New here, 2014 TDI execline R

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zambony

Discussion Starter · Oct 20, 2020 (Edited)

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Hi all, new here.
Here is the new to me Touareg 2014 TDI Execline with R line. Car is in very good condition and was completely stock when I got it. I live in Montreal

rear seats when I got it, now has 3 kid seats and monster mats.

First thing I did is to remove the original “fabric” mats with OEM monster mats front, rear and trunk.
Second thing was a Malone Stage 2 tune (keeping emission stuff). Next was the Start & stop button renewal, and when looking on how to do it I found the auto-hold function; so I just ordered the button.
I see some rockchip on the rocker, so I got mudgards for all 4 corners. Not sure yet if I will install the rear one as they are quite big and do not protect anything.

Coming next
H & R springs
20in wheels, maybe 15mm spacers. I don't think I would go over 20 as I like the tire sidewall on such vehicle.
Disable video in motion for the entertainment of the 3 kids on the back seat on longer haul
Gear display

I would like more power, but I don’t think the investment would be wise for the power gain (new turbo). I would like more compression braking, so most likely transmission tune eventually.

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New2Tregs

· #201 · Dec 19, 2020

You'll get a fault for adaptive headlights if you have a problem with one of the fog lamps because with adaptive headlights it uses the fog lamps when turning corners, or signaling to do so. They are all tied in. I disable all that with VCDS, except adaptive headlights.

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TurboABA

· #202 · Dec 19, 2020

I could be retarded, but why are you turning on your fogs if you know you have a defective one? And even if you can somehow justify that, why are you surprised that you're getting errors\faults reported when you already know you have a failed component?

volkswagens-for-life

· #203 · Dec 19, 2020

Ah ok I got you. Do you know what brand bulbs were put in? Are they traditional halogen?

zambony

Discussion Starter · #204 · Dec 20, 2020

New2Tregs said:
You'll get a fault for adaptive headlights if you have a problem with one of the fog lamps because with adaptive headlights it uses the fog lamps when turning corners, or signaling to do so. They are all tied in. I disable all that with VCDS, except adaptive headlights.

Ha, makes sense thanks a lot!! for that. This is what I was looking for. So it might just be a defective fog/wire/connector

TurboABA said:
I could be retarded, but why are you turning on your fogs if you know you have a defective one? And even if you can somehow justify that, why are you surprised that you're getting errors\faults reported when you already know you have a failed component?

I am trying to see if I have one or more component failure. Since the fogs were new (3months old), I was wondering if some module or something that drives both component (fog and headlight) could cause the issue and not simply the fog. Having a headline adaptive fault, while seeing the headlight working properly, puzzled me. I am not yet familiar with all those systems

By how you write, I have the impression you are taking everyone else for dumb. I highly recommend this book, I'm sure you will appreciate.

volkswagens-for-life said:
Ah ok I got you. Do you know what brand bulbs were put in? Are they traditional halogen?

Whole fogs were replaced by the previous owner, not bulb. Oem VW

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zambony

Discussion Starter · #205 · Dec 30, 2020

Very mixed feeling post.

I was under the impression that Bilstein only offers 3 shocks models (B4, B4S, B6) and not coilover. After a few post/exchanges in the handling thread I realized that Bilstein B12 (B8 struts with Eibach pro springs) ARE indeed available. I rushed to try to cancel my order from rockauto, clicked cancel on the first item (success) on my phone and THEN realise the other 3 struts were already shipped with the carrier. So, I just contacted them again to ask the carrier to return them to sender and hopefully only pay for shipping… and it is not possible.

Because there are quite significant savings shipping stuff in US rather than Canada, I still get some of my stuff on the other side of the border and a friend brings them over; so, I cannot simply refuse the package.

I understand the Bilstein B6/H & R combo isn’t bad; but the B12 is purposely made for lowered suspension. The B8 struts are a bit shorter and valve differently because of the reduced suspension travel. I would expect the B6 be a little bouncier than B8. Not the end of the world, especially since this is not a track car; but the B12 combo is about the same price; and for the same money, it will be better.

