plus the loss of my vehicle for a day.

I didnt threaten to sue or demand that they do what they agreed to do...I just asked that they change the fluid in the transfer case (which I had already bought and would provide) and the 2 diffs as a good will gesture. When I didnt hear back from her for a bit I called again and they said the shop was figuring out the cost at which point I said I had already paid for it with my patience. No go so I said I'll be right there to get it.

When I got there she had an audience so I pointed out that I own 3 BMWs, an Audi and the T1 (all of which they sell), that one of their former managers is a good friend who runs 3 dealerships (incl BMW & VW) & that I was also good friends with another BMW, VW, Porsche store where I had bought a 911 and all I was asking them to do, as a courtesy, was to change 3 liters of fluid.

I dont know how I, or anyone else for that matter, could have been more reasonable. Didnt matter.

As I walked out the door I highlighted the fact that they would never see me again and I'll admit I missed the T1 even just for a day :)


I thought it sounded too good to be true. What a bunch of idiots at your dealership. They have no idea what they are talking about.



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250 jesus i wish...i quoted the gasket, filter and fluid and it was well over 500...thats just parts.......i gotta do mine im way way over due
 
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