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4.9K views 38 replies 12 participants last post by  Long Runner  
#1 ·
Hi All,

In the market for a 2013 Touareg CPO, i'm located in the NY area.
Based on the research i've done. Im conflicted on VR6 Sport (avg $33,000) vs VR6 LUX (avg $41,000). Other than the price difference.

Are there any other features thats is offered in the LUX that is a must (I know this can be very subjective).
VR6 LUX has Sport package plus:
-Memory Seats (this is the biggest reason why i want this because theres 3 drivers in the house, but i can justify the big price difference at least ($8000)).
-Power folding mirrors
-12 way power seats
-Panoramic Roof (Dont mind for this)
-Nav with back up camera (Rarely use Nav but back up camera is nice to have).

Any tips or suggestions that can help me make this decision?


Thanks in advance for the input! Cheers!
 
#2 ·
Search the inventory for CPO on VW site, Autotrader, and Cars.com.
Don't be afraid to travel a bit to get it, lots of options within two hours.
 
#4 ·
The memory seats are almost mandatory if you have family members sharing the car regularly. The system in Touareg works nicely. Includes side mirror positions.

The panorama roof is better than you might guess, especially if you have children and don't want to turn them into zombies by putting screens in front of their faces every time you travel. Our son "reaches up to pull down clouds and eats them".

We don't use the nav much either. Was a shame to have to pay for it in my opinion.

Jason
 
#6 ·
I refused to pay for the sunroof, and the Nav, twice, in 2012 and 2013. Still have both of them. Sadly, for 2014, Nav is mandatory. I've never needed it in the past 40 years of driving, why would I need it now? Besides, if you can afford a Touareg, you probably already own a smart phone with Google Maps with Voice Navigation. Redundancy, if you ask me. Or spend the $100 to 150 for a Garmin Nuvi, or whatever floats your boat.
 
#5 ·
I had to look at it this way;

I plan on keeping this truck for a while, a long while. I traded in two excellent, paid-off vehicles for it. The last thing I wanted was any sort of regret like, "I wish I had gotten the Lux/Exec . . . " so I went with the Exec.

Thankfully I had/have the money to spend on the extra's and I don't regret it for one single second as it is only money. Now, for those that don't have the budget, get the Sport and be happy but if you do have the loot, spend it and be happy.
The little extras are nice in the long-run.
 
#13 ·
Adding memory seats will be out on cost even if you can get all the bits together.

I'd only consider a Tdi unless fuel costs are irrelevant for you, or you do a low annual mileage, or you do very short commutes - diesels don't like that.

Get a long term warranty too.

Oh, and by the way, a "Tig" is a Tiguan not a Touareg!
 
#16 ·
Well done!
 
#18 ·
I faced a similar dilemma with Lux v Exec based on the heated steering wheel.
It's my only regret settling on the Lux.

I drive my 2013 99% of the time and appreciate the memory seats that 1% when someone else drives it.


... 10 minutes from being reunited with 2004 which has the memory seats and heated wheel :eek:
 
#19 ·
Tips for buying a used Touareg.

1. There are not a lot of them out there.

2. Because there are not a lot of them out there, you pretty much get what you get when looking for a used one. Matter of fact, if you are buying new, it can be extremely difficult and time consuming to get what you want, exactly, even when buying brand new. You pretty much have to either get lucky, or plan to travel a long ways. My 2012 took me on a trip to Las Vegas to get what I wanted, and my 2013 took me on a trip to Salt Lake City to get what I wanted. YMMV, but you get far less choices, or you wait a long time to get exactly what you want used, in a Touareg, in the USA.

3. Buying used somewhat puts you in the position of beggars can't be choosers. Just the nature of sales of used Touaregs, unless you have the time and the money to hunt one down and pursue it.

For me, nothing turns me off faster for the sale of a used car from a private party than a title with a lien still on it. Huge problems, seller usually is upside down on the loan and the mileage on the vehicle is high, plus time restraints to get the paperwork all cleaned up. Waste of their time, waste of my time. The excess mileage took the value out of the car, and it's highly probable that they paid too much for the car up front in the first place, and they can't afford cash flow wise to take the hit on the loss.

Good luck with your purchase, it take lots of perserverance to both buy and sell a Touareg. V6's will take a far greater hit in depreciation than a TDI. Folks need to understand cars depreciate based on mileage and on age. Mileage wears them out, age makes rubber and plastic rot out, crack and get brittle, needing expensive replacement. VW designs their cars to have an 8 year useful life... most cars in Germany need to be off the road by year 9.