Arghhh
So excited about new suspension, disappointed that it won’t be the best combo for the same money.

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TurboABA

· #206 · Dec 30, 2020

I'm too busy trying to read your suggested books to follow along with all your adventures, but you do realise that you are starting off with an R line which means you already have sport suspension right? I can't recall off the top of my head how much lower/stiffer it is compared to the rest of us, but hopefully you've already factored that into your shopping spree.

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volkswagens-for-life

· #207 · Dec 30, 2020

zambony said:
Very mixed feeling post.

I was under the impression that Bilstein only offers 3 shocks models (B4, B4S, B6) and not coilover. After a few post/exchanges in the handling thread I realized that Bilstein B12 (B8 struts with Eibach pro springs) ARE indeed available. I rushed to try to cancel my order from rockauto, clicked cancel on the first item (success) on my phone and THEN realise the other 3 struts were already shipped with the carrier. So, I just contacted them again to ask the carrier to return them to sender and hopefully only pay for shipping… and it is not possible.

Because there are quite significant savings shipping stuff in US rather than Canada, I still get some of my stuff on the other side of the border and a friend brings them over; so, I cannot simply refuse the package.

I understand the Bilstein B6/H & R combo isn’t bad; but the B12 is purposely made for lowered suspension. The B8 struts are a bit shorter and valve differently because of the reduced suspension travel. I would expect the B6 be a little bouncier than B8. Not the end of the world, especially since this is not a track car; but the B12 combo is about the same price; and for the same money, it will be better.

Arghhh
So excited about new suspension, disappointed that it won’t be the best combo for the same money.

Ahh bummer that you can't cancel. I'm sure you'll be happy with the b6 and h&r setup. No it won't be as absolute as the b12 kit but I'm sure you'll still love it. Give us a review after a few days driving on it!

TurboABA said:
I'm too busy trying to read your suggested books to follow along with all your adventures, but you do realise that you are starting off with an R line which means you already have sport suspension right? I can't recall off the top of my head how much lower/stiffer it is compared to the rest of us, but hopefully you've already factored that into your shopping spree.

The r line does indeed have different springs but I cannot find a single piece of literature anywhere on the planet that discusses spring rates or shock valving. Do you happen to have that information?

TurboABA

· #208 · Dec 30, 2020

volkswagens-for-life said:
Do you happen to have that information?

Negative. I only looked into it briefly as I wanted an R due to the aesthetic ground effects, but as soon as I saw that it would be both lower and stiffer, it was a hard pass for me so I tapped out. I do recall reading that the specifics were some huge VW secret apparently.

Brendanm

· #209 · Dec 30, 2020

volkswagens-for-life said:
Ahh bummer that you can't cancel. I'm sure you'll be happy with the b6 and h&r setup. No it won't be as absolute as the b12 kit but I'm sure you'll still love it. Give us a review after a few days driving on it!

The r line does indeed have different springs but I cannot find a single piece of literature anywhere on the planet that discusses spring rates or shock valving. Do you happen to have that information?

R line shocks are a different part number.

zambony

Discussion Starter · #210 · Dec 30, 2020

I can see it doesn't get better for me today eh!

I don't mind the spending, but what bugs me is that I won't reach the goal to go 1.4in lower than what I am currently...
The truck doesn't "dive" when I steer, and there is no problem with my actual suspension... I only wanted to be a bit lower. This starts to sound more and more like wasted cash.

on the plus side, I guess my old parts are still worth something.

TheChunknorris

· #211 · Dec 30, 2020

TurboABA said:
Negative. I only looked into it briefly as I wanted an R due to the aesthetic ground effects, but as soon as I saw that it would be both lower and stiffer, it was a hard pass for me so I tapped out. I do recall reading that the specifics were some huge VW secret apparently.

I know this is as unscientific as hell but I did park next to a RLine in a parking garage and the H&R set up with stock shocks was a hair lower than the OEM RLine.

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zambony

Discussion Starter · #212 · Dec 30, 2020

all hopes are not lost in cancelling my order. I would most likely loose shipping for the struts, but this is a price I am more than willing to pay considering this new found information...

stay tuned!

