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I had the pleasure of test driving a Tesla Model S P70D last weekend! OMG incredible torque , ride and handling. 686 lbs of full on torque at 0 RPM

After such a wonderful experience I started investigating the soon to be released Model X SUV

The model X will be 0 to 60 in 3 seconds just like the Tesla model S

all wheel drive instantaneously tweaked via computerized electric motors. No mechanical linkages. No engine No transmission No Maintenance!

battery and electric motors warrantied for 8 years standard warranty with unlimited mileage

7 seater .

supposed to have tons of storage and room due to lack of engine and transmission.

Free charging for life of the vehicle at any of the hundreds of Supercharging stations nationwide.

and it will TOW. apparently it will tow up to 10,000 pounds and will come fitted with a class 3 hitch.

see video here at approx 9:40 into video:

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I came very close to buying a Touareg. Now I will wait to see what comes of the Model X. Sounds like a dream!

No maintenance
No fuel costs = free charging for life!
High performance, massive torque
class 3 hitch and up to 10,000 lb towing capacity
all electric
no servicing costs
no dealers
no haggling
super high tech
incredible all wheel drive traction controlled by computer instantaneously
auto pilot not just adaptive cruise control
 

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Unless there's a plan on how I get service in a reasonable way and timeframe, I just can't see how this would work for me. Eugene-Springfield is around 250,000 people and yet we have no Audi or Porsche dealers. So for me an Audi or Porsche as daily driver is probably not gonna work. Let alone a Tesla.

I guess I need to change my thinking.
 

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Everything sounds great, but the range is missing. How about the range with towing. Range is an important consideration. I like that I can go from my home (Lincoln, ne) and drive all the way to Denver (500 miles) without stopping to fill up. Give me a decent range (which I doubt) and I'll look at the tesla - otherwise it's all treg for me.
 

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I am a huge fan of Tesla Motors and the workings of Elon Musk. I would love to sit here and have an open discussion about the benefits of electric cars, specifically the Model S.

I will quickly say range anxiety should not be a concern in the Model S. You can charge every night and wake up with a full charge if you wanted to. On long distance trips, supercharging for 30-40 minutes can return 200 miles of real highway range. Are you really going to go 500 miles without stopping? At 200 miles, you're ready for your first stop -- if you haven't taken one already. After stretching the legs, using the restroom, and grabbing a bite to eat, the car is ready to go.

In terms of service, Tesla is still a young company, and service centers are spreading quickly. If you look up consumer surveys regarding service or customer satisfaction, Tesla is #1.

FWIW, I doubt the Model X will be able to tow anything close to 10k pounds. Additionally, even if you reserved one right now, you likely will not receive it for another year.
 

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Watch the link in the video posted in this thread. VP of Tesla states towing capacity will be almost 10,000 lbs. 9:40 into video
 

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From what I understand Tesla comes to you you when your vehicle breaks down. Gives you another tesla and picks yours up for repair
 

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From what I gather the range will be somewhere between 170 to 260 miles. Now if you decide to tow then the range will decrease greatly, I'd say by 50% to 70% making this work of art practically useless for any serious towing. They're definitely trying but the cost effective battery technology hasn't been developed yet, When that happens I'll be the first in line to buy one but for now hybrid is as far as I go for a long range vehicle. Now, this statement doesn't apply to an "in city" commuter such as Golf e which I am thinking of leasing for my to and from work commute.
 

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Nearest Supercharger is 15 miles from my house. Terrible.

There are 3 on interstate I-91 North from my town until Brattleboro VT, just 3 ... And the last one is much too far away from my destinations in northern VT. Tesla needs to fix the charging/range problem. Plus I TOW when driving to VT. I can tow 320 MILES on 20 gallons of diesel before a 10 minute refuel.

Electric is NOT for everyone.
 

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From my limited knowledge....Tesla has very good customer service as most of the "repair" items are downloadable directly to the car. I suspect maintenance is very low since it is electrically driven. The notion to be able to pull into a supercharger station and "fuel up" for free sounds enticing. Being able to charge it up every night for pennies is very enticing as well. Towing capability 10,000 lbs: pretty impressive!

Real world for me: I never tow anything closer than 75 miles. I tow my trailer up to 900 miles away. How long would that trip take me in a Tesla being stuck in traffic with the A/C running wide open? The Tesla will automatically route you to charge stations during your GPS trip. Pretty neat BUT this means it might take you longer because of re-routing to a charging station. Will you have to wait at the charging station because other people are in line in front of you? This could potentially take a couple hours to charge your vehicle waiting.

I have a friend with a Tesla S and he loves it. He uses it for his daily commute and short trips. Anything out of town...he takes his gas burning suburban.

Elon Musk's game plan is not electric cars, but manufacturing of batteries. The production of batteries is Musk's end game. The Tesla's appear to be very good engineered vehicles fitting the need of a niche market.

Comparing a TDI Touareg to a Tesla X would be like comparing bus travel across the U.S. with flying on Delta. Bus travel is certainly cheaper and better for the environment, but it will take you much longer to reach your long distance destination.

I do hold a bit of contempt that my tax dollars are funding the purchase of Tesla's by others. I understand the concept that something is needed to lower costs/further technology, but but but....

I suspect a 50 mile limit when towing 10,000 lbs. How realistic is that for most people that tow? I don't feel like stopping every 50 miles for a 20+ minute recharge.
 

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Every product sounds good before it is released.
Tesla is not going to "fix" the charging problem because it is basic science (physics and chemistry), not "technology".

Today and for the foreseeable future Tesla cars run on subsidies, not a sustainable business model.
 

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"Free charging for life of the vehicle at any of the hundreds of Supercharging stations nationwide."

Hundreds nationwide! What could possibly go wrong...
 

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It's actually entirely feasible that towing will not have a huge range penalty for the electric motors. They're very different in torque creation - I'm not entirely sure how it will work out. Have to think closer to trains in that respect.

Even so, doing 1400 mile round trips towing cars to races still seems like it won't work without like a diesel backup motor on board. Especially out in the sticks where we're racing. Never going to be supercharges there.
 

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silly me I thought SUV's were only used to drop kids to school and drive 2 miles to the coffee shop. Looks like nobody drives in the USA unless they are towing 15000 lbs for at least 500 miles, LOL.

I think Tesla should be praised for the fantastic advances they have made on the electric vehicle design. Like it not in the future most cars will be electric!

even 20 years ago here in Australia people started buying small city cars with the intention of when they needed a larger car or SUV it was just hired for that time frame.

Sure if your business is travelling huge distances on a daily basis you will need a fossil fuel burning dinosaur for a long time to come, but as more and more electrics hit the road charging will become easier and more common.

But for electrics to become more convenient than fossil fuel they will need uniform quick change battery packs. that way any EV will be able to get a freshly charged set of batteries swapped out in seconds.
 

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Y'all realize superchargers are for long distance, quick charging. You're not going to find them in metropolitan areas or at your local grocery store. They're going to be along major highways in the middle of nowhere so you can cross the country for free or take your road trip with piece of mind as they are separated by ~100-150 miles.

For within town, you should use the 120v or 240v charger in your garage, or Tesla "Destination" chargers, or any of the private charging networks like Blink. But honestly, with 200+ mile range, you shouldn't need to charge more than at your house unless you're taking a road trip.
 
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