My Memory seats involve a 6 second hold of one button to the rear for me, and a 1 second hold for the backrest position. I store that in my "memory" and it works just fine, thank you.
 
#22 ·
Just an update for those who helped.
Just put an deposit for 2013 VR6 LUX 13,xxx miles for $37,000.

I test drove it. Drove up to 80 miles per hour to test the notorious "shaking steering wheel" problem. There's just a ever so slightly vibration, i dont know if this is normal. I was going 80 mph and the road was flat but its never flat to the point that you wont notice it.

The vehicle had Good Year Eagle tires. I made sure that they will check the alignment before i finalize things. I had mentioned to the sales rep that VWOA remedied the problem by replacing the tires with a set of Michelin Latitude tours.

Also, i really wanted the tow hitch installed as a deal maker but the they they checked with the service manager at service department. Service Manager said if any part is installed that didnt come from VW. The warranty will be void. Anyone have comments on this?

Thanks
 
#23 ·
Suggestion, as a 2x new car touareg buyer, of T3's. Find what you want, with the hitch in place already, from the factory. Not worth it to have them install it after the fact cost prohibitive.


If you can live without the hitch, add 4 psi to each tire with your pressure gauge, and retest at 80 mph and see if the shakes you observed are gone. 2011 on T3 Touaregs are EXTREMELY sensitive to variations and incorrect tire pressures. Your job is to find the sweet spot for tire pressure and maintain it, religiously, through seasonal temperature . Luxes and Exec models with 19 and 20" wheels are the problematic versions, the Sport model with 18" wheels rarely if ever have the steering wheel shudders.
 
#25 ·
Long time VW TDI owner here... Currently own a 2012 Sport TDI and a 2013 Sport TDI, GF drives the second one. The more bells and whistles you add to any VW, the more problematic that they become, and the higher the repair bills, without fail. So I buy them as close to stripped as I can, within reason. Added the hitch and cable myself to the 2013, would not do it again, would buy with hitch installed at the factory, not worth the trouble, time and hassle. 19" and 20" tires wear out faster and are stupidly expensive to replace and balance, IMHO. I am careful with a buck, wasting them on tires too soon that are problematic is not my idea of time well spent doing R&R.

YMMV.
 
#29 ·
Yes, there is a video posted somewhere on here.

You'll need to use the Search facility.

If you have the slightest of slight doubts about the car, walk away.
 
#31 ·
Up the air pressure first. 4 psi per tire, cold, over stated on door jamb sticker on drivers side first . 37 psi ront, 43 psi rear. Then re test drive. There are multiple solutions to the shake. 18 " wheels can be a possibility too.
 
#32 ·
I'll agree with Niner on two things for sure;

1. Definitely get the VW factory hitch and have them install it and all the wiring that is needed, it is worth the money. I'm going to be towing at least 7,000 lbs with my T3 and am glad I got the factory hitch package already on the truck.

2. Up the air pressure. I have been running at 38F/41R and also set all my lugnuts at 133 psi and I have been having no vibration or anything on my 20" Pikes Peak wheels with the OEM Goodyear LS2 tires. It makes me so happy when I run at a constant 79-85 on the highways and get nothing but nice-ness. I do notice some parts of some highways where I will get some vibration but it is due to the road surface and not the truck in any way.
 
#37 ·
Thanks for all your advice. I picked up the MY13 LUX. The car is amazing!
There is a very very slight shake north of 75MPH. The price was at least $3500 below market and theres still warranty on the vehicle. So i if cant fix it then i'll bring it in and let VW take care of it.

I tried adjusting the tire presssure today. I didnt get to test drive it after readjusting the levels. I will hopefully tomorrow.
I would like to know if you guys go by the pressure from the Touareg or your own air reading instruments?

I use a pencil style air gauge and got 37 PSI for fronts and 40 PSI for Rear.
The vehicle reads 38 PSI front and 42 PSI Rear (all cold).


Thanks!
 
#38 ·
Those pencil style gauges are pretty unreliable when you are looking to be exact or specific. A decent digital readout unit will yield a more accurate pressure number. And yes, always check the pressure cold. The wheel sensors are within 1/2# of pressure vs the manual gauge on my vehicle. Of course the vehicle must round up or down to the next full number where the manual gauge show 1/2 units. So I'd say it's pretty close.