Springs are cancelled
1 of 4 strut cancelled
3 struts in 2 packages on their way. If nobody opens the door OR refuse the package, I am saved.

volkswagens-for-life

· #213 · Dec 30, 2020

TurboABA said:
Negative. I only looked into it briefly as I wanted an R due to the aesthetic ground effects, but as soon as I saw that it would be both lower and stiffer, it was a hard pass for me so I tapped out. I do recall reading that the specifics were some huge VW secret apparently.

Interesting that Volkswagen kept spring rate information secret. That would explain why literally NO LITERATURE, even the damn service and parts dept. at the dealer, can give me any information. It's easy enough to figure out ratings of a steel coil, you just count the coil number and spacing.. but I dont have access to one of every coil for every suspension option, ha.

Brendanm said:
R line shocks are a different part number.

Correcto, but nobody seems to know exactly what the rated differences are. Hybrids have a different pn# too

zambony said:
I can see it doesn't get better for me today eh!

I don't mind the spending, but what bugs me is that I won't reach the goal to go 1.4in lower than what I am currently...
The truck doesn't "dive" when I steer, and there is no problem with my actual suspension... I only wanted to be a bit lower. This starts to sound more and more like wasted cash.

on the plus side, I guess my old parts are still worth something.

I'm pretty sure you'll still get your drop using the h&r setup, why do you think otherwise? Those b6 shocks are going to enhance your handing and make your ride much more sporty too
Believe it or not your car does dive under braking; European auto manufacturers have great suspension systems so it isn't noticed much, but it does happen

zambony

Discussion Starter · #214 · Dec 30, 2020

I understand it dive a bit, but it doesn't feel floating. I am not giving up suspension upgrade, I just want to do it properly.

I have a spring device at work that make pretty graph (force vs displacement), I work something out once the oem setup is off.

I just measure and the tire to fender gap is 4.25in all around.

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volkswagens-for-life

· #215 · Dec 30, 2020

Ohh gotcha! Keep us posted, very excited to hear of your suspension journey. Are you gonna end up w/ the b12 pro-kit then?

zambony

Discussion Starter · #216 · Dec 30, 2020

B12 is the plan indeed. Just need to complete the return with rockauto first to ensure not to get parts in double. So after Jan 9th at the soonest (to order); if everything goes as planned.

can you measure your tire to fender gap? I have 4 1/4in all around

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TurboABA

· #217 · Dec 30, 2020

Be careful.... many users' O/A wheel diameter will differ based on tire size and spec.... take center of wheel to fender measurements instead if you want it to mean anything.

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volkswagens-for-life

· #218 · Dec 30, 2020 (Edited)

zambony said:
B12 is the plan indeed. Just need to complete the return with rockauto first to ensure not to get parts in double. So after Jan 9th at the soonest (to order); if everything goes as planned.

can you measure your tire to fender gap? I have 4 1/4in all around

Sick!! Looking forward to that.

Just took measurements - fronts from the center of the fender liner to tires are about 4.5"
Rears from center of fender liner to tires is like 5.75" or so

Factory size 19's and factory dimension tires

TheChunknorris

· #219 · Dec 30, 2020

zambony said:
B12 is the plan indeed. Just need to complete the return with rockauto first to ensure not to get parts in double. So after Jan 9th at the soonest (to order); if everything goes as planned.

can you measure your tire to fender gap? I have 4 1/4in all around

So just to confirm, the 2004-2010 B12s work on the 2015+?

volkswagens-for-life

· #220 · Dec 30, 2020

TheChunknorris said:
So just to confirm, the 2004-2010 B12s work on the 2015+?

Assuming you do not have air suspension, yes you can get the B12 pro-kit for the 2004-2010 here:

www.ecstuning.com

B12 Pro Cup Kit

Approximate Lowering front: 30mm, rear: 30mm

www.ecstuning.com

Keep in mind, they are DIFFERENT part numbers 2004-2010 vs 2011+

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